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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 05 Nov 2003 : 23:27:33
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Rumor has it, over at EnWorld.org and on the WotC boards, that there is to be a new Waterdeep sourcebook released next year ::drool::
This will likely to coincide with Waterdeep novel being written by Ed Greenwood and Elaine Cunningham ::drool beginning to run down chin::
Snippet from EnWorld:
During the Underdark chat that I ran a few weeks ago Rich [Baker] said that Skullport wasn't more then mentioned becasuse it will be included in the Waterdeep Book. So Waterdeep won't be Waterdeep/Undermountain. It's going to be Waterdeep/Skullport + surrounding environs (farm communities and such that feed the city), possibly mentions of the sea elf town in Waterdeep's harbor. (Most of this is my assumption, because it does sound as if Waterdeep is getting its own book, assuming it's going to be a normal size, 192 pages like others, we need to wonder what else is in it.) Perhaps the highest levels of Undermountain would be in it but that's it.
Either way. Waterdeep is strongly rumored for '04.
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Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 05 Nov 2003 : 23:51:34
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| *drools* Oooh. Sounds good. This would be very useful, and the novel seems good.*snaps out of trance*Sorry, the news turned my brain to mush. *drools again.* |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 Nov 2003 : 23:52:43
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Next year,I have till next year.*Runs to piggy bank and breaks it,an I.O.U falls out but other wise its empty*Nooooooo,I must have it!Waterdeeeeeep!!!!! 
I can't wait,thanks for the news Rad. |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Nov 2003 : 03:32:36
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(Runs over to the room, mop bucket in hand, glares at the six inches of drool on the floor)
You people simply must control your bodily fluids.... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2003 : 06:09:15
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Originally posted by Rad
Rumor has it, over at EnWorld.org and on the WotC boards, that there is to be a new Waterdeep sourcebook released next year ::drool::
That's 05 that the novel and the sourcebook will come out. Not 04. Put the drool on hold as you have a bit of a wait. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2003 : 06:20:55
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| Oh, fine then.*Stops drooling.* |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 06 Nov 2003 : 07:10:35
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Yes, I had read about this earlier yesterday from EN World as well. It's a shame that Undermountain won't be included, but there is enough 2e material to cover that area until something is published about in 3e.
I'm a little suprised they included Skullport, I really thought it deserved it's own tome...
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2003 : 16:10:39
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Originally posted by Arivia
Oh, fine then.*Stops drooling.*
I know..believe me I know. I want the book this coming year, not 05. I mean it's Cunningham, Greenwood, and Waterdeep so it's going to be great. Plus, it has Elaith.  |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2003 : 16:12:07
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
Yes, I had read about this earlier yesterday from EN World as well. It's a shame that Undermountain won't be included, but there is enough 2e material to cover that area until something is published about in 3e.
I wonder if the decision not to include Undermountain was based on the no-adventures stance that WOTC has apparently taken after City of the Spider Queen. A pity if so. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2003 : 17:31:48
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Rad
Rumor has it, over at EnWorld.org and on the WotC boards, that there is to be a new Waterdeep sourcebook released next year ::drool::
That's 05 that the novel and the sourcebook will come out. Not 04. Put the drool on hold as you have a bit of a wait.
 Hey, Shatterer of Dreams  The post on EnWorld said its looking good for 2004, i may have missed something as I only glanced briefly at the site, was there any further information over at the WotC boards? can you post if here if you have it. Thanks.
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Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Nov 2003 : 17:32:53
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
Yes, I had read about this earlier yesterday from EN World as well. It's a shame that Undermountain won't be included, but there is enough 2e material to cover that area until something is published about in 3e.
I'm a little suprised they included Skullport, I really thought it deserved it's own tome...
Shame on you, Sage  You should report straight back here with such valuable news! |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2003 : 06:15:32
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Originally posted by Rad
Hey, Shatterer of Dreams The post on EnWorld said its looking good for 2004, i may have missed something as I only glanced briefly at the site, was there any further information over at the WotC boards? can you post if here if you have it. Thanks.
The following comes from ENWorld's Wednesday, November 05, 2003 news located at http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/news/modules.php?op=modload&name=ENNews&file=index&newsdate=2003-11-05
Rich Baker has confirmed that the Waterdeep setting book is on WotC's schedule for 2005 (not 2004). Thanks to ArthurQ for the scoop. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2003 : 13:42:52
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| I'm a HUGE fan of waterdeep. My first campaign as a player where set in Waterdeep... haaaa i was young... the guards still remember me |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Maecenus of Westgate
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Nov 2003 : 15:57:29
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
Yes, I had read about this earlier yesterday from EN World as well. It's a shame that Undermountain won't be included, but there is enough 2e material to cover that area until something is published about in 3e.
I wonder if the decision not to include Undermountain was based on the no-adventures stance that WOTC has apparently taken after City of the Spider Queen. A pity if so.
What is this about the "no-adventures" stance you mentioned? Is there an official announcement about this somewhere? |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 11 Nov 2003 : 16:32:06
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Originally posted by Maecenus of Westgate
What is this about the "no-adventures" stance you mentioned? Is there an official announcement about this somewhere?
I'm trying to think of where I heard it. I believe it was in the "Ask Richard Baker" thread on the WOTC board. From hearing D20 publishers in various chats or interviews such as at Mortality.net, they have expressed a near identical stance when it comes to publishing adventures.
Apparently tailored made adventures, especially ones set in a published world like FR, do not sell as well as the Crunch books. Thus, publishers are less inclined to publish adventures. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 11 Nov 2003 : 18:22:54
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Maecenus of Westgate
What is this about the "no-adventures" stance you mentioned? Is there an official announcement about this somewhere?
I'm trying to think of where I heard it. I believe it was in the "Ask Richard Baker" thread on the WOTC board. From hearing D20 publishers in various chats or interviews such as at Mortality.net, they have expressed a near identical stance when it comes to publishing adventures.
Apparently tailored made adventures, especially ones set in a published world like FR, do not sell as well as the Crunch books. Thus, publishers are less inclined to publish adventures.
It wasn't in Richard's thread the last time I read it in its entirety(about a week ago.). |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Nov 2003 : 06:24:15
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Originally posted by Arivia
It wasn't in Richard's thread the last time I read it in its entirety(about a week ago.).
If you're admitting you read the lengthy 26 page post full of some very insightful comments from Mr. Baker and numerous ramblings from people who constantly drift off topic, I bow to your memory and inner fortitude. Although that might be a good place for anyone wishing clarification on the future of adventures being published in the FR setting. |
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Thysl
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 12 Nov 2003 : 08:16:07
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I have heard the same information, Sirius. It's a petty that City of the Spider Queen did badly, but it seems that WotC saying that they will never produce more FR adventures is not good for consumer morale, but what do I know? (admittedly nothing about marketing)
I've also heard said that the RPGA is printing a grip of low-level FR adventures from their archives. This could be good. The Living Grayhawk adventures from the RPGA are well done; they're not 'player killers' but are certainly challenging.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Nov 2003 : 15:31:16
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Originally posted by Thysl
I have heard the same information, Sirius. It's a petty that City of the Spider Queen did badly, but it seems that WotC saying that they will never produce more FR adventures is not good for consumer morale, but what do I know? (admittedly nothing about marketing)
I've also heard said that the RPGA is printing a grip of low-level FR adventures from their archives. This could be good. The Living Grayhawk adventures from the RPGA are well done; they're not 'player killers' but are certainly challenging.
Well, I think WOTC stating that they will never publish adventures again should be taken as just a decision that will impact the next year or so of products. The way the wind changes in gaming, that decision could be reversed, edited, expanded, etc. I didn't realize they had said never...just not in the foreseeable future or some ambigious talk that only a suit is good at dishing out.
Strange how a module that won an Origins award and was so crunchy it went off the Richter scale for the Crunch factor apparently didn't do so well. I didn't like the module myself, but it has more than its share of fans. So strange.
I had heard about the RPGA adventures. I guess that combined with any Dungeon modules geared to FR is considered enough. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 12 Nov 2003 : 15:32:19
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| Additionally, the chat that is mentioned at the top of this thread for the Underdark is not posted on the ENWorld messageboard. |
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qstor
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 May 2004 : 20:45:49
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The RPGA might have plans to print the adventures from their Green Regent series of modules. A copy of one of the modules was sent to RPGA members.
Not 100% sure about printing the modules though..
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