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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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 Posted - 28 Jun 2011 : 20:02:24
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I know there used to be such a game, but it is long defunct.
I've found a tutorial to creating a roguelike and I'd maybe try my hand at it now that I've got hols.
Or maybe you know such a game/you'd try creating it?
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 29 Jun 2011 : 02:26:25
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2011 : 09:37:35
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If you mean 'what is a roguelike' then see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roguelike. Generally any computer can run them since they have little in the matter of graphics. They are often based on a simplified version of AD&D rules.
I don't know much in the way of programming but I've seen such games done within a week.
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What I'd want to see (or I'd try to do if there's no such game):
- AD&D simplified rules, at most rules like in Incursion (simplified 3.0 e SRD)
- random level generator (as in Angband, you get a random level every time you exit/enter the level)
- no surface level as in Angband
- no endgame (you don't search for an Amulet of Yendor or anything)
- score based on how deep you went before you died
- Upperdark, Middledark and Lowerdark (say, 30 levels each)
- races available: drow, duergar, svirfnebli, human, dwarf, grimlock
- classes available: fighter, mage, cleric, rogue (maybe some more)
- multiclassing if possible
- maybe templates (half-fiend, vampire)
- darkvision would be very important
- monsters flocking to a player holding a light source
- a sort of a outpost (shop, healing, etc.) could be on random levels but not in the Lowerdark
- typical Underdark monsters: rats, scorpions, spiders (in different sizes); rothe, dragons of different sizes and types, cloakers, hook horrors, pedipalpi, vermin, mind flayers, beholders, kuo-toan, basilisks, draegloths, vampires, myrlochars, yochlols, durzagons, cave fishers, slime, molds, fungi (including shrieker), orcs, goblins, kobolds, quaggoths, trogs, aboleths, chwidenchas, tanarruks
- patrols of drow/duergar/svirfnebli near outposts
- traps of different varieties
- being able to eat corpses like in NetHack
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Does such a game exist or do I have to try my hand at making one?
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SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
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Tyranthraxus
Senior Scribe
Netherlands
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Posted - 29 Jun 2011 : 21:44:42
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I've never heard of an Underdark Rogue version. Must have been a fan made game.
I've started learning programming a similar game in C++. Depending on what programming language you want to use I might help you a bit, but I have to admit programming isn't really my cup of tea. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2011 : 09:35:49
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I've seen a few more tutorials, so far nothing in C++.
I can see that it is possible to make a basic thing in 7 days (as someone did) having a complete tutorial.
Or maybe we could try making an Angband variant? That way most of the work would be cut out for us... dungeon generating for example. We'd just have to code in the new races and new monsters and remove some that do not exist in the Underdark.
EDIT: I'm wondering if we can edit monster.txt (contains information about monsters), p_race.txt (playable races) safely. We'd have to somehow remove Sauron, Thuringwethil, Morgoth and all other named monsters. If it could be done, we'd just have to edit those three files to have our Underdark variant.
EDIT 2: I found Angband forums, maybe I'd post there and people would help. What do you think?
EDIT 3: What language is NetHack written in? Is it C++, as in Angband? |
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Edited by - Zireael on 30 Jun 2011 18:30:28 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Tyranthraxus
Senior Scribe
Netherlands
423 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2011 : 02:33:16
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Originally posted by Zireael
I've found a tutorial for FreeBasic here: http://users.freebasic-portal.de/rdc/tutorials.html
I've had a little contact with C++ in the form of NWN 1 and 2 toolset - the scripts for NWN are C++
I can try finding a tutorial for C++...
How much do you have done?
I have found a C++ source code for a roguelike game. I forgot where I got it from though. I can send you the zip file if you like.
I've also done a bit of scripting for NWN1 back in the day. Little things like spawning a NPC after destroying a barrel and stuff like that.
The game I'm working on now is a 10 by 10 square grid. You start in a square and you have to find the exit square, the other squares all have effects like traps or give clues. So far I don't have much yet; an empty grid and the basic movement. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 Jul 2011 : 05:39:52
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Originally posted by Tyranthraxus
I have found a C++ source code for a roguelike game. I forgot where I got it from though. I can send you the zip file if you like.
Could you send my a copy also, Tyrant, if it's not too much trouble?  |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2011 : 07:45:22
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I think I'll make my roguelike an Angband variant. I'll head over to the Angband forums and ask around a bit. Changing monster and player races is the easiest, as I mentioned.
EDIT: I received help. I'll register at the Angband forums and keep you updated about the progress.
I'm away next week, so I'll really start working after I return. Now I'll just ask around on Angband forums. |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
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Edited by - Zireael on 01 Jul 2011 10:20:48 |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jul 2011 : 09:57:12
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I've already done the races.
I asked around a bit. What I'd need help with is incorporating some features of other variants into what will probably be a fork of NPPAngband.
Namely, the corpse eating bit from ZPlus for all characters, a form of innate abilities (possibly from ZPlus)...
Oh, just have a look at this thread: http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=4630.
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SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2011 : 09:06:18
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| I have some help. We've already done no lvl 0 and we're working on labeling the levels and some other things. |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2013 : 09:03:15
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... and then my free time died.
I'm hoping to restart this idea. |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 18 Jun 2013 : 18:47:53
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Cool! I'd actually been wondering what happened to this...
...says the master of partially-completed projects.   |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2013 : 05:06:27
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Originally posted by dazzlerdal
Things came unstuck somewhere around trying to devise a class (programming class) ...
There are already official d20 workings for something like this, which I've tweaked and tinkered with in the past to craft my own Computer Programmer PrC [which, interestingly enough, is attributed to the character described in my profile here at Candlekeep]. You might want to draw from previous examples to get some ideas about what you build into the class in terms of abilities and functions. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2013 : 20:00:49
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There exists a d20 roguelike (note, the rules are not 100% faithful to SRD) - link: http://www.incursion-roguelike.net/
I've had some more experience with programming after 2011 (modding Baldur's Gate and Naev) so I picked T-Engine (the one ToME is based on).
I've started programming the game today. I've got the chargen front mostly done, but I got stuck on getting the equipment to work.
Once I have the basics working, adding NPCs, items or talents (feats) is pretty much a breeze. The ToME community is very helpful, too, so I think I'll manage to achieve at least some of my goals.
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..says the master of partially-completed projects.
LOL. Many of my projects are partially-completed, too. That's one of those I really want to see finished. |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
http://zireael07.wordpress.com/ |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2013 : 18:18:15
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Okay, the project is underway!
And you can actually play the alpha builds.
Check out https://github.com/Zireael07/Underdark (you'll need to click the ZIP button, rename the .zip to .tome, put it in modules folder of your T-Engine) |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2013 : 08:45:02
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If you want to know how development is going, check out http://zireael07.wordpress.com/english/underdark-roguelike-wip-development/.
I also made a page on RogueBasin.
So glad this has gotten off.
EDIT: Now you can enjoy working feat select and lots of weapons and even faerzress!
EDIT 2: In preparation for incoming beta release, I've included the OGL and made a few edits.
Is 'faerzress' considered Project Identity or not? |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
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Edited by - Zireael on 13 Jul 2013 20:01:18 |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2013 : 09:17:56
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There have been three beta releases since I last posted here.
You can find them on Git or at te4.org.
Any comments?
EDIT:
The Veins of the Earth now has a page at ModDB: http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-veins-of-the-earth
Really, no interest? |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
http://zireael07.wordpress.com/ |
Edited by - Zireael on 09 Aug 2013 16:27:43 |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 03 Sep 2013 : 19:46:34
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We've reached beta 2.5, you can grab it from github or from ModDB.
EDIT: We're at beta 2.8 as of 16 September. |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
http://zireael07.wordpress.com/ |
Edited by - Zireael on 17 Sep 2013 16:24:11 |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2013 : 19:07:20
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We're at beta 3.25 (0.7.1) and development is still continuing in spite of me being back to university.
I codenamed this release "Christmas Tree" :) |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
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idilippy
Senior Scribe
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2013 : 15:09:02
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| I just downloaded the .7.1 but haven't had a lot of time to play with it or leave feedback. I'll try with .8.0 though! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2013 : 11:33:54
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| Beta 4 is now out, dubbed "Spells flying left and right". |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
http://zireael07.wordpress.com/ |
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Underdark-based roguelike?
