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Imp
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 14 Oct 2011 : 16:25:48
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Where can I find some more info on them? I'm mostly interested in fluff that could give a few pointers to how such a drow bard could be stated mechanically.
The most obvious answer is Bard/Assassin, but I'm sure there are better options and as long as it does stick with the canon fluff, it can even be a Warblade/Sorcerer or something like that. I know of a Bard ACF that trades Bardic Knowledge (IIRC) for Use Poison, but it's not a very worthwhile change. Don't bother thinking about mechanics, because that's not what I'm asking about. I need info on drow bards, also known as Bae#8217;qeshel, minstrel assassins worshiping Lolth.
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Edited by - Imp on 19 Oct 2011 01:05:22
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Imp
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 18 Oct 2011 : 20:34:12
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Farrel
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
239 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2011 : 20:56:01
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quote:
Originally posted by Imp
Where can I find some more info on them? I'm mostly interested in fluff that could give a few pointers to how such a drow bard could be stated mechanically.
The most obvious answer is Bard/Assassin, but I'm sure there are better options and as long as it does stick with the canon fluff, it can even be a Warblade/Sorcerer or something like that. I know of a Bard ACF that trades Bardic Knowledge (IIRC) for Use Poison, but it's not a very worthwhile change.
I read the thread title and looked at the first part of your post and i'm not sure I understand what you want...
What class is it that you intend to try, Bard or Warblade?
Are you more interested in the character development or the build and it's strengths?
What type of fluff were you after?
It sounds to me as though you are looking at a build which is crunchy and fluffy (that sounds strange), by which I mean you're looking at trying to tie-in your build to canon lore?
If you provide some answers i'm sure some CK experts on the Drow might be able to provide some help.
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Oct 2011 : 22:56:41
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| Agreed. The OP is too vague and contradictory to give us much to go on. Until you clarify it, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't get anything. |
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Imp
Learned Scribe
231 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2011 : 22:58:51
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I'm asking for information on drow bards, not help with the mechanics. This is a board about Realms lore, right? All I did was explain WHY I want it. |
Edited by - Imp on 18 Oct 2011 22:59:49 |
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Farrel
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Oct 2011 : 23:07:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Imp
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I'm asking for information on drow bards, not help with the mechanics. This is a board about Realms lore, right?
Yep, correct 
I don't know much about Drow Bards but I would immediately conjure images of a character that's fairly seedy and used to the darker pleasures that entertain the Drow. If you were to add the Assassin class, and the character is male then you have a variant Black Widow... a Black Widower?
What sourcebooks have you taken inspiration from so far, knowing that might help with some fluff?
To give us some inspiration, and something to think about, could we have a look at what you've decided so far for your Drow Bard? |
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Imp
Learned Scribe
231 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 00:20:22
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*sigh*
I'm not looking for help on my character. I'm looking for INFORMATION on drow bards, Bae#8217;qeshel, which are described as not simple musicians, but assassins who worship Lolth. Don't bother with thinking about mechanics, because that's NOT what I'm asking about.
i'm getting more disappointed from post to post... |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 03:33:41
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First of all, in your OP you explicitly started talking about crunch, and gave a vague question without much detail on what or why you wanted things. So don't blame us if we're scratching our heads not knowing what you're talking about.
Another reason people aren't saying anything is because lore on these guys is non-existent. They were mentioned all of once, in IIRC the WotSQ books. It was an invention of that author; there'd never been anything about them before. Remember, in 2e, which is where most of the drow lore comes from, drow couldn't be bards. Period. I've done a text search of Drow of the Underdark, and the word bard shows up a grand total of three times, twice about how priestess of Eilistraee have to hire unknown bards, and once under the monster manual page for the sinister bat.
You're on your own for lore on these guys. Now, if you want us to speculate, we can do that too, but you have to ask nicely, and give us more information on what your looking for. If you want some mechanics ideas, try looking at Athasian bards from Dark Sun. Otherwise, it's on you. |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
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Imp
Learned Scribe
231 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 03:45:35
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Was that so hard to say that there isn't any? This news are actually beneficial to me, because I wanted to make a drow bard, but didn't know if they have any specific tactics or abilities. Now I know that I can make what I want.
And no, I was clearly asking for lore about drow bards. This is a forum about lore. It was silly of you to think that I'm after something else. I just wanted to share with you what I will use this info for. I see that a simple "Give me lore, NAO!" would be more appropriate...
Thread can be locked. |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 04:08:32
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First, you never said you wanted the bae'qeshel, which are different than just bards in general.
Second, as has been said multiple times, you OP was wandering, vague, and contained discussions on both lore and crunch. So that's what you got: vague, dual-answers because you didn't bother to tell us exactly what you wanted. There have been plenty of crunch questions on CK in general and in Running the Realms in particular, we're happy to help with either.
Third, politeness helps. "Give me lore NOW!" results in a very quick "No," with no one ever looking at the thread again, and quite possibly ignoring you as well. Be polite. Be specific. Don't get bent out of shape if we come back and say we need you to clarify. We're happy to help, but we don't have to answer questions. You'll notice that as soon as you actually managed to articulate your question, you got an answer quickly. |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well. |
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Farrel
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
239 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 11:07:32
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Originally posted by Imp
*sigh*
i'm getting more disappointed from post to post...
Me too, and it's been your posts and attitude that's brought about that feeling. I just wanted to help in any way I could.
The thing about communicating effectively is being clear about what you want, you weren't clear in your first post (which now bears hardly any resemblance to your original), which is why I asked questions... to gain some insight into what you actually wanted/needed.
quote:
Originally posted by Imp
Where can I find some more info on them? I'm mostly interested in fluff that could give a few pointers to how such a drow bard could be stated mechanically.
The most obvious answer is Bard/Assassin, but I'm sure there are better options and as long as it does stick with the canon fluff, it can even be a Warblade/Sorcerer or something like that. I know of a Bard ACF that trades Bardic Knowledge (IIRC) for Use Poison, but it's not a very worthwhile change.
If this isn't a question regarding mechanics I don't know what else it might be?
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Originally posted by Imp
*sigh*
Don't bother with thinking about mechanics, because that's NOT what I'm asking about.
If you were to at least be consistent... |
Edited by - Farrel on 19 Oct 2011 11:08:58 |
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Imp
Learned Scribe
231 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 12:00:02
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Read the first two sentences. First is the question, second is a follow up. The rest is just addendum, babbling about WHY I need the lore.
This is a board about LORE. Torilian lore. And I came in search of LORE, but what did you guys concentrate on? Some irrelevant part about mechanics. It's not my fault that you don't know in what kind of forum you are posting... |
Edited by - Imp on 19 Oct 2011 12:03:03 |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
896 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 12:06:36
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Ok, now you're just trolling  |
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Farrel
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
239 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 12:10:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Imp
Read the first two sentences. First is the question, second is a follow up. The rest is just addendum, babbling about WHY I need the lore.
This is a board about LORE. Torilian lore. And I came in search of LORE, but what did you guys concentrate on? Some irrelevant part about mechanics. It's not my fault that you don't know in what kind of forum you are posting...
I'm so very sorry.
I'm just a well meaning idiot that wanted to try and help... shame on me for not having the Divination skills of Savras 
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
2450 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 13:46:45
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| Yeah. Time to add Imp to the list of "ignore from now on." |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 Oct 2011 : 14:29:08
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Wooly Rupert
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