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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 22 Jan 2012 :  13:20:40  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
The Dwarven god of thieves and rogues. Anybody?? I'm going to make a specialized Cleric PrC for this.

Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 22 Jan 2012 :  13:33:37  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Try this link. Vergadain does indeed look after dwarven rogues, thugh his main focus is on trade and merchants.
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Copper Elven Vampire
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Posted - 22 Jan 2012 :  13:57:35  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice... now help me make a 3.5ED version of a cleric/rogue
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 22 Jan 2012 :  16:15:46  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd take with his 2E specialty priest, and use that as a starting point or at least for inspiration.

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Fellfire
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Posted - 22 Jan 2012 :  20:11:01  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You may find this link helpful.

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The Sage
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Posted - 23 Jan 2012 :  01:41:11  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'd take with his 2E specialty priest, and use that as a starting point or at least for inspiration.

That would be my reading as well. It's probably the easiest solution anyway.

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Markustay
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  16:19:08  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Never liked the idea of combining a trade-deity with thievery, especially for the dwarves. I know it's fitting (for humans), but still... it just rubs me the wrong way.

As for what I'd use, I 3rd Wooly's suggestion.

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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 28 Jan 2012 :  01:53:46  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Been working on such myself. Mostly fleshing out a few Spell-Like Abilities, namely what to substitute for the following, with my ideas in parentheses:
- Weighty Chest (Force Chest, maybe?)
- Frisky Chest (no idea)
- Wyvern Watch (Arcane Eye or Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound, perhaps?)
- Fool's Gold (no idea)
- Detect Enemies (no idea)
- Taunt (no idea)
- Know Customs (no idea)
- Detect Lie and Undetectable Lie (no ideas)

Galuf's Baldur's Gate NPC stats: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8823
Galuf's 3.5 Ed. Cleric Domains: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14036
Galuf's Homebrew 4th Edition Races: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13787
Galuf's Homebrew Specialty Priest PrCs: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14353
Galuf's Forgotten Realms Heralds and Allies thread: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8766

Edited by - Galuf the Dwarf on 28 Jan 2012 03:57:32
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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 29 Jan 2012 :  00:42:47  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just an additional note, the only 2nd Ed sourcebooks I have are the deity books, Cormanthor, and the core D&D Unearthed Arcana. The 2nd-3rd Ed conversion PDF also seems to give me issues, partially due to Adobe Reader not liking my computer, for some reason.

Galuf's Baldur's Gate NPC stats: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8823
Galuf's 3.5 Ed. Cleric Domains: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14036
Galuf's Homebrew 4th Edition Races: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13787
Galuf's Homebrew Specialty Priest PrCs: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14353
Galuf's Forgotten Realms Heralds and Allies thread: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8766
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The Sage
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Posted - 29 Jan 2012 :  01:17:08  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The version of Adobe Reader might be incompatible with the computer's operating system. Or, failing that, you might just need to update your version of Reader.

Could you provide me with the version number of the software and your current operating system?

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Edited by - The Sage on 29 Jan 2012 01:18:11
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Galuf the Dwarf
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USA
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Posted - 29 Jan 2012 :  03:04:32  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

The version of Adobe Reader might be incompatible with the computer's operating system. Or, failing that, you might just need to update your version of Reader.

Could you provide me with the version number of the software and your current operating system?




Never mind. I forgot I have Foxit Reader on this computer.

Edit: At the same time, the only spell from the list I mentioned that I found a definitive remake of is "Detect Lie," which is now known as Discern Lies. I'm thinking I'll substitute "Undetectable Lie" with Suggestion, and that may probably work just as well. The other old spells I'm still struggling with.

Galuf's Baldur's Gate NPC stats: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8823
Galuf's 3.5 Ed. Cleric Domains: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14036
Galuf's Homebrew 4th Edition Races: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13787
Galuf's Homebrew Specialty Priest PrCs: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14353
Galuf's Forgotten Realms Heralds and Allies thread: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8766

Edited by - Galuf the Dwarf on 29 Jan 2012 03:06:28
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