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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1732 Posts |
 Posted - 05 May 2011 : 16:43:20
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Forgive me, folks, for posting info on a non-Realms project, but as four of the five authors signed onto it already have fans here, I thought it worth mentioning.
I've started a kickstarter.com project to raise funds for the launch of a small publishing house and our first project: Secrets, like Dragons...
The five authors involved are Ed Greenwood, Jaleigh Johnson, Rosemary Jones, J.M. Martin, and myself.
To get to know Joe better (as the others have a presence here already), here's his fun read of a blog: http://ranting-and-raven.blogspot.com/
In a nutshell, I need to raise money to bring a 350+ page fantasy book to print and then build enough interest and sales to merit additional books or other projects. A lot of what I learned with the Realms informs this new world of KHARNDAM, and I hope to do there what TSR and WotC wouldn't allow me to do in FR products (fiction or games).
For more, click the link below, or simply ask questions after this post and I (or perhaps one of the other authors) will chime in and answer.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1136561409/secrets-like-dragonsare-tales-untold
Hope you all like what you see (even the nervous author/publisher who loathes being on camera) and you'll help us with moral or financial support in making this book and world come to life.
Steven Schend
Mod Edit: Shifted to a more appropriate shelf.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36971 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2011 : 17:29:39
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When I saw the title of this scroll, I thought it was going to be something like "Four out of five FR authors prefer Waterdeep Dark, the ale that gave the City of Splendors its name!" 
...Or, at the very least, "choose Jif!" |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1732 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2011 : 17:48:28
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
When I saw the title of this scroll, I thought it was going to be something like "Four out of five FR authors prefer Waterdeep Dark, the ale that gave the City of Splendors its name!"
...Or, at the very least, "choose Jif!"
I figured it might be a slightly more intriguing title to click on than the title of the project itself. 
Steven |
For current projects and general natter, see www.steveneschend.com
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2011 : 18:56:01
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Very Cool. I made my pledge....hopefully I can kick some more before it's done.
Thanks for sharing! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Thente Thunderspells
Seeker
USA
65 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2011 : 19:17:08
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Sweet!
I've always wanted to get in on the ground floor of something like this, only makes it sweeter with authors I like! :)
Pledge given... |
The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1732 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2011 : 21:59:43
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Thank you both, Walker & Thente, for your pledges and support. I'll have an update on the kickstarter site tomorrow (or Saturday at the latest) with some pictures of what the leather Akanri badges may look like, as they're still in prototype stages yet.
Steven |
For current projects and general natter, see www.steveneschend.com
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2011 : 22:03:42
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Steve,
Just wondering, why did you only give yourself a month to raise the funds?
Thanks,
Hawkins |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
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* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
2296 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2011 : 23:56:30
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| I'd love to pledge, but I have to turn every cent around as it is :( |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
4702 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2011 : 00:17:40
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*Blink* Only 10,000 USD ?
I could invest that in a heartbeat. Of course an investment at least has hopes of a return.
A Pretty Darn Funny is not worth that much. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2011 : 00:58:58
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Why, oh why... did I just have to buy a new monitor? Otherwise, I would've had enough gold pieces this month for the $750 pledge. 
But for more KHARNDAM, I'll make a pledge. Yes, indeed.  |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1732 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2011 : 15:01:44
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quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins
Steve,
Just wondering, why did you only give yourself a month to raise the funds?
Thanks,
Hawkins
I'd set it up with 40 days to raise the money based on the recommendations of the kickstarter folks themselves (who actually recommend 30 days or less).
Sure, it's a daunting time-frame, but adding time to the fund-raising pushes back the date when I can get the writers writing, artists drawing, etc.
I'm optimistic about the goals we've set for Vistag Media, and I hope we get the chance to pursue them this year. :)
Thanks for the question, Hawkins; anything else you'd like to know about the book et al?
Steven |
For current projects and general natter, see www.steveneschend.com
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2011 : 15:19:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
I'd set it up with 40 days to raise the money based on the recommendations of the kickstarter folks themselves (who actually recommend 30 days or less).
Sure, it's a daunting time-frame, but adding time to the fund-raising pushes back the date when I can get the writers writing, artists drawing, etc.
I'm optimistic about the goals we've set for Vistag Media, and I hope we get the chance to pursue them this year. :)
Thanks for the question, Hawkins; anything else you'd like to know about the book et al?
Steven
Nope, just trying to count my coppers to see if I can help. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1732 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2011 : 15:35:00
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Originally posted by Kentinal
*Blink* Only 10,000 USD ?
I could invest that in a heartbeat. Of course an investment at least has hopes of a return.
A Pretty Darn Funny is not worth that much.
Not quite sure I follow you here, Kentinal, in terms of relative worth (but then I'm a bit too close to it).
The immediate returns on the funding drive will be the first product as a PDF and POD trade paperback or hardcover, yes.
What's unstated at kickstarter is this: The follow-up returns on raising those funds will be at least two websites (vistagmedia.com and kharndam.com) with a lot of extra content and potential ways for people to interact with and help build more into the intellectual property.
I'm planning a number of things I won't detail yet until they're ready and I can implement them in full. What I want to do with Vistag & Kharndam are a number of things I've always been told I couldn't do in traditional publishing, but I still think they're viable ideas and I want to take them out for a spin.
But I won't be able to do much if any of my plans if the funding drive does not meet its goals.
The $14 pledge gets you
A) a limited edition PDF well in advance of market availability.
B) It also gives you status and bragging rights as a founding patron of Vistag Media (which mean little now, but hopefully they'll mean something soon).
C) I also plan to garner early patrons special status on any forums or boards or social media we establish via vistagmedia.com or kharndam.com (like Paizo does for its subscribers on its boards).
D) I respect and enjoy feedback from everyone and anyone who's bothered to read anything I've worked on in the past and now. By helping me build a new publishing house, each patron will have my immediate ear when they have ideas and comments and questions about our products and properties.
Don't know if that makes any difference in terms of "worth" for pledges or not, but thanks for comments and making me clarify my thinking a bit.
Steven
who's fighting the impulse to say too much too soon, as he can't talk about a lot of things he's got up his sleeves...but knows that a few folks here at the keep will LOVE them..... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2011 : 15:45:29
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Originally posted by The Sage
But for more KHARNDAM, I'll make a pledge. Yes, indeed.
And it seems as though I'm having trouble accessing my account.
I'll try again on the morrow. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2011 : 15:59:28
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| Well, now that it is pay day again, I think I'll make a pledge as well. I am so tempted (and wish I had won the lottery) to do that one where I get to help develop a character... but.. a little too pricey for me! :) |
Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
4702 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2011 : 16:04:49
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Steven,
The amount of funding request appears to be small. I could provide 10,000 today as an investment.
When I refer to an investment it means I would expect to have some reasonable expectation of in the future that I would recoup the investment and some income as well.
What it appears you are offering is of far less value then what you ask for. Some of the items you offer are intangibles - like "status and bragging rights" - something I have no interest in. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2011 : 16:33:59
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
Steven
who's fighting the impulse to say too much too soon, as he can't talk about a lot of things he's got up his sleeves...but knows that a few folks here at the keep will LOVE them.....
Well I already $150 like what Ive heard.....maybe if I "hear" more....I might like it more?? |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2011 : 18:02:15
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Steven,
The amount of funding request appears to be small. I could provide 10,000 today as an investment.
When I refer to an investment it means I would expect to have some reasonable expectation of in the future that I would recoup the investment and some income as well.
What it appears you are offering is of far less value then what you ask for. Some of the items you offer are intangibles - like "status and bragging rights" - something I have no interest in.
As I understand it Kentinal, that is not how Kickstarter works. quote:
Originally posted on Kickstarter FAQ
Why do people support projects?
REWARDS! Project creators inspire people to open their wallets by offering smart, fun, and tangible rewards (products, benefits, and experiences).
STORIES! Kickstarter projects are efforts by real people to do something they love, something fun, or at least something of note. These stories unfold through blog posts, pics, and videos as people bring their ideas to life. Take a peek around the site and see what we're talking about. Stories abound.
The patrons pledge money, they don't purchase stock in the projects. My point is that this is not that maybe this is not the funding model you would use, but it is the model that Steven has chosen. If you don't like the model, don't pledge. However, with the names attached to this product, I think there is a good chance it will take off. And if you are looking for some sort of legacy out of pledging money and you can afford it, I think the $500 amount (unfortunately, not something I can afford) is the best since you actually get to design a character like Elminster who is a permanent part of the universe that the authors are creating.
EDIT: Corrected a little formatting and removed redundancy. |
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2011 : 06:08:25
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The system is not like making an investment, but perhaps more like Open Design's patronage method or even more precisely a simple donation to an art project.
I've encountered such projects brought up on other forums. I kept an eye on these now and again. This is the first one that is not only ambitious but seems thought out and more importantly has an abundance of talent and experience involved.
The names involved caught my attention, the book trailer sold me. |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1732 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2011 : 14:03:25
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Many thanks, Dark Wizard, for your comments and support.
I'm glad to hear the trailer worked (as I'd been thinking of tinkering with it and changing some things before porting it (without the kickstarter sales pitch video) to my blog and the still-under-construction kharndam.com. Some folks had sent email saying the trailer needed a voice-over reading the text to help those who can't read the text quickly enough, while others wanted more punchy music/soundtrack. Opinions?
I have to say that you folks are amazing and wondrous with your support and pledges; we've seen a surge of pledges in the past two days that have pushed us past 1/3 of our fund-raising goal! Thanks to all of you who've pledged (and those who're just sending their moral support so far)!
Now to go scribble a blog post at steveneschend.com to continue sending out praise and heartfelt thanks for all who are supporting the project with their time, attention, and money.
And please, please keep asking questions herein, if you're still curious but on the fence and wondering if this is something that'll appeal to you. I'm trying to find time to get more material onto my sites, but it all takes time...and with a little boy nearly ready to walk, I'm afraid even my most pressing work deadline gets set aside for playtime with Oscar. :)
Steven |
For current projects and general natter, see www.steveneschend.com
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2011 : 21:45:52
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Definitely put the book trailer on to the Kharndam site as soon as possible, it would make the perfect placeholder page until the full site is up. Get both the trailer and your pitch (separately) on your site. Aside from the trailer, the Kharndam site should probably have a fitting visual theme even if it is not the final design. There needs to be something appropriate there, something to signal this is on the verge of realization.
The participating authors should at least link to the trailer and site (both Kharndam and kickstarter). If they can directly embed the trailer, all the better. Eventually they can setup their own mini-pitch (how they came to the project or how the project approached them, what drew them to it, what do they hope to accomplish). In this way the writers can contribute a behind the scenes peek without giving away any secrets or project details.
The trailer itself I thought was professional. It had the right look. The gradual unveiling of text built up the question and answer format. It made me wonder what the world is about. I liked the combination of voiceless words set to images and atmospheric music. It creates a sense of the unknown. I’m not sure if a voice over would enhance that effect. It would have to be a particular voice, one as atmospheric as the rest of the trailer. I found the music adequate, but perhaps something with a bit more swell could help the trailer’s flow.
Half the allotted time for the fund raising has passed. Now is probably the time for a steady stream of updates (across all the channels you’ve posted to, Candlekeep, Paizo, etc.), teasers, and maybe some author interviews and pitches. I’m not sure where else it is posted to and unfortunately not all sites, especially commercial sites, would allow this. It would be great if this project got on to some kind of high-traffic blog related to the fantasy genre or small-press/new-press publishing.
Also, something I realized when backing the project, the funds will not be charged until the Kickstarter due date, which is over two weeks away. This allows ample opportunity to back the project and plan the financials accordingly.
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1732 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2011 : 16:10:13
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quote:
Originally posted by Dark Wizard
Definitely put the book trailer on to the Kharndam site as soon as possible, it would make the perfect placeholder page until the full site is up. Get both the trailer and your pitch (separately) on your site. Aside from the trailer, the Kharndam site should probably have a fitting visual theme even if it is not the final design. There needs to be something appropriate there, something to signal this is on the verge of realization.
Thanks for the advice; I've been scrambling on about seven different things that all need to be done ASAP and there's only so much time I can spare away from my son. Still, tonight will be seeing some changes and updates to the project at kickstarter.com and kharndam.com (if the gods and muses are all aligned and with, not against, me).
As for visual theme, I'm doing what I can with themes and whatnot and trying to prevent the problems that crashed and burned steveneschend.com in 2009/2010. Still, as my artistic abilities are akin to Stick Figure Theater, I'm working what angles I can to get some visuals up soon, but that's tricky when I want to pay pro rates for work without money yet in the till to do so.
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The participating authors should at least link to the trailer and site (both Kharndam and kickstarter). If they can directly embed the trailer, all the better. Eventually they can setup their own mini-pitch (how they came to the project or how the project approached them, what drew them to it, what do they hope to accomplish). In this way the writers can contribute a behind the scenes peek without giving away any secrets or project details.
The trailer itself I thought was professional. It had the right look. The gradual unveiling of text built up the question and answer format. It made me wonder what the world is about. I liked the combination of voiceless words set to images and atmospheric music. It creates a sense of the unknown. I'm not sure if a voice over would enhance that effect. It would have to be a particular voice, one as atmospheric as the rest of the trailer. I found the music adequate, but perhaps something with a bit more swell could help the trailer's flow.
Half the allotted time for the fund raising has passed. Now is probably the time for a steady stream of updates (across all the channels you've posted to, Candlekeep, Paizo, etc.), teasers, and maybe some author interviews and pitches. I'm not sure where else it is posted to and unfortunately not all sites, especially commercial sites, would allow this. It would be great if this project got on to some kind of high-traffic blog related to the fantasy genre or small-press/new-press publishing.
Also, something I realized when backing the project, the funds will not be charged until the Kickstarter due date, which is over two weeks away. This allows ample opportunity to back the project and plan the financials accordingly.
Again, thanks for all the ideas and suggestions; I've been planning and hoping to implement a number of them already, but what I lack is time and more than one of me. Still, you'll be seeing a bit more web presence from me here, there, and everywhere beating the drums for the project.
Whether or not the funding drive succeeds, I'm profoundly grateful for the support and encouragement I've found among you folks here at the keep.
Now, I must away and pound the keyboard for a few guest-posts on blogs a lot more popular than my own. (And on that note, I'd love for any and all to stop on by my website and just say howdy. I'm starting to think there's something preventing folks from commenting on anything therein.....)
Steven |
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Thente Thunderspells
Seeker
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Posted - 13 May 2011 : 16:57:25
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Let's get this project funded Keepers! Help some artists live free of the WotC creative control for a time!
I for one am looking forward to reading some stories in this world from these authors.
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2011 : 15:29:38
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| Almost half way there Ask your neighbors and friends! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 18 May 2011 : 18:53:44
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Almost half way there Ask your neighbors and friends!
I've done a lot of that and moreso; I'll be sending out a few updates and blog posts this week with more info and sneak peeks in hopes of making it to 100% within 11 days.
Still, thank you very much for all the support and comments and advice here at the Keep. I'm grateful beyond words that so many folks trust in me and my co-authors to bid on a project sight unseen...though hopefully I'll have more images soon for steveneschend.com or kharndam.com (and link back to kickstarter.com as well).
Steven
who's feeling every day of his 44 years today after his birthday yesterday....but still smiling.. |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1732 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2011 : 18:42:43
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Query: If I were building a fan/reader/participant-oriented online community around Kharndam and/or the Akanri, what sorts of things would you all be expecting of it?
Feel free to be as pie-in-the-sky as you like; I know my planning and hopes are up there, but I'm going to have to wait until my grasp of the tech is there.
Steven
who hopes that he can eventually build his websites into something really special...but he's still fighting with WordPress to get it to do what he needs, let alone wants.... |
For current projects and general natter, see www.steveneschend.com
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2011 : 16:58:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
Query: If I were building a fan/reader/participant-oriented online community around Kharndam and/or the Akanri, what sorts of things would you all be expecting of it?
Essentially, I'd be looking for material about the places and peoples of Kharndam, sections on the site where readers can exchange ideas about the material and homebrew stuff for potential RPG/campaign use, and the opportunity to ping you with official/canon questions about stuff we may not already be aware of from our readings.
Basically, a format similar to Candlekeep, really.
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Feel free to be as pie-in-the-sky as you like; I know my planning and hopes are up there, but I'm going to have to wait until my grasp of the tech is there.
My offer to pitch in with an assist [where and when I can] for the tech, is still on the table, friend Steven. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Four out of five FR authors...
