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Elsenrail
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Tarrok of Halruaa
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03 Sep 2011 : 12:23:56
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| I have written to James Wyatt and Mike Mears at WotC to register my concern about e-book only Forgotten Realms novel publications (to emphasise my point I refused to use electronic means of communication and posted my letters to them! LOL). |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
769 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2011 : 09:25:38
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Adobe .pdf is the only proprietary eBook-type format throughout history which has become truly open source (and can therefore be freely ported onto every existing and future platform)
Just to be clear, the PDF format isn't open source. It's a closed format that Adobe owns. You have to actually own Acrobat or license it to create a PDF document. But what most people might not realize is that PDFs can have DRM embedded in them. The Battletech fiction website Battlecorp sells PDFs with DRM in them.
The DRM dilemma eBooks is a tricky issue. Writers and publishers need to get paid for their product and digital media is so easily pirated without any sort of writes management. I think the key is setting a fair price for eBooks. I feel that 99% of readers will have no problem buying eBooks that are set at $1-5 a book. But selling them in the $8-16 range is just greedy and will cause the number of people who pirate to skyrocket.
It's amazing to me that corporations who deal in digital media haven't figured this out yet. There is always an acceptable price range that both consumer and producer will both agree is fair. Yet all they see is a way to increase their profit margin's by maintaining the same price point as paperback media. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 05 Sep 2011 : 15:50:36
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Originally posted by Caolin
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Adobe .pdf is the only proprietary eBook-type format throughout history which has become truly open source (and can therefore be freely ported onto every existing and future platform)
Just to be clear, the PDF format isn't open source. It's a closed format that Adobe owns. You have to actually own Acrobat or license it to create a PDF document. But what most people might not realize is that PDFs can have DRM embedded in them. The Battletech fiction website Battlecorp sells PDFs with DRM in them.
The DRM dilemma eBooks is a tricky issue. Writers and publishers need to get paid for their product and digital media is so easily pirated without any sort of writes management. I think the key is setting a fair price for eBooks. I feel that 99% of readers will have no problem buying eBooks that are set at $1-5 a book. But selling them in the $8-16 range is just greedy and will cause the number of people who pirate to skyrocket.
It's amazing to me that corporations who deal in digital media haven't figured this out yet. There is always an acceptable price range that both consumer and producer will both agree is fair. Yet all they see is a way to increase their profit margin's by maintaining the same price point as paperback media.
Same issues with CDs. Charge a fair price, people will be more inclined to buy them. Ask someone making minimum wage to spend 3 hours of his pay on something he can't preview first? He's more likely to look for illegal versions. Heck, I've not made minimum wage in a long time, and I still hesitate to do somethinglike that -- I only buy blind if I know I like the artist; otherwise I find somewhere to legally preview the CD or I don't buy it.
Back on topic... Given similar prices between a physical object and a virtual one, I want the physical one. As I've pointed out before, production and distribution costs are less for a ebook, so the price should be adjusted accordingly.
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
8041 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2011 : 16:39:08
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 05 Sep 2011 : 16:56:44
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I may have said this somewhere on the site before. If so, please forgive the redundancy.
Anyway, I agree that an ebook should cost less than its paper-and-ink counterpart. When it doesn't, the consumer is being implicitly being asked to cover production, shipping, and warehousing costs that do not in fact exist.
Some publishers have suggested that they keep ebook prices commensurate with regular book prices because they don't want to kill off brick-and-mortar bookstores any faster than they're dying already. I don't want to see the traditional bookstore perish from the earth, either, but this is arguably not the customer's problem.
About the only way I can think of to finesse the situation (meaning, to charge the same for both versions of the book without the customer feeling like he's getting screwed) is to add extra content to the ebook.That might work. |
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zenmichael
Seeker
USA
52 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2011 : 23:27:13
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
About the only way I can think of to finesse the situation (meaning, to charge the same for both versions of the book without the customer feeling like he's getting screwed) is to add extra content to the ebook.That might work.
In general, this does seem like a possible solution to the problem, though then I, as someone who PREFERS ebooks, would be buying the print version instead. Nothing pro or con the idea, but Erik mentioned earlier that a large portion of the "extras" included with Shadowbane would be sample chapters from other books ... which I can grab for free already via Amazon on the Kindle. So ... it seems like a lot of the "extra" content" is somewhat meaningless, though perhaps expanding on this in some way could work.
I wonder if there'd be some way to structure it so it was similar to hardback/paperback releases? Like, for instance, an ebook at first release is the $6.39 or what have you, but after it's, say, six months old it drops down to a "fair" price of $3.99 or something. As someone who prefers paperbacks, I've always found it utterly ridiculous that someone would pay more for a book that is no more durable than a paperback (if you treat it right) and far more uncomfortable to read (in my opinion). What's the ONLY bonus of buying hardback? It comes out sooner. I'm more than content to wait a while. I would assume, since paperbacks continue to be made, that this is true for many people. (Conversely, since hardbacks continue to exist, there must be people out there willing to pay more for essentially the same product that they get sooner.) This model doesn't REALLY help for OOP books (unless, say, "Elfshadow" came out on Kindle, etc., at $6.39 just WHENEVER, and then 6 months after that it got marked down), but still, another thought.
If I'm missing something obvious as to why this wouldn't work, feel free to point it out. |
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 01:27:55
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zenmichael: I'm not following what you're saying. If you prefer ebooks, and the ebook and print versions cost the same, why would you go with print?
Anyway, I agree with you that ads, which is what sample chapters of other books amount to, are not "extra content" in any sort of appealing way. My notion of extra content in a fantasy novel would be stuff like maps, illustrations, a short story about the hero from the novel, an essay about the world of the story, or a glossary of special terms. The catch--and it's a huge one--is that that stuff isn't just going to fall out of the air onto the publisher's desk. Someone has to create it, and that means the publisher has to have the money to pay for it in the book's budget. |
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zenmichael
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 05:12:55
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
zenmichael: I'm not following what you're saying. If you prefer ebooks, and the ebook and print versions cost the same, why would you go with print?
Apologies; I do realize that was not quite clear. For me there is more inherent value in a print copy because it has resale and lending value (to ANYONE; I know Nook/Kindle/etc., you can "lend" things, but if someone doesn't have a convenient way to read something those ways, I can still no matter what loan them my copy of "Gardens of the Moon" in print). Therefore if the prices were IDENTICAL and the choice was between print & ebook with freebies that meant nothing, then I'm going to choose print.
The problem I see with "extras" in an ebook is simply that then you are again, essentially, telling a portion of your audience, "You can't have this material unless you accept reading it on an eReader." I'd think that would leave them feeling frustrated in much the same way some of those on this board are frustrated by Shadowbane's e-only release.
Which I totally get. To illustrate: I have a certain kind of vision problem that makes it so 3-D cinema doesn't work for me (oddly, though, b&w 3-D DOES work ... but that's another story). Just doesn't work no matter what. I have fine depth perception, but when it comes to the little glasses making 2-D turn into 3-D, it's useless. I just see things a little fuzzier & get a slight headache. So this whole 3-D trend lately, even with some films I'd LOVE to see, but are in 3-D, frustrates the hell out of me. I guess it's cool some people are enjoying it, but I'm just annoyed. I'm trying to look at the bright side. If the trend continues, maybe 2-D high def televisions will get RIDICULOUSLY cheap soon & I can just paper my walls with them. Uh, anyway, sorry. Bit of a tangent there. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 16:10:46
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
About the only way I can think of to finesse the situation (meaning, to charge the same for both versions of the book without the customer feeling like he's getting screwed) is to add extra content to the ebook.That might work.
This is EXACTLY what WotC has done: http://wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4news/20110902
I wrote a bunch of that supplemental material, including 2 short stories and a 90-page Shadowbane novella.
I've done everything in my power to make the e-book (more a mini-sourcebook than a novel) appealing to warrant the $6 pricetag, which is STILL $2 less than the novel would have cost in print.
Sure, there are plenty of opportunities for you to pirate my novel, but isn't that harming YOU in the long run? If you like reading my stuff, you'd be better served to buy it--if you don't, then the odds decrease that I'll be giving you more stuff to read. Sure, you might have 2-3 novels for free in the short term, but you *could have* had an ongoing series of novels that just kept getting better and better.
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
8041 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 16:47:45
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Luskan, the City of Sails? That caught my attention, my PCs have lost their lands near Mirabar but plan to return and reclaim what is theirs ... more tales and happenings in the North which don't involve overinflated Waterdeep are always welcome.
Erik, I guessing your supplementary efforts are the result of anticipating resistance to eBook-only format? |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 17:53:44
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
This is EXACTLY what WotC has done: http://wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4news/20110902
I wrote a bunch of that supplemental material, including 2 short stories and a 90-page Shadowbane novella.
I've done everything in my power to make the e-book (more a mini-sourcebook than a novel) appealing to warrant the $6 pricetag, which is STILL $2 less than the novel would have cost in print.
Sure, there are plenty of opportunities for you to pirate my novel, but isn't that harming YOU in the long run? If you like reading my stuff, you'd be better served to buy it--if you don't, then the odds decrease that I'll be giving you more stuff to read. Sure, you might have 2-3 novels for free in the short term, but you *could have* had an ongoing series of novels that just kept getting better and better.
Cheers
I wish that the success for this novel was so pivotal in your career, because I want to buy this, if just to help you out (and I like your writing). And I would consider buying it in ebook format if I could afford a device that I could read it on with ease. *Sigh* Perhaps I can get my wife and my brother and my parents to all pitch in and buy me one for Christmas. But I do not know if a sale of this novel at Christmas will help you. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 20:44:22
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Erik, I guessing your supplementary efforts are the result of anticipating resistance to eBook-only format?
No, actually--I would have done it anyway. This just gives me a convenient way to justify writing, distribute it, and get paid for it. 
I've written companion stories for each of my novels thus far--Shadowbane just gets about 400% treatment.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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4598 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 20:49:29
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Originally posted by Hawkins
But I do not know if a sale of this novel at Christmas will help you.
Anytime someone buys a novel of mine, it helps my writing career. The higher my sales numbers are, the more interest I get from publishers, the more books I get contracted to publish, and the more I get paid the more time I have to focus on writing, rather than my day job.
I really do appreciate your earnestness, but I wouldn't want to suggest that going out of your way to drop finances on me is the only or even the best way to help. Obviously, I'd very much appreciate it, and I think you'd enjoy the book, but if you really do want to aid me (or any author), there's no purchase necessary. Talk about the books you like online. Recommend them to friends. Post reviews on Amazon. Attend book readings. Write letters to publishers asking for more of a particular author.
Any of these things are great aids to authors, and they don't require you to buy the actual book.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 21:01:08
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
zenmichael: I'm not following what you're saying. If you prefer ebooks, and the ebook and print versions cost the same, why would you go with print?
Anyway, I agree with you that ads, which is what sample chapters of other books amount to, are not "extra content" in any sort of appealing way. My notion of extra content in a fantasy novel would be stuff like maps, illustrations, a short story about the hero from the novel, an essay about the world of the story, or a glossary of special terms. The catch--and it's a huge one--is that that stuff isn't just going to fall out of the air onto the publisher's desk. Someone has to create it, and that means the publisher has to have the money to pay for it in the book's budget.
Now if every FR eNovel included nicely drawn maps of events surrounding the story I would totally feel justified in paying a higher price. I think most publishers underestimate the desire among the fans base for maps and illustrations to be included with novels.
Of course this would entail more cost going into the production of the eBook. It would cut into the savings the publishers got in going away from print. So I still don't see this happening. |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 21:36:47
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| Agreed with you Caolin, I really love the maps included with the old novels. And then cross referencing those maps with every FR supplement I have obtained so far. However, I don't know why a map wouldn't be available in eformat? I know those readers can do black and white graphics pretty well. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 22:29:37
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Maps inserted into fantasy novels are a fine tradition which I've always supported. Publishers are notoriously cheap, plus they have to juggle budgets and deadlines across multiple projects. Printing that extra page to stick into the book costs next to nothing (a page of scattered text can be butchered out to make room, if it really matters). But producing that map costs money; even if a chunk of existing map is scanned and photoshopped it still has to maintain full canon consistency and show whatever landmarks/routes/details are relevant to the story and maintain certain quality standards; it basically costs money and assigns extra people (along with all their attendant scheduling and costs and agendas) to the final project.
eBooks do allow the author to include his own map pages, such things can be done easily by a child these days; no longer is a professional cartographer or artist required for such little projects. Assuming there are no legal/copyright difficulties involved in publishing the graphics; the last thing anybody wants to do is pay for more lawyers. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 01:49:28
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And to add to this a tie to the OP, Shadowbane does indeed (at least so I've been told) include a map. 1480 Luskan. Woot!
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2011 : 04:09:57
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Are any other scribes have trouble purchasing the Kindle version of Shadowbane?
I've tried loading it up via the Kindle app on my SagePad, and yet it's telling me pricing information isn't available. So I can't make the purchase.
Erik, do you know anything about this that could help me out?
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 04 Nov 2011 : 06:13:42
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2011 : 15:35:46
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Shadowbane's gone down at Amazon again? Hmm.
I'll see what I can find out.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2011 : 15:38:45
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Looks like it downloaded ok for me. I suggest trying it again.
Maybe you were in some weird location where it couldn't connect properly?
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 05 Nov 2011 : 01:25:32
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Looks like it downloaded ok for me. I suggest trying it again.
Maybe you were in some weird location where it couldn't connect properly?
CHeers
No such luck I'm afraid. I've tried it both via SagePad in the city, and on my desktop at home. Both instances have brought up the same message.
I'm starting to think this may be an Australian-based issue, rather than a problem with Amazon. For whatever reason, I can't purchase Shadowbane via Amazon US in Australia.
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 07 Nov 2011 : 15:45:59
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Hmm. You know, I have heard of some issues with downloading the book in countries other than the US or England. The legalese of the international electronic world has not caught up with the e-book market, I'm afraid.
I can only suggest contacting WotC directly, describe your situation (that you earnestly want to purchase their product but can't), and ask to be advised. This is one reason why the print copy is so important, IMO.
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 07 Nov 2011 : 19:35:35
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Looks like it downloaded ok for me. I suggest trying it again.
Maybe you were in some weird location where it couldn't connect properly?
CHeers
No such luck I'm afraid. I've tried it both via SagePad in the city, and on my desktop at home. Both instances have brought up the same message.
I'm starting to think this may be an Australian-based issue, rather than a problem with Amazon. For whatever reason, I can't purchase Shadowbane via Amazon US in Australia.
No worries Sage, it's not like your missing 31 chapters of pure awesomeness ....... 
Or maybe you are
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 08 Nov 2011 : 00:34:36
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Hmm. You know, I have heard of some issues with downloading the book in countries other than the US or England. The legalese of the international electronic world has not caught up with the e-book market, I'm afraid.
I can only suggest contacting WotC directly, describe your situation (that you earnestly want to purchase their product but can't), and ask to be advised. This is one reason why the print copy is so important, IMO.
Cheers
That's essentially what I was thinking. I've had some success in the past, with contacting Wizards' international distribution staff when problems associated with their novel releases in the Asia-Pacific region have arisen. So I'm hopeful that this is simply another instance of a similar problem.
I'm a little annoyed, though, that Australians *still* have to wait for an electronic release of a novel. That's part of the reason why I've often championed this method of publication... because it supposedly does away with the long period of waiting for printed novels to arrive here from the US.  |
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zenmichael
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 08 Nov 2011 : 03:29:01
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'm a little annoyed, though, that Australians *still* have to wait for an electronic release of a novel. That's part of the reason why I've often championed this method of publication... because it supposedly does away with the long period of waiting for printed novels to arrive here from the US.
yeah, it's all pretty ridiculous. i have no idea if the format you're using works this way at all or not, but a little tip i learned from the malazan forums: a fan annoyed at having to wait months for the release of Stonewielder when it's AVAILABLE ON KINDLE FOR UK READERS (!!!) decided to try an experiment & went into his kindle settings & changed his address to that of buckingham palace. BAM, he could download it. then he just changed his address back, problem solved. as i say, no clue if that would work for you, but might be worth giving it a go.
and, yes, if it was up in the air, there IS a map of luskan. i can't make out a damn thing it says, but it's definitely in there |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 08 Nov 2011 : 17:14:50
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Thanks for the tip! That's really quite interesting.
@Map of Luskan: Yes indeed, there is a map. I have the book on my iphone, and I was able to zoom in and read it. Would probably be easier on paper, but at least it's there, right?
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36974 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2011 : 19:14:02
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Originally posted by zenmichael
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'm a little annoyed, though, that Australians *still* have to wait for an electronic release of a novel. That's part of the reason why I've often championed this method of publication... because it supposedly does away with the long period of waiting for printed novels to arrive here from the US.
yeah, it's all pretty ridiculous. i have no idea if the format you're using works this way at all or not, but a little tip i learned from the malazan forums: a fan annoyed at having to wait months for the release of Stonewielder when it's AVAILABLE ON KINDLE FOR UK READERS (!!!) decided to try an experiment & went into his kindle settings & changed his address to that of buckingham palace. BAM, he could download it. then he just changed his address back, problem solved. as i say, no clue if that would work for you, but might be worth giving it a go.
and, yes, if it was up in the air, there IS a map of luskan. i can't make out a damn thing it says, but it's definitely in there
That reminds me of an experiment I did a couple cellphones back, when I discovered a particular ringtone "wasn't available" for my model of phone -- it was an mp3, and my phone would play those, but the phone company said it wasn't available for my cheap cellphone... I wound up finding a site where I could make my own ringtones for free, and never paid for another one. |
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Shadowbane E-book Release
