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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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 Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 04:56:41
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He's not the top dog. Though probably no mortal in Toril knows it, the Luminous Being (Ao's master) is.
Okay, yes, there is someone above him. But for entities within Realmspace, Ao is the top dog, by a mile. So there's no need for him to bother with an aspect, especially since he doesn't need worship. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 06:22:00
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He's not the top dog. Though probably no mortal in Toril knows it, the Luminous Being (Ao's master) is.
So far as we know, the Luminous Being has almost nothing to do with Realmspace. It's either beneath his/her/it's notice, or other super-divine matters occupy so much of the Being's time, that responsibility for Realmspace is left solely in the hands of Ao.
Thus, Ao is the top dog as far as mortal and divine matters are concerned within Realmspace. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 06:54:06
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dennis
He's not the top dog. Though probably no mortal in Toril knows it, the Luminous Being (Ao's master) is.
Okay, yes, there is someone above him. But for entities within Realmspace, Ao is the top dog, by a mile. So there's no need for him to bother with an aspect, especially since he doesn't need worship.
No, he doesn't need it. But he may have need of some time to be alone, to go somewhere outside his own crystal spehere---to dine and have a chat with his fellow overgods somewhere, sometime in the vast and endless multiverse. Since it's hard to predict how an overgod thinks, we can only speculate.
His aspects take care of his dominion while he's away; and vice-versa.
Or the Luminous Being himself created Ao's aspects as failsafe in the event some calamity befalls Ao. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 08:02:27
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dennis
He's not the top dog. Though probably no mortal in Toril knows it, the Luminous Being (Ao's master) is.
Okay, yes, there is someone above him. But for entities within Realmspace, Ao is the top dog, by a mile. So there's no need for him to bother with an aspect, especially since he doesn't need worship.
No, he doesn't need it. But he may have need of some time to be alone, to go somewhere outside his own crystal spehere---to dine and have a chat with his fellow overgods somewhere, sometime in the vast and endless multiverse. Since it's hard to predict how an overgod thinks, we can only speculate.
But we've been told that Ao can interact with whom/whatever is above him and still monitor the Realms. Why would he need to leave an aspect?
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His aspects take care of his dominion while he's away; and vice-versa.
This is a more acceptable possibility. But I don't see the need for an aspect, personally. Maybe just a divine echo of Ao's being.
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Or the Luminous Being himself created Ao's aspects as failsafe in the event some calamity befalls Ao.
In that instance, I would assume that the Luminous Being wouldn't need to create an aspect of Ao, because he/she/it can simply watch the sphere of Realmspace him/her/itself. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 08:14:33
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Sorry, Sage, I don't have the patience to cut the quote in three parts, so I'd address it with this:
To your 1st Point: Because whatever it is he needs to do requires his full, undivided attention.
To the 2nd: More or less the same above.
To the 3rd: Because he, too, might need to 'oversee' something else far more important than Ao's crystal sphere, and could not be bothered by anything else. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 26 Apr 2012 : 14:36:58
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To your 1st Point: Because whatever it is he needs to do requires his full, undivided attention.
He's a creator god of an entire crystal sphere. I would think such "common" notion as "attention" shouldn't apply to transcendental beings like Ao.
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To the 3rd: Because he, too, might need to 'oversee' something else far more important than Ao's crystal sphere, and could not be bothered by anything else.
Again, this is pretty much answered by what I just said above. I think you're assigning "mortal" traits to beings that should otherwise be, undefinable. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 31 May 2012 : 06:37:09
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Dennis
To your 1st Point: Because whatever it is he needs to do requires his full, undivided attention.
He's a creator god of an entire crystal sphere. I would think such "common" notion as "attention" shouldn't apply to transcendental beings like Ao.
That would make him omniscient and omnipresent. Personally, I refuse to believe such a being (even in a fictional realm) exists. It takes away the fun. Who would want to see someone who knows everything and is present everywhere? |
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What do you think? Ao vs. Immanence
