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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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 Posted - 27 Feb 2012 : 04:05:56
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Originally posted by Jakk
Re: topic: I like leaving the rankings as is, perhaps with the addition of an earlier title change at 5000 posts... not to replace the existing unique title at 10000, but 8000 posts is a long time to go without a promotion, Sage.  I would make the 5000+ title "Exarch of Oghma" (with the approval of those already in the 5000-9999 bracket, of course). Just an idea I had; thought I should mention it before forgetting it.
It's a sound idea.
But as it stands, and as we've stated before, the ranking progression of Candlekeep follows what Ed outlined in his "Introduction to Candlekeep." An 'Exarch of Oghma' rank would fall outside that established ranking progression, so unless Ed himself introduces some new rank in that position, it will likely have to stay as is. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Feb 2012 : 04:51:34
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Hmm, more stars without name change might be possible, depending on how close name level associated with the stars. Also maybe possible to change color of stars based on post count.
Maybe something like Great reader on reaching 5,000 the stars turn from yellow to blue?
Not sure if coding flexible enough for the idea, however might be something to consider. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 27 Feb 2012 : 18:19:24
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 00:32:59
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dennis
I see a connection of the Great Ones of Kelewan to the title of Great Reader. A Great One is a magician who is beyond the laws of the land, and is therefore not constrained by it. A Great Reader (IMO) is someone who's read and known things that are beyond what other loremasters have learned, and thus is not limited by any subjects.
Yes, but our Great Readers are still subject to the law of the land -- the Code of Conduct. 
Side note: It took me a while to figure out that "Ichandar, ninety-one times Emperor!" meant he was the 91st Emperor, and not Ichandar XCI. 
Ichandar? Hmm...For some reason I forgot that name. Was he the Emperor that Miranda 'punched'? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 04:29:17
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dennis
I see a connection of the Great Ones of Kelewan to the title of Great Reader. A Great One is a magician who is beyond the laws of the land, and is therefore not constrained by it. A Great Reader (IMO) is someone who's read and known things that are beyond what other loremasters have learned, and thus is not limited by any subjects.
Yes, but our Great Readers are still subject to the law of the land -- the Code of Conduct.
Side note: It took me a while to figure out that "Ichandar, ninety-one times Emperor!" meant he was the 91st Emperor, and not Ichandar XCI.
Ichandar? Hmm...For some reason I forgot that name. Was he the Emperor that Miranda 'punched'?
He was Emperor of Tsuranuanni during the Riftwar Saga. He was the one who hung the Warlord Almecho, who met with King Lyam in the betrayed peace, and who was killed during the process of Mara revamping Tsurani politics.
We've only had a few Emperors named, but I'm not recalling Miranda punching one... Of course, I'm not as familiar with the later books as I am with the earlier ones. |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 19:31:21
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Jakk
Re: topic: I like leaving the rankings as is, perhaps with the addition of an earlier title change at 5000 posts... not to replace the existing unique title at 10000, but 8000 posts is a long time to go without a promotion, Sage. I would make the 5000+ title "Exarch of Oghma" (with the approval of those already in the 5000-9999 bracket, of course). Just an idea I had; thought I should mention it before forgetting it.
It's a sound idea.
But as it stands, and as we've stated before, the ranking progression of Candlekeep follows what Ed outlined in his "Introduction to Candlekeep." An 'Exarch of Oghma' rank would fall outside that established ranking progression, so unless Ed himself introduces some new rank in that position, it will likely have to stay as is.
I agree that it's outside the established progression... but it's not disrupting the established progression, and by your logic, any title above "Great Reader" would be suspect... or so my reasoning tells me. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Feb 2012 : 20:26:02
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Jakk maybe you can look at this way, First Reader is restricted to Ed for all reasonable interpretation, IAE there can only be one. Some of the Great Readers, due to their involvement do get unique names. Every special name is for Great Reader, well known, or scribes (Novel, design) that have made special contribution. Big Al is the Keeper, if I recall that title correctly.
Changing stars (if possible) I think might be a better way to go then inventing a new title. |
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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2012 : 23:36:56
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Dennis
I see a connection of the Great Ones of Kelewan to the title of Great Reader. A Great One is a magician who is beyond the laws of the land, and is therefore not constrained by it. A Great Reader (IMO) is someone who's read and known things that are beyond what other loremasters have learned, and thus is not limited by any subjects.
Yes, but our Great Readers are still subject to the law of the land -- the Code of Conduct.
Side note: It took me a while to figure out that "Ichandar, ninety-one times Emperor!" meant he was the 91st Emperor, and not Ichandar XCI.
Ichandar? Hmm...For some reason I forgot that name. Was he the Emperor that Miranda 'punched'?
He was Emperor of Tsuranuanni during the Riftwar Saga. He was the one who hung the Warlord Almecho, who met with King Lyam in the betrayed peace, and who was killed during the process of Mara revamping Tsurani politics.
We've only had a few Emperors named, but I'm not recalling Miranda punching one... Of course, I'm not as familiar with the later books as I am with the earlier ones.
I see. I can remember only a very few Tsunnari names, Hochopepa being the foremost, and that's only because his name sounds like 'something so green I can't say its English term here.'
Anyway, no, that's not the Emperor I was referring to. The one that Miranda punched, or rather put to sleep, was the young emperor during the attack of the Dreadlord in the Darkwar Saga. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 : 23:39:19
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Changing stars (if possible) I think might be a better way to go then inventing a new title.
Good point.
I personally would like to see a different star color (and/or number) when a Great Reader reaches 10,000 posts and gets a New, Personalized Title. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 03 Mar 2012 : 17:30:10
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| The stars are already colour-coded to differentiate positions within the keep, no? Agreed, the introduction of a new colour in to distinguish the most distinguished scribes - such as the Realms Authors and Game Designers and personages like the Lady Herald - wouldn't be remiss. |
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Edited by - Ayrik on 03 Mar 2012 17:30:40 |
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