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Bladewind
Master of Realmslore

Netherlands
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Posted - 01 Apr 2012 :  19:14:50  Show Profile Send Bladewind a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What effect does alcohol have in your games?

A low dc poison with Int damage and uncounsiousness? A subdual damage dealing beverage? Something else from earlier editions perhaps?


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Xnella Moonblade-Thann
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USA
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Posted - 25 May 2012 :  09:57:50  Show Profile Send Xnella Moonblade-Thann a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I seem to recall a cetain half-moon elf who could down an entire goblet of elverquisst without any ill effects, while her human partner would sip at it because of its powerful kick.

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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
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Posted - 25 May 2012 :  11:29:59  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thibbledorf Pwent and the Gutbuster brigade hands down.
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Markustay
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Posted - 25 May 2012 :  19:40:43  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the Chivalry & Sorcery rules, in one of the supplements (there was only a couple), they covered 'getting drunk' quite well, but the mechanics involved were too rules-heavy IMO.

Ergo, when I created my own character sheets for the game, I included an Intoxication Number, which was based on the rules, but much easier to apply. I basically did all the PC-math ahead of time, when generating the character, and the number could change over time, depending upon several variables, like level, and taking a 'drinking skill'. The game rules themselves had included differences for race and mass, which was rolled into my catch-all IN (Intox. #).

Then, every drink would have a number depending upon its alcohol percentage, and you just did a savings throw after finishing each drink, minus that number (which was cumulative). Sounds more complicated then it was (once you did the preliminary math on the char. sheet). How much you missed the SR by determined the effects (their was a table in the rules), and you could get worse and worse (just like RL).

Sadly, it almost never came up - rarely did anyone imbibe more then they could handle (us PCs, at any rate). A lot of work for very little return, I'm afraid. The only time PCs tend to drink like fish is when there are no rules in place covering it (and punishing them).

NOW, if you asked me about the time I accepted a cup of dragon-Coffee...

EDIT: As for the OP - didn't the Rashemi berserkers drink some pretty nasty stuff?

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Edited by - Markustay on 25 May 2012 19:43:53
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BEAST
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Posted - 26 May 2012 :  04:33:31  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

Thibbledorf Pwent and the Gutbuster brigade hands down.

I once asked RAS to write a short story on the origins of Gutbuster and to call it "Pwent, on the Pint".

He hasn't gotten back to me on that yet.

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Thauranil
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India
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Posted - 26 May 2012 :  10:56:53  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BEAST

quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

Thibbledorf Pwent and the Gutbuster brigade hands down.

I once asked RAS to write a short story on the origins of Gutbuster and to call it "Pwent, on the Pint".

He hasn't gotten back to me on that yet.


let me if that ever comes out
would love to read a bit more about good old pwent.
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Xnella Moonblade-Thann
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USA
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Posted - 27 May 2012 :  16:26:44  Show Profile Send Xnella Moonblade-Thann a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pwent sounds like it's a little to hard for my likes, but give me elverquisst any day

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Dennis
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Posted - 28 May 2012 :  01:07:23  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

There's in character in Yuyu Hakusho whose "spiritual energy" (equivalent to innate magic) can only surface if he's drunk. He's funny and formidable at the same time. His enemies tend to underestimate him because of his constant drunken state.

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Thauranil
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India
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Posted - 29 May 2012 :  07:45:36  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


There's in character in Yuyu Hakusho whose "spiritual energy" (equivalent to innate magic) can only surface if he's drunk. He's funny and formidable at the same time. His enemies tend to underestimate him because of his constant drunken state.


Are you talking about Chu?
Wow just thinking about this old series makes me nostalgic.
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Dennis
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Posted - 31 May 2012 :  08:33:22  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I'm not sure if that's the name used in the Filipino dubbed version. Most of the names in said version are English, like the main characters: Dennis (Kurama), Eugene (Yuseke), Vincent (Hei), and Alfred. But there's no other drunkard contestant in the Toguro Arc, so...

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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
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Posted - 31 May 2012 :  09:50:25  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I saw it on animax which had an English version but kept all the original Japanese names so i didn't even know about these anglicized names. I mean Yuseke got turned into Eugene! Thats just ridiculous. I mean really Eugene doesn't even sound vaguely similar to Yuseke.
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Dennis
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Posted - 31 May 2012 :  14:34:45  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Well, it's dubbed in Tagalog, so they could choose any names they wanted. It's far easier to remember.

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BEAST
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Posted - 31 May 2012 :  22:21:32  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


There's in character in Yuyu Hakusho whose "spiritual energy" (equivalent to innate magic) can only surface if he's drunk. He's funny and formidable at the same time. His enemies tend to underestimate him because of his constant drunken state.

Major Roy Focker of Macross fame always did his best flying while drunk, too. His friends thought it was natural talent--it turns out that it was just the booze!

"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
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<"Comprehensive Chronology of R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms Works">
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
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Posted - 01 Jun 2012 :  16:02:07  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Well, it's dubbed in Tagalog, so they could choose any names they wanted. It's far easier to remember.


Thats not my point. I saw a dubbed version myself. I am just saying that they could have picked a name more true to the characters spirit. I mean does Eugene sound like a punks name to you.
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Dennis
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 :  01:31:57  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Well, it's dubbed in Tagalog, so they could choose any names they wanted. It's far easier to remember.


Thats not my point. I saw a dubbed version myself. I am just saying that they could have picked a name more true to the characters spirit. I mean does Eugene sound like a punks name to you.


Nah. That matters not. Here in our country, even people with "angelic" names like Gabriel and Nathaniel end up being on the wrong side of the law.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 :  05:23:44  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And now, back to our regularly scheduled discussion...

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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 :  12:48:18  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@ Dennis: Wow that's tough haha.
@Giant space hamster: My bad
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 :  13:08:35  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If we are talking about individuals...I'm going to go with Elminster as a rather fine heavy drinker. The man has had centuries to build a very strong tolerance to booze!

Funny thing, I remember when in a comic book he was drinking quite a bit against another wizard while the two debated history and such. I can't recall the wizard's name off the top of my head right now; but for some reason I remember the Astrolabe of Nimbral...Haldemar maybe?

Anyway, I would have to say Elminster is one of the "finest" drinkers in the world of Faerun.

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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore

India
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 :  14:14:33  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ahh but he has a little magical help surely ,in the form of the silver fire if nothing else.
Also he has had like a thousand years to build up a Wolverine level of tolerance to alcohol even if you discount magic.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Jun 2012 :  15:08:18  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

If we are talking about individuals...I'm going to go with Elminster as a rather fine heavy drinker. The man has had centuries to build a very strong tolerance to booze!

Funny thing, I remember when in a comic book he was drinking quite a bit against another wizard while the two debated history and such. I can't recall the wizard's name off the top of my head right now; but for some reason I remember the Astrolabe of Nimbral...Haldemar maybe?

Anyway, I would have to say Elminster is one of the "finest" drinkers in the world of Faerun.



Dwalimar Omen was the mage. It was in the second story arc of the Forgotten Realms comic, issues 5-8. I believe it was called "The Dragonreach Saga".

The two were discussing artifacts of the Realms.

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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Jun 2012 :  06:22:31  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Thauranil

Ahh but he has a little magical help surely ,in the form of the silver fire if nothing else.
Also he has had like a thousand years to build up a Wolverine level of tolerance to alcohol even if you discount magic.


Most mages of accomplishment have anti-drunkenness concoctions/spells. Also, they usually drink "quality" wine, which are hard to come by.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

Ahh but he has a little magical help surely ,in the form of the silver fire if nothing else.
Also he has had like a thousand years to build up a Wolverine level of tolerance to alcohol even if you discount magic.


Most mages of accomplishment have anti-drunkenness concoctions/spells. Also, they usually drink "quality" wine, which are hard to come by.



There is an existing spell in Realmslore for this: Spendelard's Chaser, which "was originally created in order to facilitate mental recovery from brewery research expeditions (in other words, as a hangover cure)." The spell basically purges poisons, including alcohol, from the body.

It's on page 55 of the old Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover.

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Thauranil
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Posted - 05 Jun 2012 :  11:31:57  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

Ahh but he has a little magical help surely ,in the form of the silver fire if nothing else.
Also he has had like a thousand years to build up a Wolverine level of tolerance to alcohol even if you discount magic.


Most mages of accomplishment have anti-drunkenness concoctions/spells. Also, they usually drink "quality" wine, which are hard to come by.



There is an existing spell in Realmslore for this: Spendelard's Chaser, which "was originally created in order to facilitate mental recovery from brewery research expeditions (in other words, as a hangover cure)." The spell basically purges poisons, including alcohol, from the body.

It's on page 55 of the old Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover.


Whereas an honest drinker like Pwent relies only on his sheer bloody minded stubbornness and cast iron gut in order to survive his heavy duty drinking.

Edited by - Thauranil on 05 Jun 2012 11:35:06
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The Sage
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Australia
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Posted - 05 Jun 2012 :  14:42:08  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

Ahh but he has a little magical help surely ,in the form of the silver fire if nothing else.
Also he has had like a thousand years to build up a Wolverine level of tolerance to alcohol even if you discount magic.


Most mages of accomplishment have anti-drunkenness concoctions/spells. Also, they usually drink "quality" wine, which are hard to come by.



There is an existing spell in Realmslore for this: Spendelard's Chaser, which "was originally created in order to facilitate mental recovery from brewery research expeditions (in other words, as a hangover cure)." The spell basically purges poisons, including alcohol, from the body.

It's on page 55 of the old Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover.

That does remind me... I had a pending query for Ed that was supposed to ask about whether there might be similar castings for those folk affected/incapacitated by minor poisons and/or drugs.

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Dennis
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

Ahh but he has a little magical help surely ,in the form of the silver fire if nothing else.
Also he has had like a thousand years to build up a Wolverine level of tolerance to alcohol even if you discount magic.


Most mages of accomplishment have anti-drunkenness concoctions/spells. Also, they usually drink "quality" wine, which are hard to come by.


There is an existing spell in Realmslore for this: Spendelard's Chaser, which "was originally created in order to facilitate mental recovery from brewery research expeditions (in other words, as a hangover cure)." The spell basically purges poisons, including alcohol, from the body.

It's on page 55 of the old Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover.


Ah, yes. Thanks, Wooly. I know I read it somewhere; I just couldn't remember where.

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BEAST
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Posted - 05 Jun 2012 :  22:28:16  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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Whereas an honest drinker like Pwent relies only on his sheer bloody minded stubbornness and cast iron gut in order to survive his heavy duty drinking.

I wonder if Pwent was more of a happy drunk or an angry drunk?

I can see him taking a swing at the first person who looked at him crossed-eyed.

And I can also see him wrapping his arm around the first person to come along, and singing wondrous praises to friendship and old times.

"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
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Thauranil
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India
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Posted - 08 Jun 2012 :  09:52:23  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BEAST

quote:
Originally posted by Thauranil

Whereas an honest drinker like Pwent relies only on his sheer bloody minded stubbornness and cast iron gut in order to survive his heavy duty drinking.

I wonder if Pwent was more of a happy drunk or an angry drunk?

I can see him taking a swing at the first person who looked at him crossed-eyed.

And I can also see him wrapping his arm around the first person to come along, and singing wondrous praises to friendship and old times.


He would probably be likely to be both a happy and a belligerent drunk , often in the course of the same night.
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