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Galuf the Dwarf
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 25 May 2011 : 15:39:46
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I've been thinking about this for a while and decided to ask people about it: Has anyone really given any thought about having a character that was a half-orc or half-elf (or in 4th edition, half-eladrin, let's say) born and raised amongst an Uthgardt tribe?
Yes, this is partially inspired by Daelan Red Tiger from Neverwinter Nights, but I figured there may have been at least one player, or maybe even a designer or writer who has touched on this before. On the same token, yes I know about the article on Rask Urgek (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/cc/20010629a), but like I said, I only care for half-elves or half-orcs that are Uthgardt by blood.
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 25 May 2011 : 18:08:59
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-Oh, wow. Rask Urgek was in Son of Thunder. Didn't know WotC made up this article about him.
-In the aforementioned novel, there were numerous Elves living among the Tree Ghosts. No Half-Elves are mentioned specifically by name, but if you check the sources, specifically for the Tree Ghosts, you might find something. |
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Galuf the Dwarf
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 May 2011 : 16:33:53
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-In the aforementioned novel, there were numerous Elves living among the Tree Ghosts. No Half-Elves are mentioned specifically by name, but if you check the sources, specifically for the Tree Ghosts, you might find something.
Page 27 of Silver Marches maintains that said elves are Wood Elves, and consider Grandfather Tree just as sacred to them as do the Tree Ghost tribe. It is also mentioned that approximately 4% of the population of the Tree Ghost camp are half-elves. In that case, they could be half-wood elven members of the Tree Ghost tribe. |
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Snowblood
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Posted - 28 May 2011 : 04:55:43
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| so if we have a half-elf of orcish ancestry...does that mean its at war with itself? |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 28 May 2011 : 07:15:51
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Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
It is also mentioned that approximately 4% of the population of the Tree Ghost camp are half-elves. In that case, they could be half-wood elven members of the Tree Ghost tribe.
-Very certainly. Most Wood Elves that live amongst Humans are not the haughty variety that disdain Humans, so Human-Elf couplings could be very possible. |
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Galuf the Dwarf
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 29 May 2011 : 04:09:11
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Originally posted by Snowblood
so if we have a half-elf of orcish ancestry...does that mean its at war with itself?
I highly doubt that would happen, unless it's an arrangement between the a DM and a player they support.
Okay, so on that note, it seems like the most likely cases of half-elf or half-orc members of Uthgardt tribes would be the Tree Ghost and Black Lion tribes above all others, and maybe the Thunderbeast Tribe as well. Red Tiger Tribe, not so much (Daelan notwithstanding). Black Raven and Sky Pony tribes, definitely not. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 May 2011 : 04:23:28
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Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
...and maybe the Thunderbeast Tribe as well.
-For what it's worth, no Half-Elves are mentioned in Son of Thunder. Given their reaction to the Wood Elves living with the Tree Ghosts, I'd assume that there aren't. That's just reading into one specific author's depiction of the tribe, though, so it's definitley not authoritative or anything. |
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Saer Cormaeril
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 03 Jun 2011 : 03:56:39
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| Harvid Beornigarth was a half-orc Uthgardt. |
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Galuf the Dwarf
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 04 Jun 2011 : 04:39:28
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Originally posted by Saer Cormaeril
Harvid Beornigarth was a half-orc Uthgardt.
Oh, I thought he was a human Tundra Barbarian turned mercenary. Then again, I read Elfshadow about 5 years ago, so I'm drawing some blanks here and there.  |
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Saer Cormaeril
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 04 Jun 2011 : 05:29:04
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Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
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Originally posted by Saer Cormaeril
Harvid Beornigarth was a half-orc Uthgardt.
Oh, I thought he was a human Tundra Barbarian turned mercenary. Then again, I read Elfshadow about 5 years ago, so I'm drawing some blanks here and there.
I read it recently, and Cunningham doesnt make a clear distinction on his barbaric lineage, but indicates his orcish heritage in at least one passage.
I made the assumption that as a mercy in the North, it was a probability. |
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Edited by - Saer Cormaeril on 04 Jun 2011 05:30:25 |
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 04 Jun 2011 : 14:32:46
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This web article existed first -- I borrowed Rask for SoT with Jesse Decker's permission.
And yes, I would agree that the Tree Ghosts breeding with the wood elves is more than likely, but this one mark of the strangeness of this particular tribe.
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Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-Oh, wow. Rask Urgek was in Son of Thunder. Didn't know WotC made up this article about him.
-In the aforementioned novel, there were numerous Elves living among the Tree Ghosts. No Half-Elves are mentioned specifically by name, but if you check the sources, specifically for the Tree Ghosts, you might find something.
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Edited by - Murray Leeder on 04 Jun 2011 14:34:21 |
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