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Thauranil
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Posted - 17 Oct 2012 :  13:09:47  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message
quote:
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A good novel of his to start you off is Night of Knives, its interesting and short so you dont have to read a thousand odd pages to find out whether this author is for you.
I'll check it out later in my local bookstore. Thanks.

Did Ian use some of Erikson's characters, or just created his own?
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Some of the older characters are indeed present, for example Night of Knives features both the Emperor and Dancer but he mostly focuses on newer characters or ones that were just marginally important in earlier books such as Greymane.
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Dennis
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Posted - 17 Oct 2012 :  13:45:04  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

I see. Thanks. Already bought a trade paperback copy earlier. No hardbound, unfortunately.

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Thauranil
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Posted - 17 Oct 2012 :  13:51:12  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message
Yeah I have a paper back as well but then I am running pretty low on space for storage in my house anyway so perhaps its time i started avoiding hardcovers.
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Dennis
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Posted - 17 Oct 2012 :  14:13:17  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

The books that I really like, I tend to reread a lot of times. If it's paperback, the spine gets so many "wrinkles" that the title could hardly be deciphered. So as much as possible, I purchase hardbound. [Fortunately, I need not worry about space. My personal library is relatively big, and the adjacent guest room (one of the four) can serve as 'backup,' so when I have to, I'll just annex it.]

Anyway, is Ian's style sort of similar to Erikson's? Does he just introduce characters out of nowhere and have them in the thick of the battle without 'proper' introduction? Does he philosophize a lot, too?

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 17 Oct 2012 :  16:58:23  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message
Finished the 5th and final book of Conn Iggulden's Conqueror series. This entire series was utterly fantastic and I can't recommend it enough for those who enjoy historical fiction and military history. The only thing I did not like was that the author left we wanting another book or 2 to continue to tale. One thing I really enjoyed was that the author took about 10 pages (in each book) after the story ended to discuss historical notes about what was happening. Each book of this series was just as powerful as the first which I rarely find in the series I read. I will definitely read Conn Iggulden's Emperor series (about Caesar) in the near future.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 17 Oct 2012 :  19:41:37  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message
Started Fritz Leiber's Swords in the Mist while I think of the next big book to dive into.

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Posted - 18 Oct 2012 :  02:56:12  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
Hoping to finish up The Second Generation this evening.

Not sure what I'll be reading next...

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 18 Oct 2012 :  15:16:47  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Hoping to finish up The Second Generation this evening.

Not sure what I'll be reading next...



You should pick up a copy of Genghis: Birth of an Empire by Conn Iggulden!

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Posted - 18 Oct 2012 :  16:04:49  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Hoping to finish up The Second Generation this evening.

Not sure what I'll be reading next...



You should pick up a copy of Genghis: Birth of an Empire by Conn Iggulden!

I've been trying to find copies at my local book store, though I haven't been having much in the way of luck.

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The Sage
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I've decided to work through my comic book backlog, so I've picked up my copy of Marvel's Essential Warlock Vol. 1, which collects most of Adam Warlock's earliest tales.

And my e-reading has now focused on PATHFINDER's Dwarves of Golarion.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 19 Oct 2012 :  16:36:22  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message
Reading Shadow Prowler by Russian author Alexey Pehov. I am about halfway through and it's enjoyable so far, especially if you like reading about thieves and magic. This book has been translated from Russian, so I'm not sure what has be altered from the author's original version.

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Oct 2012 :  02:31:30  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
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Originally posted by The Sage

I've decided to work through my comic book backlog, so I've picked up my copy of Marvel's Essential Warlock Vol. 1, which collects most of Adam Warlock's earliest tales.

And my e-reading has now focused on PATHFINDER's Dwarves of Golarion.

I'm also reading the old 3e OGL Warcraft: Magic and Mayhem supplement, DRAGON #304, and Star Trek: Titan -- Orion's Hounds, which kind of carries on the story about the original Farpoint alien entities from TNG's pilot episode.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 22 Oct 2012 :  16:11:14  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message
Finished reading Alexey Pehov's Shadow Prowler. The book started out decently but went downhill from there. There was minimal character development, poor world-building, lackluster setting descriptions, and weird racial traits (like elves having vampire teeth). I gave this book 2 out of 5 stars on Goodreads because I was feeling generous. I believe this is the first book of a trilogy but I will not continue with the rest of the series.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 22 Oct 2012 :  17:07:17  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message
Started Gail Z Martin's The Sworn. This is book 1 of the Fallen Kings Cycle which is a 2 book follow up series for her wildy entertaining Chronicles of the Necromaner series. I would have started this series a few months ago because I thought it was a trilogy and I was waiting for the release of the third book so I could read them straight through. I found out it was only a 2 book series so the joke is on me.

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Dennis
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 :  01:33:37  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message

Re-reading The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss, partly for the fun of it, and partly for some research. In my humblest opinion, it has everything a fantasy reader could ask and hope for. It's one of those books that very much deserved the kind of hype it received.

[I bought the first paperback edition by DAW, but so many friends borrowed it and the spine now has too many horrible wrinkles. So I bought another, but this time the UK edition printed by Gollancz. The cover's good, but not as 'mysterious-good' as the original. Which is odd, really, since most UK edition cover art tend to be better, like The Mistborn series.]

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 :  04:30:34  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
I'm about halfway thru The Two Towers, myself. Maybe a little more than half -- just a few pages from where it shifts over to Sam and Frodo.

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The Sage
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 :  04:41:03  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
I'm nowhere near being done with my current reads, but I have been thinking about adding some classic H.G. Wells to my lots of books...

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 :  13:56:43  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message
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Originally posted by Dennis


Re-reading The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss, partly for the fun of it, and partly for some research. In my humblest opinion, it has everything a fantasy reader could ask and hope for. It's one of those books that very much deserved the kind of hype it received. When I finish, I will try to write two reviews: one with spoilers, and one without.

[I bought the first paperback edition by DAW, but so many friends borrowed it and the spine now has too many horrible wrinkles. So I bought another, but this time the UK edition printed by Gollancz. The cover's good, but not as 'mysterious-good' as the original. Which is odd, really, since most UK edition cover art tend to be better, like The Mistborn series.]



The Name of the Wind is on my imminent TO READ list.

*I totally agree that the UK versions of books tend to have better cover art.

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Dennis
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 :  14:44:49  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Re-reading The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss, partly for the fun of it, and partly for some research. In my humblest opinion, it has everything a fantasy reader could ask and hope for. It's one of those books that very much deserved the kind of hype it received.

[I bought the first paperback edition by DAW, but so many friends borrowed it and the spine now has too many horrible wrinkles. So I bought another, but this time the UK edition printed by Gollancz. The cover's good, but not as 'mysterious-good' as the original. Which is odd, really, since most UK edition cover art tend to be better, like The Mistborn series.]

The Name of the Wind is on my imminent TO READ list.

*I totally agree that the UK versions of books tend to have better cover art.
I understand that you tend to prefer 'gritty' fantasy. While there are some 'dark' moments, one can hardly call this book gritty. This is more like the adult version of Harry Potter, with a more annoying Snape and Draco Malfoy. The system of magic is quite interesting, with a subtle blend of science. And Kvothe is an awesome anti-hero.

Every beginning has an end.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 :  15:21:06  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Re-reading The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss, partly for the fun of it, and partly for some research. In my humblest opinion, it has everything a fantasy reader could ask and hope for. It's one of those books that very much deserved the kind of hype it received. When I finish, I will try to write two reviews: one with spoilers, and one without.

[I bought the first paperback edition by DAW, but so many friends borrowed it and the spine now has too many horrible wrinkles. So I bought another, but this time the UK edition printed by Gollancz. The cover's good, but not as 'mysterious-good' as the original. Which is odd, really, since most UK edition cover art tend to be better, like The Mistborn series.]



The Name of the Wind is on my imminent TO READ list.

*I totally agree that the UK versions of books tend to have better cover art.
I understand that you tend to prefer 'gritty' fantasy. While there are some 'dark' moments, one can hardly call this book gritty. This is more like the adult version of Harry Potter, with a more annoying Snape and Draco Malfoy. The system of magic is quite interesting, with a subtle blend of science. And Kvothe is an awesome anti-hero.



Gritty is definitely my favorite flavor of fantasy, but I do enjoy many other types as well.

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Thauranil
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 :  16:33:45  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message
For some reason I have been just sitting around reading Dilbert comics the whole day. I dont even like Dilbert that much being neither an engineer or being a wage slave. Though I have to admit some of it was pretty funny.
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Yoss
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 :  16:53:45  Show Profile Send Yoss a Private Message
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quote:
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I bought some books the other day.
Paul s kemp - Crosscurrent
Joe Abercrombie - the Blade Itself
And the Pete Townshend autobiography that just came out.

I started with Pete, for a non-fiction change-up. About halfway through. I blame it for making me make my partner at work listen to the Who all week...



The Blade Itself is the beginning of a truly awesome trilogy. Enjoy my friend!



Yeah, I figured I'd check it out after you'd mentioned it a couple weeks ago. A part of me wants to continue through the giant to read pile I've already amassed, especially since if I end up enjoying it I'll just have to go out and buy the other two (and probably before I read anything else, since I know how I tend to get about reading trilogies straight through rather than with other books in between). But I've come to accept the fact that I've never managed to get entirely caught up on a to-read pile in my life not for lack of trying, but because it's actually impossible. I'm never going to read faster than I am able to find books that sound interesting. And as long as I haven't read Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment, I'll never truly catch it up to at least the books ive added this decade...I've been meaning to read that for about 15 years now. I've read parts of it--some parts in English, some parts in Russian, but never finished the whole book. But I digress.

As it is, I should have picked up Riptide in the same trip. I haven't read a Kemp novel I haven't liked yet, and I'm going to be all cranky about starting another book til I've read that one as well. I'd just go ebook on it and be settled, since i'll probsbly finish Crosscurrent tonight at work, but my housemate wants to read them and paperback is just easier for that anyway.
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 :  17:21:31  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Yoss

quote:
Originally posted by Entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Yoss

I bought some books the other day.
Paul s kemp - Crosscurrent
Joe Abercrombie - the Blade Itself
And the Pete Townshend autobiography that just came out.

I started with Pete, for a non-fiction change-up. About halfway through. I blame it for making me make my partner at work listen to the Who all week...



The Blade Itself is the beginning of a truly awesome trilogy. Enjoy my friend!



Yeah, I figured I'd check it out after you'd mentioned it a couple weeks ago. A part of me wants to continue through the giant to read pile I've already amassed, especially since if I end up enjoying it I'll just have to go out and buy the other two (and probably before I read anything else, since I know how I tend to get about reading trilogies straight through rather than with other books in between). But I've come to accept the fact that I've never managed to get entirely caught up on a to-read pile in my life not for lack of trying, but because it's actually impossible. I'm never going to read faster than I am able to find books that sound interesting. And as long as I haven't read Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment, I'll never truly catch it up to at least the books ive added this decade...I've been meaning to read that for about 15 years now. I've read parts of it--some parts in English, some parts in Russian, but never finished the whole book. But I digress.

As it is, I should have picked up Riptide in the same trip. I haven't read a Kemp novel I haven't liked yet, and I'm going to be all cranky about starting another book til I've read that one as well. I'd just go ebook on it and be settled, since i'll probsbly finish Crosscurrent tonight at work, but my housemate wants to read them and paperback is just easier for that anyway.



Be sure to let me know what you think of The Blade Itself

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The setting didn't especially stand out, like say the Realms, Eberron or even the worlds of Deathgate. A year after having read The Blade Itself, the characters are still ingrained in my memory. That's Abercrombie's strength. Gritty is a good way to describe his style. Since my brick-and-mortar didn't have the other 2 novels in The First Law, I settled for Best Served Cold.

Monza is a great protagonist. I loved, loved Prince Ario's comeuppance. Everything from that section afterwards was funny, too.

I just finised A Cure for Cancer by Michael Moorcock. If you ever find yourself in a nihilistic turn of mind, read Jerry Cornelius.

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I finished Star Wars: Starfighters of Adumar a few days ago which finished up the older X-Wing books. Now I am reading the receent addition to the series, Mercy Kill. having read the whole series this way I think I prefer Aaron Allston's portions to Michael Stackpole's. Allston keeps it funny while still having the nerve to kill characters that have actually been reasonably established and that stay dead (with a handful of exceptions). I have the feeling that I am missing part of the story by having not read any of the Yhuzzan Vong war books as Mercy Kill talks about events during that period, but it isn't taking away from my enjoyment of the book. I hope this is the sign of more books about Wraith Squadron in the future.

After this I am not sure what I will be reading. I have about 60 Realms books that I own but haven't read yet, a few political books, and a few Star Wars books to work my way through. If I go with Realms books it will be some that are in series so either Elaine's Harper books or War of the Spider Queen most likely. Or I will begin the great E book experiment and try to read Shadowbane on my computer.

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I finished Star Wars: Starfighters of Adumar a few days ago which finished up the older X-Wing books.
I've never read any of the X-Wing tales aside from the old comic books published by Dark Horse. I loved those books!

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I finished Star Wars: Starfighters of Adumar a few days ago which finished up the older X-Wing books.
I've never read any of the X-Wing tales aside from the old comic books published by Dark Horse. I loved those books!


I need to track down the comics. I can tell there are gaps in the books and I believe the comics fill some of them in.

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From what I can recall, yes, some of the earlier comic books -- like Masquerade and The Warrior Princess -- do indeed take place between several of the novels. The later comic books, though, are kind of hard to place, chronologically, but that may be due to the fact that I haven't read the novels, so I might be missing something.

If you're interested in buying them, you might want to purchase the Omnibus editions Dark Horse released a few years ago. There's three volumes [here's an example of Volume Two] which each compile the entirety of the Rogue Squadron series published by the company.

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quote:
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I finished Star Wars: Starfighters of Adumar a few days ago which finished up the older X-Wing books.
I've never read any of the X-Wing tales aside from the old comic books published by Dark Horse. I loved those books!


You really should. Aaron Allstons Wraith Squadron is one of my favorite series in the Star Wars universe and as Tyrant said his writing is much better than Stackpole's so don't get put off by by the first few books in the series.
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Artemas Entreri
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Finished The Sworn by Gail Martin. It was enjoyable but not as much as the books from the first part of the series.

Now starting The Heroes by Joe Abercrombie. My brand new hardcover UK version of his latest Red Country should arrive any day now.

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