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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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 Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 18:08:29
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In his neverending quest to scour darkness from the Realms, Kalen has taken his war on shadow to Facebook:
Kalen "Shadowbane" Dren
If you're a fan of Downshadow or its upcoming sequel Shadowbane, if you like dark vigilante paladins, or you'd like to support the ongoing cause of Helm in the Realms, check out that page and give it a like. The more patrons Kalen accumulates, the more effective he can be in the fight against evil.
Cheers
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 18:09:22
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 18:25:20
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That is a legitimate question, and one that comes up in Kalen's quest on a daily basis. 
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 21:42:48
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Originally posted by Erendriel Durothil
What does he define as evil? lol
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why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
Magister's GAmbit
http://steelfiredragon.deviantart.com/gallery/33539234 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 02:26:58
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Originally posted by Erendriel Durothil
What does he define as evil? lol
Similarly, I'd be keen to learn how Kalen defines the notion of "good."
That's always the more difficult side of the alignment-coin to properly define. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 17:15:35
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Erendriel Durothil
What does he define as evil? lol
Similarly, I'd be keen to learn how Kalen defines the notion of "good."
That's always the more difficult side of the alignment-coin to properly define.
His definition of good shifts as time passes, from a very black-and-white vigilante sort of perspective (good and evil exist and are clearly defined) to one that is more gray (actions are good or evil, people aren't inherently good or evil). He believes (at least at this point) that the ends justify the means, though there are certain lines he's hesitant to cross. Also, he's constantly walking a very fine line.
Not to give spoilers, but Kalen originally comes from a thief/cutthroat sort of background, and I think in his early career he would view what he did as a youth as definitely EVIL. As time passes, however, his perspective on his own background changes.
His evolving morality is one of the main themes of the series. You'll see the shift from Downshadow to Shadowbane, and it should come across very clearly in the third of the series, Eye of Justice (working title).
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 20:09:30
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and whatif shadowbane's sword is not the only sword that HElm placed his essence into??
lots of speculation one can do before the third comes out.....
on that speculation note, wonder hwhat would happen if all the blades came into one place... would such an event restore everwatchfull, the bastard sword of HElm.....
lots of speculation....
I blame Erik, for having such likable characters.
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why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
Magister's GAmbit
http://steelfiredragon.deviantart.com/gallery/33539234 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2011 : 01:29:44
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
His definition of good shifts as time passes, from a very black-and-white vigilante sort of perspective (good and evil exist and are clearly defined) to one that is more gray (actions are good or evil, people aren't inherently good or evil). He believes (at least at this point) that the ends justify the means, though there are certain lines he's hesitant to cross. Also, he's constantly walking a very fine line.
I can see a potential future where Kalen will undoubtedly be forced to consider the exact moral width of that line as his definition continues to shift.
And I particularly like the philosophically "gray" element he's taken. Now we're getting into explorations of Schopenhauer and Heidegger territory -- which makes me a very happy Sage! 
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2011 : 16:23:50
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Good questions, SFD. You'll just have to wait and see.
And Sage, I think I've already mentioned the Nietzschean philosophical element in Shadowbane, but if I haven't . . . there's a Nietzchean philosophical element in Shadowbane.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2011 : 16:54:51
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
And Sage, I think I've already mentioned the Nietzschean philosophical element in Shadowbane, but if I haven't . . . there's a Nietzchean philosophical element in Shadowbane.
Oh, yeah. It's what originally prompted me to reread Beyond Good and Evil.  |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2011 : 15:19:11
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Kalen now have 47 patrons on Facebook! Thanks guys for your help.
More sponsors are always needed to support the cause of justice. Tell your friends!
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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