Poll Question:
Who Greatest Mage that ever lived in the Forgotten Realms? I know there is a similar thread, but it seems to only list living mages and it leaves some of the most powerful mages out...
Which fictional character was greater than all these other fictional characters?
Pug.
There's something to be said for this. There aren't many fantasy wizards who can create the equivalent of a Gate spell big enough to fit a fair chunk of the moon in it. If the field is opened up to every fictional character ever, though, then Pug isn't particularly impressive.
"The Wild Mages I have met exhibit a startling disregard for common sense, and are often meddling with powers far beyond their own control." ~Volo "Not unlike a certain travelogue author with whom I am unfortunately acquainted." ~Elminster
Ioulam of course. How old is he? Over 4,000, he must have learnt a thing or two in that time.
Interesting I'm not fully aware of some of Ioulam's major accomplishments but apparently they warrant comparison to some of the others on the list who have confronted Gods and Demigods...
Perhaps someone should ask Ed ... no doubt he's come across a thousand minstrels who all sing some version of a song called The Greatest Mage Who Ever Lived.
Which fictional character was greater than all these other fictional characters?
Pug.
There's something to be said for this. There aren't many fantasy wizards who can create the equivalent of a Gate spell big enough to fit a fair chunk of the moon in it. If the field is opened up to every fictional character ever, though, then Pug isn't particularly impressive.
Don't take it too seriously. It's just my personal bias. Pug wrecked havoc in the arena of Kelewan's Emperor, teleported a huge chunk of the moon to smash the the Dasati's Dreadlord, could create "emergency" rifts between worlds in mere seconds, could journey back in time, countered the magical bridge of a hundred Panthatians, and disrupted Macros's foolish attempt at godhood. These are great achievements, indeed. However, I acknowledge that there are others outside Feist's Universe who've done equally lofty feats.
One can even say the Scarlet Witch is the greatest. And I might not argue with that. Altering the very fabric or reality is no minor feat.
quote:Originally posted by Dennis One can even say the Scarlet Witch is the greatest. And I might not argue with that. Altering the very fabric or reality is no minor feat.
Wanda? I'd go higher in the chain than that.
The Endless from Sandman. Lucifer Morningstar (and his brother Michael Demiurgos) from Lucifer. The Presence.
(Incidentally, check out Feist's latest novel - Kingdom Besieged - if you haven't already. It's an interesting read.)
"The Wild Mages I have met exhibit a startling disregard for common sense, and are often meddling with powers far beyond their own control." ~Volo "Not unlike a certain travelogue author with whom I am unfortunately acquainted." ~Elminster
It's been out in Australia for almost a month now. Several bookstores have it as well.
"The Wild Mages I have met exhibit a startling disregard for common sense, and are often meddling with powers far beyond their own control." ~Volo "Not unlike a certain travelogue author with whom I am unfortunately acquainted." ~Elminster
I am oft amazed at how many scribes seem unaware of Candlekeep's search genie or Active Topics.
[Edit: Why aren't Halaster, the Terraseer, and Telamont on the list this time around?]
I can answer about Halaster.. >.> it's because he doesn't belong on this list. XD
and a heart can only break so many times and I've been to hell and back so many times and I've seen folks walk away so many times but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself and a heart can only break so many times a heart can only break so many times
It's been out in Australia for almost a month now. Several bookstores have it as well.
Aye, pretty much. I haven't picked up my copy yet, because I'm short on gold pieces this month. So I'll probably wait until next month, or until the trade-paperback releases in Australia. Which will provide me with enough time to play catch up with Feist's past works anyway.
In fairness, he wasn't born on Toril, but he did make his name there in the Bloodstone lands. :) And later (or much earlier in one perspective, given the oddness of time travel) he did attempt to overthrow the Lady of Pain.
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I voted for the Srinshee. Why? She was Elminster's MENTOR, for starters. That gal's FORGOTTEN more about magic than many mages will learn in a hundred lifetimes! And she's done some pretty amazing things with her power- like keeping both herself and El alive after being blasted with magic that SHOULD have reduced half of Myth Drannor to dust. Though it was a toss-up between her and El himself. Not only has he hurled spells with the best of them, but he's managed to save a goddess of magic from death (by holding a major part of her essence during the ToT), and has almost single-handedly kept Cormyr and the Dales "safe" for centuries. Not to mention his relationships to several other Chosen.... Other mages may have performed loftier feats of magic, but how many of them have been LOVED by Mystra herself? Nope, can't think of any.... (Sammaster doesn't count- his relationship with her was rather one-sided...)
First of all I just want to say that I have chosen not to vote at this moment. The reason for this i s that by posting Mortal Azuth you kind of don’t have to post the others... For he became a god by his own power. Or more correctly it was due to the spell or spells he cast. So in other words... He IS the greatest mage that have been yet... by definition and by canon lore.
If you ask who we like then this thread actually has meaning, but ask who is the greatest... well ofc it’s the guy who became a god because of his power and knowledge and actions...
So in short and knowing that I’m a jerk for saying this... it’s a stupid question because it is Azuth... hands down. No question about it!!!
Personally like the Srinshee the most though!
Ps. I know again im a jerk, but if this post is about actual power, and not whom we like, then how can anyone have the nerv to say the Simbul. She is less powerful than Sammaster, who is less powerful than Telemond, who is less powerful than Elminster, who is less powerful than Larloch, who is less powerful than Ioulaum , who is less powerful than Karsus, who is less powerful than the Srinshee whos is less powerful than the firstmagister!!!
Its just such a useless post if ppl have no clue what they are talking about. Sorry to point that out! And the ranking of this list is made by what have been written in these hallowed halls and not by personal feelings!
Edited by - Nicolai Withander on 03 Jun 2011 02:07:56