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                | WeninSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 13 Jan 2011 :  22:59:47         
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           	| Reading this quarter's Kobold Quarterly had me thinking of some neat little magic items that would be nice flavor (pun intended) to the campaign, built off of prestidigitation or other such cantrips. 
 I was looking at pricing, and they just seem to high for such minor items.
 
 Self Cleaning cooking utensils
 Self cleaning hankie =)
 Food warming plate =)
 
 They appear that they'd be 2000 gp for a continous item.
 
 How would you price such things?
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                | KentinalGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 13 Jan 2011 :  23:05:48       
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                      | Buying toys becomes a matter of rarity and amount of resources available. I suppose 2000 not too high a price for "minor" items. Best advice however would be to look at magic creation rules, some 1st or perhaps even 0 level spells could make such items. |  
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                | WeninSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 13 Jan 2011 :  23:45:17       
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                      | I'll check to see the pricing on light pellets used by drow.  Don't recall if they were recreated in 3.5. 
 Other ideas:
 Pipe igniter
 Evercleaning dish towel
 Mug of cooling
 
 I'll need to find my old 1st Ed books to gander at the cantrips
 
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                      | Session Reports posted at RPG Geek.
 Stem the Tide Takes place in Mistledale.
 Dark Curtains - Takes place in the Savage North, starting in Nesmé. I wrapped my campaign into the Hoard of the Dragon Queen, but it takes place in 1372 DR.
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                | WeninSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Jan 2011 :  01:54:22       
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                      | Daylight Pellet Market Price 150gp
 Single Use Item
 3rd level spell
 5th level caster
 
 should be a 750gp item, but they divided it by 5?  Anyone know why?
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                      | Session Reports posted at RPG Geek.
 Stem the Tide Takes place in Mistledale.
 Dark Curtains - Takes place in the Savage North, starting in Nesmé. I wrapped my campaign into the Hoard of the Dragon Queen, but it takes place in 1372 DR.
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                | DiffanGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Jan 2011 :  02:16:25       
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                      | They have daylight pellets in the Magic Item Compendium. |  
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                | WeninSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Jan 2011 :  03:08:04       
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                      | Yeah the stats in the MIC are the same as the ones in the Drow of the Underdark. 
 But how did they justify the reduced cost?
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                      | Session Reports posted at RPG Geek.
 Stem the Tide Takes place in Mistledale.
 Dark Curtains - Takes place in the Savage North, starting in Nesmé. I wrapped my campaign into the Hoard of the Dragon Queen, but it takes place in 1372 DR.
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                | RhewtaniSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Jan 2011 :  19:30:20       
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                      | On a side note, the way to get the utensils down is to have them only clean themselves 3/day. |  
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                | Dalor DardenGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Jan 2011 :  21:05:52       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Wenin
 
 Daylight Pellet
 Market Price 150gp
 Single Use Item
 3rd level spell
 5th level caster
 
 should be a 750gp item, but they divided it by 5?  Anyone know why?
 
 
 
 Only a guess...perhaps since it is a one shot item?  I don't have my books in front of me, but I remember a one off item costing a LOT less...as to why arrows are so cheap.
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                | WeninSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Jan 2011 :  23:29:04       
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                      | @Rhew I had even thought to make them a 1/day item.  That would make for a 400gp item 200gp if I ruled that cantrips count as .5 spell levels. .5 x CL 1 x 2000gp / 5 x 1 use
 
 For the daylight pellet
 3 spell lvl x CL 5 x 50gp = 750gp
 
 
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                      | Session Reports posted at RPG Geek.
 Stem the Tide Takes place in Mistledale.
 Dark Curtains - Takes place in the Savage North, starting in Nesmé. I wrapped my campaign into the Hoard of the Dragon Queen, but it takes place in 1372 DR.
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                | WeninSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Jan 2011 :  23:32:48       
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                      | I suppose I'm spoiled by the everburning torch only costing 110gp each.  That spell is one that would have a significant impact on a person's life if they were to ever afford one.  A pot that cleaned itself once a day at a price of 400gp doesn't appear to be much of a deal. =) |  
                      | Session Reports posted at RPG Geek.
 Stem the Tide Takes place in Mistledale.
 Dark Curtains - Takes place in the Savage North, starting in Nesmé. I wrapped my campaign into the Hoard of the Dragon Queen, but it takes place in 1372 DR.
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                | Mr_MiscellanySenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 14 Jan 2011 :  23:41:26       
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                      | They may have just arbitrarily lowered the price, since the item(s) aren’t overpowered and can be useful to low level PCs. |  
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                | WeninSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 15 Jan 2011 :  00:33:05       
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                      | Ok, then I wouldn't feel bad cutting the price of these trinkets by 1/5 as well. =) |  
                      | Session Reports posted at RPG Geek.
 Stem the Tide Takes place in Mistledale.
 Dark Curtains - Takes place in the Savage North, starting in Nesmé. I wrapped my campaign into the Hoard of the Dragon Queen, but it takes place in 1372 DR.
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