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Sith Ari
Acolyte
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 Posted - 25 Oct 2011 : 17:18:20
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This a spell my mage(5w/10inc) is trying to create after studing lore he found on magical shield effects(i have craft cont spell & spell mantle feats)
Haerlan's Mantle Attack
school: ?
lvl:7
casting time:1 st action
duration: inst
save:no
sr:no
target: 1 abjuration spell affecting the caster of lvl 6+ min.
First of all in order this spell to have any effect the caster must have opperating at him a shield(?) like abjuration spell of atleast 6th lvl.when cast this spell siphons the energy of the targeted spell giving the caster the ability to cast another spell he has memorised without loosing the spell slot it occupies as long as the second spell
is of two lvl lower than the spell being siphoned.
material comp:need help...
what do you think...
thanx in advance...
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Sith Ari
Acolyte
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Posted - 25 Oct 2011 : 17:21:12
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New here so I am not sure if this is the correct place.If not please move it where it should be.
THANX
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2011 : 18:08:50
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So, judging by it's description, it makes casting lower level shield-like spells without expending their spell slot. Hmmm, not too bad, though I think it might work better as a Feat or at the very least, making it so the 2nd shield-like spells doesn't use a spell slot and is cast as a Minor Action. So something like this:
Haerlan's Mantle Attack
Abjuration
Level: Sor/Wiz 7
Components: V, S, F
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Personal
Target: One Abjuration spell affecting you
Duration: 1 round/level
A quick jesture and word magnifies the abjuration spell effecting you with a low humming sound, empowering your future protective spells.
In order for this spell to have any effect, the caster must have opperating on him or herself an Abjuration spell of at least 4th level. When this spell is cast, it siphons the energy of the targeted spell and gives the caster the ability to cast another Abjuration spell he or she has memorised without loosing the occupying spell slot. This second spell must be at least two levels lower than the targeted spell. In addition, abjuration spells cast in this way have a casting time reduced to a swift action (if their casting time is normally one standard action).
Material Focus
A small silver or mithral disc in the shape of a shield.
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Edited by - Diffan on 25 Oct 2011 18:15:45 |
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Farrel
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
239 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2011 : 18:27:11
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Excellent stuff!
I'm pinching that, nice work Diffan  |
Edited by - Farrel on 25 Oct 2011 18:38:11 |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2011 : 21:07:09
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| Thanks. I hope it's what Sith Ari was looking for. I figured since it plays off an already cast spell, focuses on one school, and is 7th level the benefits wouldn't be too broken. So a wizard with Fire Shield on could cast this spell and then Shield, Protection from Arrows, Resist Energy etc. in the same round without sacrificing their spell slot. Figured it was kinda neat. |
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Seethyr
Master of Realmslore
USA
1249 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2011 : 22:56:06
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Could a spell like this be created for every spell school? Would the equivalents be of the new school or would they all be abjurations?
In other words, could you siphon an illusion of your own creation to cast a lower level one (for example)? |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2011 : 01:42:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Diffan
So, judging by it's description, it makes casting lower level shield-like spells without expending their spell slot. Hmmm, not too bad, though I think it might work better as a Feat or at the very least, making it so the 2nd shield-like spells doesn't use a spell slot and is cast as a Minor Action. So something like this:
Haerlan's Mantle Attack
Abjuration
Level: Sor/Wiz 7
Components: V, S, F
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Personal
Target: One Abjuration spell affecting you
Duration: 1 round/level
A quick jesture and word magnifies the abjuration spell effecting you with a low humming sound, empowering your future protective spells.
In order for this spell to have any effect, the caster must have opperating on him or herself an Abjuration spell of at least 4th level. When this spell is cast, it siphons the energy of the targeted spell and gives the caster the ability to cast another Abjuration spell he or she has memorised without loosing the occupying spell slot. This second spell must be at least two levels lower than the targeted spell. In addition, abjuration spells cast in this way have a casting time reduced to a swift action (if their casting time is normally one standard action).
Material Focus
A small silver or mithral disc in the shape of a shield.
Actually, I'm thinking he meant it to be more duelist. You don't give up YOUR shielding spell. You work to dispel/absorb another mage's shielding spell and in turn use that returning energy to empower another spell of your own. So, lets say you cast some 6th lvl spell, it knocks down the other mages say "globe of invulnerability" and you turn it into say a "death armor" or a "improved mage armor" spell since you have that memorized, but you don't actually expend your own spell. Anyway, that's the base idea I'd go with, but obviously, it'd need some more development. Wouldn't be a bad idea and there's been similar in the past. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2011 : 14:19:37
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quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas
Actually, I'm thinking he meant it to be more duelist. You don't give up YOUR shielding spell. You work to dispel/absorb another mage's shielding spell and in turn use that returning energy to empower another spell of your own. So, lets say you cast some 6th lvl spell, it knocks down the other mages say "globe of invulnerability" and you turn it into say a "death armor" or a "improved mage armor" spell since you have that memorized, but you don't actually expend your own spell. Anyway, that's the base idea I'd go with, but obviously, it'd need some more development. Wouldn't be a bad idea and there's been similar in the past.
Re-reading what he wrote, I'm thinking your right. If that's the case then we'll probably have to add a Saving Throw: Will and possibly Spell Resistance. I guess I just don't see it being used very often this way I guess. Ok, attempt #2:
Haerlan's Mantle Attack
Abjuration
Level: Sor/Wiz 7
Components: V, S, F
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Close 25 ft./5 ft. every 2 levels
Target: One Abjuration spell affecting a target
Duration: 1 round/level (or until the targeted spell is dismissed or dispelled)
Saving Throw: Will negates
Spell Resistance: No
A quick jesture and word syphons the abjuration spell effecting an enemy with a low humming sound, empowering your future protective spells.
In order for this spell to have any effect, the target must have opperating on them an Abjuration spell of at least 4th level. When this spell is cast, it siphons the energy of the targeted spell and gives the caster the ability to cast Abjuration spells memorised without loosing the occupying spell slot. This second spell must be at least two levels lower than the targeted spell. In addition, abjuration spells cast in this way have a casting time reduced to a swift action (if their casting time is normally one standard action).
Material Focus
A small silver or mithral disc in the shape of a shield.
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Edited by - Diffan on 26 Oct 2011 14:22:01 |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2011 : 14:33:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Seethyr
Could a spell like this be created for every spell school? Would the equivalents be of the new school or would they all be abjurations?
In other words, could you siphon an illusion of your own creation to cast a lower level one (for example)?
I don't see why not, but as I re-worked the spell it won't function in this manner. I think you'd be better off making a feat that functions like this. If you want a spell, you could do something similar with it and called:
Seethyr's Illusory Prominence
Illusion
Level: Sor/Wiz 7
Components: V, S, F
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Personal
Target: One illusion spell affecting you
Duration: 1 round/level
With a smirk and defiant flair the illusions that swirl about you morph and change, empowered by your mastery of the Art.
In order for this spell to have any effect, the caster must have opperating on him or herself an Illusion spell of at least 4th level. When this spell is cast, it draws the energy of the targeted spell and gives the caster the ability to cast another Illusion spell he or she has memorised without loosing the occupying spell slot. This effect lessens the power of the first spell, halfing it's duration. The second spell must be at least two levels lower than the targeted spell. In addition, Illusion spells cast in this way may gain a +1 to their DC saves or have a casting time reduced to a swift action (if their casting time is normally one standard action).
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Sith Ari
Acolyte
6 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2011 : 08:00:30
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I m sorry for tha absence but my pc dyed! long live my pc!
THNX for the replies...
Diffan thats exactly what i was thinking...thanx
quote:
Originally posted by Diffan
So, judging by it's description, it makes casting lower level shield-like spells without expending their spell slot. Hmmm, not too bad, though I think it might work better as a Feat or at the very least, making it so the 2nd shield-like spells doesn't use a spell slot and is cast as a Minor Action. So something like this:
Haerlan's Mantle Attack
Abjuration
Level: Sor/Wiz 7
Components: V, S, F
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Personal
Target: One Abjuration spell affecting you
Duration: 1 round/level
A quick jesture and word magnifies the abjuration spell effecting you with a low humming sound, empowering your future protective spells.
In order for this spell to have any effect, the caster must have opperating on him or herself an Abjuration spell of at least 4th level. When this spell is cast, it siphons the energy of the targeted spell and gives the caster the ability to cast another Abjuration spell he or she has memorised without loosing the occupying spell slot. This second spell must be at least two levels lower than the targeted spell. In addition, abjuration spells cast in this way have a casting time reduced to a swift action (if their casting time is normally one standard action).
Material Focus
A small silver or mithral disc in the shape of a shield.
As for this:
Actually, I'm thinking he meant it to be more duelist. You don't give up YOUR shielding spell. You work to dispel/absorb another mage's shielding spell and in turn use that returning energy to empower another spell of your own. So, lets say you cast some 6th lvl spell, it knocks down the other mages say "globe of invulnerability" and you turn it into say a "death armor" or a "improved mage armor" spell since you have that memorized, but you don't actually expend your own spell. Anyway, that's the base idea I'd go with, but obviously, it'd need some more development. Wouldn't be a bad idea and there's been similar in the past.
Intriging idea i havent thought about it ...
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