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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
 Posted - 24 Jun 2011 : 16:52:43
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Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2011 : 18:03:10
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Originally posted by Hawkins
Link.
Bill wasn’t laid off. He left for greener pastures.
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dragon/20110623ampersand
Don’t know about the other two.
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(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36797 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2011 : 18:06:31
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Before the WotC-bashing gets started... Have there been any confirmations of these rumored layoffs? And has the reasoning for Bill Slavicsek's departure been given?
I just want to make sure, before the "WotC is t3h evil!!!11BBQ" routine gets started up yet again, that we have more than rumors and assumptions.
Also, if there has been another round of layoffs, it's not necessarily indicative of problems at WotC. This could have been planned months ago or more, as business needs shifted -- not necessarily diminished, but shifted. WotC could be placing a greater emphasis on other areas, making these positions unneeded, for example, with plans to hire new people to fill new positions.
We need more info to know what's really going on, and unless one of these folks speaks out, I don't think that info will be forthcoming. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 24 Jun 2011 18:13:46 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36797 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2011 : 18:09:17
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Originally posted by Bakra
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins
Link.
Bill wasn’t laid off. He left for greener pastures.
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dragon/20110623ampersand
See, I'm not convinced, here. I'm not ready to assume he was laid off, because this blurb is vague enough that just about anything can be read into it. Maybe he's retiring. Maybe he's looking for greener pastures. Maybe WotC said "Clean out your desk" and he's too classy to fire a parting shot. Maybe he's got something else lined up already... It's too vague to be definitive. I need something more concrete. |
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Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 24 Jun 2011 18:14:22 |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2011 : 19:49:53
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But, but WotC bashing is so much fun!
It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside.
5E announcement next GENCON...
On a serious note. Maybe it was time for a change for Bill. Good luck Bill. Let the other forums spazz out. I can just imagine how the 4E General forums at the WotC Boards are taking this, should be fun... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2011 : 21:31:04
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| Paul S. Kemp also posted a comment on Facebook and Twitter calling it a lay-off. I am willing to believe that it may not be a lay off, but it would not surprise me in the least if it was. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
1814 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2011 : 21:47:46
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| I'm still trying to find out for sure if anyone besides Bill S. is leaving. Anybody know? |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2011 : 03:46:32
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The Thread in the 4E General Forums was fun and informative.
Monte Cook tweeted that Michele Cater and Steven Shubert were also let go. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4436 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2011 : 04:37:45
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Meh, people come and people go. Bill was one of the 4E originals and I don't think he was let go with bad-blood between him and WotC. At least, thats not what was stated by him in his farewell letter. He might want to do other things and if he's held by contract by WotC not too or to give more attention to 4E and D&D in genearl, he may not want to commit more to it.
As for the other two, I'm not too familiar with them so their passing goes with a *shrug and hardy fare-well!* |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2011 : 10:03:23
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BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36797 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2011 : 14:55:47
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Monte Cook tweeted that Michele Cater and Steven Shubert were also let go.
That's confirmation enough for me.
Two people being let go at the same time a third leaves makes me think three layoffs. No proof, obviously, but that's pushing it, for coincidence. |
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froglegg
Learned Scribe
317 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2011 : 17:27:44
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Count down till 5th edition begins now.
John |
Long live Alias and Dragonbait! Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb the Realms need you more then ever!
On my word as a sage nothing within these pages is false, but not all of it may prove to be true. - Elminster of Shadowdale
The Old Grey Box gets better with age! |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
4687 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2011 : 17:43:25
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Hey It is D&D, no longer any Edition, just the game will evolve.
Hey they did promise no more Editions that you might recall. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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froglegg
Learned Scribe
317 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2011 : 17:50:46
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Hey It is D&D, no longer any Edition, just the game will evolve.
Hey they did promise no more Editions that you might recall.
John |
Long live Alias and Dragonbait! Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb the Realms need you more then ever!
On my word as a sage nothing within these pages is false, but not all of it may prove to be true. - Elminster of Shadowdale
The Old Grey Box gets better with age! |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2011 : 02:23:29
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Monte Cook tweeted that Michele Cater and Steven Shubert were also let go.
That's confirmation enough for me.
Two people being let go at the same time a third leaves makes me think three layoffs. No proof, obviously, but that's pushing it, for coincidence.
From what I found out is that Bill and Michelle are married.
It also looks like the Paizo thread on this topic got closed.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2011 : 02:33:10
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Originally posted by Brimstone
It also looks like the Paizo thread on this topic got closed.
They do that when people start throwing personal insults around. Even when it's aimed at people who don't post there. |
There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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More WotC Layoffs =(
