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Merrith
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 06:33:28
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Sooooooo worth the wait. If you enjoy Ed's writing or El's story at all, get this book. Plenty of new lore revealed that could mean big things for the Realms. Fantastic read all the way through. I know some had issues with a certain mage's "preening villainy" in the previous book, I was not one of them, but I would think even that would grow on you after reading this book.
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 18:43:45
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Originally posted by Merrith
Sooooooo worth the wait. If you enjoy Ed's writing or El's story at all, get this book. Plenty of new lore revealed that could mean big things for the Realms. Fantastic read all the way through. I know some had issues with a certain mage's "preening villainy" in the previous book, I was not one of them, but I would think even that would grow on you after reading this book.
I'm always amazed at the speed with which people read books. LOL, I'm only on chapter 4. Well done. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 21:04:45
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I didn't know the book was out yet.
I thought it was coming out with the Neverwinter CS. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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jornan
Learned Scribe
Canada
256 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 21:39:40
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| Alas, I must wait until enough FR books are released that I can bundle them for free shipping and the title discount from chapters.ca (amazon.ca hasn't carried FR books in almost a year now). |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2011 : 22:44:41
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Just got my copy of Bury Elminster Deep from B&N. Got me some reading to do. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1301 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 02:38:57
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Just bought mine today. I was re-reading Elminster in Hell...now I switched to Bury Elminster Deep. It's SO GOOD so far!! I don't know if Ed reads here but if he does, WELL DONE MR GREENWOOD!
Can't wait to finish reading it and discuss it here. |
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Clad In Shadows
Learned Scribe
Canada
158 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 15:42:42
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Originally posted by jornan
Alas, I must wait until enough FR books are released that I can bundle them for free shipping and the title discount from chapters.ca (amazon.ca hasn't carried FR books in almost a year now).
Amazon always has FR books. Unless you're referring to the fact that they go out of stock very quickly. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
2396 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 15:55:27
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| This is why you need to consider an e-reader. E-books do not go out of stock or out of print. :) |
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Clad In Shadows
Learned Scribe
Canada
158 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 16:03:55
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| I'm definitely in the anti e-reader camp. I know it's gotten cliche by now, but I love the look, feel, and smell of a book. I like having my books on a bookshelf (I never sell them). And I love wandering through a used bookstore looking for hidden gems. My wife has a kindle, so I know what they look like, etc. I just don't like it. I will only read an ebook if that's the only format a book is available as. |
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
769 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 19:00:04
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
This is why you need to consider an e-reader. E-books do not go out of stock or out of print. :)
I would agree with you if the prices of eBooks were a little more reasonable. I know that you as an author and the publishers still need to get paid. But producing an eBook file can't be anywhere close to what it costs to printing a book. |
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
740 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 19:14:25
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
This is why you need to consider an e-reader. E-books do not go out of stock or out of print. :)
I'm very dubious about the whole e-reader thing... 8-track tapes, VCRs, laserdiscs, they're all defunct.
And in many cases, the kindle or iBook prices are almost exactly the same as hardcovers. Getting rid of paper publishing doesn't really reduce costs for consumers, it just turns into more profits for the publishing houses.
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"The very best possible post-fourteenth-century Realms lets down those who love the specific, detailed social, political and magical situation, with its thousands of characters, developed over forty years, and want to learn more about it; and those who'd be open to a new one with equal depth, which there just isn't time to re-produce; and those repelled, some past the point of no return, by the bad-taste-and-plausibility gap of things done to the world when its guardianship was less careful."
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1301 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 19:14:35
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| I wish the entire FR library would come out as Ebooks. The selection of books is parlous and limited to rather recent releases. I'm glad Elaine's older books are being released, now just wish the rest would. It shouldn't cost too much to get them available. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 19:26:53
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Originally posted by Clad In Shadows
I'm definitely in the anti e-reader camp. I know it's gotten cliche by now, but I love the look, feel, and smell of a book. I like having my books on a bookshelf (I never sell them). And I love wandering through a used bookstore looking for hidden gems. My wife has a kindle, so I know what they look like, etc. I just don't like it. I will only read an ebook if that's the only format a book is available as.
I agree, partly. One must not dismiss the advantages of e-books. Quite portable. Saves time when you search something particular in the story (ctrl+f). Never gathers dusts (hence doesn't need regular cleaning)...and many more. But then again, if I were to choose only one of the two, I'd still pick printed books. |
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Lily M Green
Learned Scribe
Australia
115 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 19:42:59
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
This is why you need to consider an e-reader. E-books do not go out of stock or out of print. :)
Except if you're buying on Amazon UK. ;) Lovely authors, you need to start nagging at your publisher to get the licensing issues sorted and these made available to international buyers because I'd love to read (ebooks are great for the shelf-space and sight challenged like me). |
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36910 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 21:36:36
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Originally posted by Seravin
I wish the entire FR library would come out as Ebooks. The selection of books is parlous and limited to rather recent releases. I'm glad Elaine's older books are being released, now just wish the rest would. It shouldn't cost too much to get them available.
I'd be a lot more inclined to go for an eReader if older TSR/WotC books were available as eBooks. And if the prices were reasonable, of course. |
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Merrith
Learned Scribe
135 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2011 : 23:25:41
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Originally posted by Clad In Shadows
I'm definitely in the anti e-reader camp. I know it's gotten cliche by now, but I love the look, feel, and smell of a book. I like having my books on a bookshelf (I never sell them). And I love wandering through a used bookstore looking for hidden gems. My wife has a kindle, so I know what they look like, etc. I just don't like it. I will only read an ebook if that's the only format a book is available as.
I'm with you on this. I love having my bookshelf full of Realms novels and Star Wars novels all organized with paperback and hardbacks together. Being able to have the actual books to peruse through is always my favorite way to find old tidbits of lore even if I could find it faster in an e-book. Truthfully another reason especially with the most recent 2 Elminster novels is the cover art has been fantastic. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2011 : 03:26:40
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Originally posted by Merrith
Truthfully another reason especially with the most recent 2 Elminster novels is the cover art has been fantastic.
Except that they look almost exactly the same. They just got rid of the color blue in the second book. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2011 : 04:34:59
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| Halfway through the novel. What a romp. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Merrith
Learned Scribe
135 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2011 : 15:32:49
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by Merrith
Truthfully another reason especially with the most recent 2 Elminster novels is the cover art has been fantastic.
Except that they look almost exactly the same. They just got rid of the color blue in the second book.
By blue you mean the woman of blue fire that is above him on the cover of the first. Considering how these books go El with conflagrations going around him is a pretty good cover for both so far. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2011 : 16:28:47
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I just finished Bury El Deep. I can only say WOW!
The last chapter has some interesting revelations about Larloch in it.
I was wanting to learn more about the Imprisoners, but Larloch was all I needed to know.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Aug 2011 : 05:23:04
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Originally posted by Brimstone
I just finished Bury El Deep. I can only say WOW!
The last chapter has some interesting revelations about Larloch in it.
I was wanting to learn more about the Imprisoners, but Larloch was all I needed to know.
Interesting. Hopefully he'll play a major role in the third book. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
12094 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2011 : 15:43:21
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Originally posted by Eltheron
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
This is why you need to consider an e-reader. E-books do not go out of stock or out of print. :)
I'm very dubious about the whole e-reader thing... 8-track tapes, VCRs, laserdiscs, they're all defunct.
And in many cases, the kindle or iBook prices are almost exactly the same as hardcovers. Getting rid of paper publishing doesn't really reduce costs for consumers, it just turns into more profits for the publishing houses.
Let it be noted that I don't have an e-reader. HOWEVER, after recently moving and requiring 2 hours to pack all my books and 4 hours to unpack them, plus straining my back moving them.... if you're a book hoarder, it might be worth considering for the books you know you'll read once and never pick up again... of course, now that I'm in my 40's, I don't read as much as I used to.
That being said, if Elminster has a new romp in the realms, I may just have to revisit the realms novels. I wasn't much impressed when the first 4E ones came out and it finally broke my hold, but certain authors remember the old stuff and its worth reading. I'd love to read another book by Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham for example. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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Merrith
Learned Scribe
135 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2011 : 17:54:27
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Originally posted by sleyvas
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Originally posted by Eltheron
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
This is why you need to consider an e-reader. E-books do not go out of stock or out of print. :)
I'm very dubious about the whole e-reader thing... 8-track tapes, VCRs, laserdiscs, they're all defunct.
And in many cases, the kindle or iBook prices are almost exactly the same as hardcovers. Getting rid of paper publishing doesn't really reduce costs for consumers, it just turns into more profits for the publishing houses.
Let it be noted that I don't have an e-reader. HOWEVER, after recently moving and requiring 2 hours to pack all my books and 4 hours to unpack them, plus straining my back moving them.... if you're a book hoarder, it might be worth considering for the books you know you'll read once and never pick up again... of course, now that I'm in my 40's, I don't read as much as I used to.
That being said, if Elminster has a new romp in the realms, I may just have to revisit the realms novels. I wasn't much impressed when the first 4E ones came out and it finally broke my hold, but certain authors remember the old stuff and its worth reading. I'd love to read another book by Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham for example.
If you're looking for books by Schend or Cunningham...Schend has already written a 4E Realms book entitled Blackstaff Tower which is set in the current time of the Realms almost a century after the Spellplague. It brings you up to date on the happenings about Blackstaff Tower and Waterdeep and delves into some good lore about the city's past as well.
Cunningham is also coming out with another Realms book next year I believe about the daughter of Elaith entitled The Serpent's Daughter. Definitely one I'm going to pick up. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
12094 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2011 : 19:46:53
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Originally posted by Merrith
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Originally posted by sleyvas
quote:
Originally posted by Eltheron
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
This is why you need to consider an e-reader. E-books do not go out of stock or out of print. :)
I'm very dubious about the whole e-reader thing... 8-track tapes, VCRs, laserdiscs, they're all defunct.
And in many cases, the kindle or iBook prices are almost exactly the same as hardcovers. Getting rid of paper publishing doesn't really reduce costs for consumers, it just turns into more profits for the publishing houses.
Let it be noted that I don't have an e-reader. HOWEVER, after recently moving and requiring 2 hours to pack all my books and 4 hours to unpack them, plus straining my back moving them.... if you're a book hoarder, it might be worth considering for the books you know you'll read once and never pick up again... of course, now that I'm in my 40's, I don't read as much as I used to.
That being said, if Elminster has a new romp in the realms, I may just have to revisit the realms novels. I wasn't much impressed when the first 4E ones came out and it finally broke my hold, but certain authors remember the old stuff and its worth reading. I'd love to read another book by Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham for example.
If you're looking for books by Schend or Cunningham...Schend has already written a 4E Realms book entitled Blackstaff Tower which is set in the current time of the Realms almost a century after the Spellplague. It brings you up to date on the happenings about Blackstaff Tower and Waterdeep and delves into some good lore about the city's past as well.
Cunningham is also coming out with another Realms book next year I believe about the daughter of Elaith entitled The Serpent's Daughter. Definitely one I'm going to pick up.
HMMMM, I love reading stuff about Elaith. Definitely one I'll pick up too. I read blackstaff tower and enjoyed it. I've fallen out of tracking the realms novels since I'm not into 4e, so thank you for the heads up about this stuff. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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entreri00
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 : 07:23:12
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| So in the sample chapter Storm says she doesn't want him to interrupt something wonderful and needful. Blah blah. Ok great. Then she agrees to tell him where they went and what they are doing. The answer to the "what" is "your guess is as good as mine". Am I the only one who finds this contradiction by her disappointing in that it seems like the writer is not making sense. |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 : 18:11:54
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***SPOILERS***
***SPOILERS***
I always figured the Simbul must be some 40th level demigod walking around. The tidbits about Larloch were pretty good. Makes ya wonder if he or Mystra or Azuth are going to be resurrected in some form or another. Next novel is Elminster Enraged...I wonder if Storm or the Simbul is gonna finally bite the big one and El is going to end up madwits crazy and go nuclear on a city or two? |
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Merrith
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 14 Aug 2011 : 19:01:28
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Originally posted by entreri00
So in the sample chapter Storm says she doesn't want him to interrupt something wonderful and needful. Blah blah. Ok great. Then she agrees to tell him where they went and what they are doing. The answer to the "what" is "your guess is as good as mine". Am I the only one who finds this contradiction by her disappointing in that it seems like the writer is not making sense.
It makes perfect sense...as she merely knows the basics about what is happening and has no idea other than that exactly what is going on or what will happen. She obviously thinks it's needful to not interrupt it as she doesn't follow herself. Makes sense to me.
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
2396 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 19:25:31
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Originally posted by Lily M Green
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
This is why you need to consider an e-reader. E-books do not go out of stock or out of print. :)
Except if you're buying on Amazon UK. ;) Lovely authors, you need to start nagging at your publisher to get the licensing issues sorted and these made available to international buyers because I'd love to read (ebooks are great for the shelf-space and sight challenged like me).
Such things as licensing issues, when to publish backlist as ebooks, how to price ebooks--those are publishing decisions. Authors have little or no influence.
Lily, I couldn't agree more on the benefits of ebooks for those of us who ar4e sight-challenged. The ability to increase the font to a comfortable size reduces eyestrain considerably.
Sorry for the digression. Back to Elminster! :) |
Edited by - ElaineCunningham on 15 Aug 2011 19:28:05 |
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