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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 12 Mar 2011 : 21:27:09
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Mostly I want the main character or someone who is in the party. But others are fine too.
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2011 : 22:17:11
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As a rule, I wouldn't think Vampires travel well with living, breathing, people. Not for very long at any rate.
edit: Although, Christie Golden wrote a couple good books about the elven vampire, Jander Sunstar, who was a decent enough fellow. But Vampire members of an adventuring party?!? Unlikely. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 00:06:11
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| How is it unlikely? :P I mean, look at Genevieve Diuedonne from Warhammer. Hell, some of the party members could even give a little blood wilingly. |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 00:30:23
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I'd just assume stake one through the heart than travel with it. Who wants to travel at night all the time and guard an inanimate corpse during the day. And who's to say that thing is not going to fly into a frenzy the first time buckets of blood are spilled. I, for one, wouldn't turn my back. Remember these are EVIL creatures that prey on flesh-and-blood mortals.
edit: But I did just remember there was a Vampire that traveled with Jarlaxle, Bruenor and friends in Gauntylgrym. A few pages were devoted to this character though I'll be damned if i can remember it's name. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 00:37:42
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| Not all the protagonists in D&D novels are good aligned. Some are also members of "evil" races such as drow or shades. I wouldn't want a vamp in my party, though it's not impossible. Vampires feature prominently in all the Ravenloft novels, of course. Vampires in other D&D novles are basically just faceless undead obstacles. |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 00:46:57
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| Definitely not impossible, but I imagine that bloodsucking monster would just as happily dine on drow assassins and shade wizards as priests and paladins of goodly gods. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 00:53:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire
edit: Although, Christie Golden wrote a couple good books about the elven vampire, Jander Sunstar, who was a decent enough fellow. But Vampire members of an adventuring party?!? Unlikely.
The RAVENLOFT novel Vampire of the Mists features Jander Sunstar, an elven vampire who begins his journey in the Realms [specifically, Waterdeep], before being ferried by the Mists, to the Dread Domains.
Additionally, Jander's FR anthology appearances include:- "One Last Drink" from Realms of Valor, "The Quiet Place" from Realms of Magic, and "Blood Sport" from Realms of Infamy. |
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 02:37:27
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| Fellfire, why do you hate vampires so much? Vampires cam be of any alignment you know, thougj I prefer chaotic neutral to neutral evil ones. They can and won't hurtyou of you are on a party and are friends. |
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
1814 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 02:46:56
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| You like vampiric dragons? I've got one of those in my Year of Rogue Dragons trilogy. I've also got a vampire character in my Haunted Lands trilogy who gets a fair amount of attention. |
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 02:52:56
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
You like vampiric dragons? I've got one of those in my Year of Rogue Dragons trilogy. I've also got a vampire character in my Haunted Lands trilogy who gets a fair amount of attention.
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knew I could count on you!!!! :D Is that vampire character a main character? Oh, how is the Star Elf feat comming for you? |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 03:04:43
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So many novels about angels and vampires have been published in the last decade...and still counting. WotC already joined the trend by publishing that novel about angels and lovers [soon this year]. So I wouldn't be surprised if they'd published novels [in the near future] with vampires as central characters. |
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 03:15:06
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| But most of those books about vampires were gods awful. And I don't think I need to name the main one.... |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 03:44:25
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| I don't hate Vampires at all, usually after they're dead (for good) they give up some pretty good loot. I think they make great villains, but very poor PC's. In fact, I've been working on some of my own recently, if you hadn't noticed. But that is just my opinion and despite being the most important one to me, it is only that. Play your game in whatever way you enjoy, I do. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
1814 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 04:22:14
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| tradwitch1313: Depends on how you define a main character, I guess. In all honestly, I suppose I would say each is a prominent secondary character. |
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 04:34:26
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| :D Does it have vampire lore stuff in it too? |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 06:28:27
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| If you're asking about the vampire drake in YoRD, then the answer is no. Other than mentioning briefly a few details of his affliction, Brimstone ( the vampire smoke drake) is not really discussed much as a vampire. The only thing it really talks about with him is how he feeds and the fact that as an undead, he's immune to the Rage that afflicts living dragons. Mostly, he just travels with the party and does things to aid them. But no one really trusts him.... |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 06:58:52
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Richard Lee Byers
I've also got a vampire character in my Haunted Lands trilogy who gets a fair amount of attention.
Who, RLB? I don't recall any vampires in the trilogy ... except perhaps Tsagoth, though I consider him something entirely different. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 07:31:07
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Someone mention my name? |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
1714 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 08:23:33
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Originally posted by Fellfire
edit: But I did just remember there was a Vampire that traveled with Jarlaxle, Bruenor and friends in Gauntylgrym. A few pages were devoted to this character though I'll be damned if i can remember it's name.
Korvin Dor'crae.
Or Dork'cry, as I prefer to call him. 
And The Cleric Quintet, Book V: The Chaos Curse features a swarm of vamps as the baddies. |
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Acolyte
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Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 11:17:16
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Originally posted by Arik
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Richard Lee Byers
I've also got a vampire character in my Haunted Lands trilogy who gets a fair amount of attention.
Who, RLB? I don't recall any vampires in the trilogy ... except perhaps Tsagoth, though I consider him something entirely different.
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 12:35:39
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| I never understood how dragons become vampires. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 18:17:34
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| [facepalm] Oh yeah. Thanx, ile. |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2011 : 20:19:08
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I have to agree that vampires would not make a good addition to a party. Even if they want to be good, they have no control over the frenzy if they are injured or starving. No one would trust them. Perhaps if you had a party made entirely of vampires or the party didn't know they were vampires....
I don't particularly care for undead as characters. Villains, yes. I'm really fond of them after they are "dead" permanently.
I have been known to tolerate a dhampir or two though.... |
Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D
He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness. 
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 14 Mar 2011 : 05:50:56
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Brynweir — Nay, having the party unaware of the vampire among their number never works for long and always ends in problems. It's been tried in my games before, in Ravenloft no less ... the PC actually convinced the party to sleep during the day because in Ravenloft it's more dangerous at night, right? This would instantly fail if the party contains any sort of paladin, cleric, or necromancer.
NPC: "Hey, let's sneak away to those faraway rocks where I, uh, have something cool to show you."
Vamp PC: (thinking the would-be assailant will make a fine snack) "Why not? I'm gullible, let's go."
(the two characters sneak away)
NPC: (throws holy water into vamp's face, draws wooden stakes) "My family shall be avenged, vile murderer!"
Vamp PC: (screams incoherently while running back to party) "Acid! Burned with acid! He threw acid into my face!"
(party converges and thumps NPC ... they inspect the "acid", notice the victim's flesh is regenerating ... the truth comes out) |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 14 Mar 2011 : 10:11:04
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| One of the villains in the video game's novel adaptation of Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn is a Vampire |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 14 Mar 2011 : 10:38:58
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What about Realms of the Dead? IIRC it has a Vampire or three in it! |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 14 Mar 2011 : 21:58:39
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Any in particular, Bryn? (And just where IS that half-dead lady and her dad, anyway?!) I somehow keep expecting Laerrigan to come waltzing through the doors to examine this scroll....
Any particular what, Alystra? If you mean dhampirs I liked, yes Laerrigan was one. In novels I liked the Noble Dead series by Barb and JC Hendee. (or is is CJ? I always mess that one up) In time I might recall a few more. My brain is non-functional at the moment.
And Arik I agree on them not knowing not working. I know from experience that things can go horribly awry when the PC's find out...
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 00:44:13
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| They may be rather difficult to find nowadays, but some of the old World of Darkness/Whitewolf Vampire: The Masquerade novels were quite good. Especially the Clan books and a trilogy called Masque of the Red Death. I always keep my eyes open for them if I'm at the swap shop. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 00:53:56
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| An entire party of vampires could work. Though they'll eventually attract hunters and slayers, and of course suffer some significant vulnerabilities. It's hard to be a hero while you're killing paladins. |
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Zimme
Learned Scribe
Denmark
209 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 01:48:33
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| There should be some Ravenloft books about Vampires, Jander Sunstar as mentioned before(elven vampire), and of course the main head vampire of the setting Strahd Von Zarovich himself. Not sure about the titles of the books, and there may be more vampire books from that setting. |
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Any novels with vampire characters?
