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Markustay
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 :  00:42:16  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was talking about the book(s), as a published work, and not so much the setting itself.

The new setting is chock-full of good ideas, that either weren't fully realized nor fleshed-out, or ran contrary to other 4e lore. When I said 'cobbled together', I meant the tome, not the setting (which unfortunately also felt that way, because it was a reflection of the books about it).

What we were just discussing in this thread is a perfect example - someone was smart-enough to remember the wall, but then addressed it poorly. If it wasn't going to be made interesting (or even consistent), what was even the point of mentioning it? This is why I say it feels like just a pile of several years worth of notes cobbled together - rushed, with little cohesion. Its just very rough around the edges as far as content... it lacks focus. The tempo of the 3e CG was a masterpiece - each chapter flowed seamlessly into the next. It was an enjoyable read, like a novel, rather then have that flat, textbook feel. I felt as if pieces of information were just being flung at us.

On the other hand, I have to admit that a lot of that feeling could be because I didn't like the shear number of changes, which was jarring. I felt like Woody Allen waking up in Sleeper (in other words, completely disoriented).

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 05 Nov 2011 00:42:50
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Wrigley
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Posted - 06 May 2012 :  22:19:44  Show Profile  Visit Wrigley's Homepage Send Wrigley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Little more thoughts on the wall:
First of all - we are talking about ocean, you cannot build a wall to the top and think that it will last a moment.
Second - I think that any sentient nation in sea will try to use a heavier protection for it's solders in full fledged war. These solders will therefore be pulled to the bottom but usually, there is no trouble with that in the sea.
Third - not only is there psychological effect of big static barrier but also fact, that almost all sea predators attack from bellow and I bet that everything living in sea know that and instinctively feel vulnerable when forced to show it's belly in open sea.
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