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Dennis
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 Posted - 14 Jun 2011 : 07:01:50
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Toril being devoid of humans? That will never happen. |
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Sill Alias
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Kazakhstan
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Posted - 14 Jun 2011 : 07:24:18
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Yeah, as was said in Hokuto no Ken (Fist of the North Star):
...But humans survived.
That phrase makes it sound like they were vermin like roach to survive the nuclear war.
Ahem, sorry for off-topic. Moving on. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Jun 2011 : 08:00:15
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No, not roaches. That's Manshoon and his clones. Humans wouldn't be wiped out simply because WotC is not stupid. Most D&D fans' favored characters are humans. Even Drizzt's fans would eventually find it boring if he's stuck in drow society forever. |
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Kno
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 14 Jun 2011 : 10:24:45
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| Phaerimm are created from a most terrible magical curse, they don't worship gods, especially Mystra who is one of the Pentad |
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 14 Jun 2011 : 17:30:23
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Originally posted by Kno
Phaerimm are created from a most terrible magical curse, they don't worship gods, especially Mystra who is one of the Pentad
Since you're referencing the "Pentad" I think you're possibly mistaking the phaerimm for the sharn.
The phaerimm reproduce by laying eggs in their victims, and from their "thought speech" we were given insight into (in one of the novels, I forget which of the shadow novels) they do indeed have gods they worship. They're just different than the Faerun pantheon. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 14 Jun 2011 : 18:13:58
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
The reply of Ed in my opinion strengthened one of ideas: just because great deities favor humans as their worshipers, they still cannot be called human gods for that. If there were no humans, they would answer on other races' pleas if there was some other race without creator god/pantheon.
-Gond, a traditional Human deity, is sometimes counted in the Gnome Pantheon. Deities "migrating" like that is known to happen. And then, as was already mentioned, deities appearing to different races as one of their own, happens too. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 14 Jun 2011 : 19:08:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Eltheron
quote:
Originally posted by Kno
Phaerimm are created from a most terrible magical curse, they don't worship gods, especially Mystra who is one of the Pentad
Since you're referencing the "Pentad" I think you're possibly mistaking the phaerimm for the sharn.
Actually, I think there was no mistake. The sharn and the phaerimm are enemies, and the phaerimm are unlikely to knowingly worship one of their enemies' deities. |
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Jun 2011 : 01:58:52
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Eltheron
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Originally posted by Kno
Phaerimm are created from a most terrible magical curse, they don't worship gods, especially Mystra who is one of the Pentad
Since you're referencing the "Pentad" I think you're possibly mistaking the phaerimm for the sharn.
Actually, I think there was no mistake. The sharn and the phaerimm are enemies, and the phaerimm are unlikely to knowingly worship one of their enemies' deities.
Oh? Kno said they don't worship gods, and they have been referenced as having their own deities. In canon lore.
And what "magical curse", then, were the phaerimm "created from"?
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Jun 2011 : 02:09:06
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Perhaps that is one of those stories that THO
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Jun 2011 : 02:18:07
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Originally posted by althen artren
Perhaps that is one of those stories that THO
just mentioned in her post above.
THO said they do worship Mystra, but in a "very different way". Considering that the phaerimm do have their own deities, which aren't the Faerunian deities, it most likely means that Mystra has avatars in other pantheons (i.e. a phaerimm deity of magic).
So it's the same core deity, just not the same avatar/expression. the West knows her as Mystra, the phaerimm see her as something else. An "it" physically similar to themselves, perhaps.
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Kno
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Jun 2011 : 08:41:44
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| They do worship Mystra, feeding on magic, it's like the Holy Communion |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jun 2011 : 11:40:16
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I wonder if some of them are theurges? |
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Did the Phaerimm ever worship Mystra?
