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Alisttair
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 :  15:37:57  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Telamont travelling back in time to "correct" Karsus's folly?!



No, t'will be done by Karsus resurrected.

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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 :  15:47:37  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm fine with either. I'm interested in Karsus's "assessment" of Telamont, now that the Most High has grown much powerful since his apprenticeship to Karsus, and now that he claims to be ruler of the New Netheril.

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Elfinblade
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 :  17:31:04  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

I'm fine with either. I'm interested in Karsus's "assessment" of Telamont, now that the Most High has grown much powerful since his apprenticeship to Karsus, and now that he claims to be ruler of the New Netheril.



Telamont was an apprentice to Karsus? I do not recall reading that in my books. Although i loathe most of the whole return of the archwizards deal, i do have a slight interest in things Netherilian. Where is that reference taken from dennis?
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Dennis
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Maybe apprentice is not the most appropriate term, but Telamont, who was then known as Shadow, did study in Karsus' academy, and Karsus supported his research on the Demiplane of Shadow. Here's a bit of info from page 10 of Netheril: Empire of Magic:

A student in Karsus's academy for magical study, Shadow published
a highly criticized work on the planes. His work earned him
the enmity of the establishment, and he was sent into exile. All
study of demiplanes and quasiplanes was banned in several cities.
In Karsus, though, Shadow was asked to stay and continue his
studies; Karsus felt Shadow was onto something important.
Shadow invited other "underground" researchers to help him in his
investigation, and Karsus financed the whole operation. Eleven
years later, with permission from Karsus himself, Shadow published
another work, this time on the Demiplane of Shadow, entitled
Shadows: The Palpable Cohesion of Formless Corporeality.

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Elfinblade
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 :  17:59:37  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Maybe apprentice is not the most appropriate term, but Telamont, who was then known as Shadow, did study in Karsus' academy, and Karsus supported his research on the Demiplane of Shadow. Here's a bit of info from page 10 of Netheril: Empire of Magic:

A student in Karsus's academy for magical study, Shadow published
a highly criticized work on the planes. His work earned him
the enmity of the establishment, and he was sent into exile. All
study of demiplanes and quasiplanes was banned in several cities.
In Karsus, though, Shadow was asked to stay and continue his
studies; Karsus felt Shadow was onto something important.
Shadow invited other "underground" researchers to help him in his
investigation, and Karsus financed the whole operation. Eleven
years later, with permission from Karsus himself, Shadow published
another work, this time on the Demiplane of Shadow, entitled
Shadows: The Palpable Cohesion of Formless Corporeality.




Ah excellent! That is one of the sourcebooks i'm missing. Does it say if this Shadow character in fact were Telamont? Wonder why he was called Shadow anyway. They were all regular humans back then.
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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 :  18:09:09  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, it didn't mention his real name. But the Lords of Darkness states that Telamont was known thousands of years ago as Lord Shadow. No one donned that title except him during Karsus's time. Larloch had a title with a 'Shadow' in it---Shadow King, but I think that was already after the Fall.

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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 :  18:12:28  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And by the way, he was called Shadow simply because he's the only then who used shadow-magic.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 :  18:21:33  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Doesn't matter if Telamont was an apprentice of Karsus or not. Karsus was so far above and beyond such a puny manling as Telamont and the other Tanthuls, princes of Shade et al.

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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 :  20:56:12  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Telamont is far from puny. Though if he'd be compared to Karsus, that might be the case.

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Erdrick Stormedge
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 :  21:50:46  Show Profile  Visit Erdrick Stormedge's Homepage Send Erdrick Stormedge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nae. Shadow 'twas far more powerful than Karsus. After Shadow mastered heavy magick, he gave the results if his research to Karsus, for sagely review; with the caveat that the eldritch secrets that Lord Shadow had uncovered were too dangerous to use. Of course Karsus, in his folly, t'would ignore the Most High's warning...


quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

Doesn't matter if Telamont was an apprentice of Karsus or not. Karsus was so far above and beyond such a puny manling as Telamont and the other Tanthuls, princes of Shade et al.

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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 :  22:22:12  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't really care who's more powerful. I just want to read more about them in the novels. If not both, at least either.

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The Sage
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Okay, we really don't need to start pitching who is more powerful than who. Let's get back to the discussion at hand, eh?

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althen artren
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Posted - 19 Jan 2011 :  00:25:05  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Did I mention Myth Drannor? If I did, I'll mention it again. :)
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Dennis
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Posted - 19 Jan 2011 :  00:31:35  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, you did. Wasn't MD covered in The Last Mythal?

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Alisttair
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Posted - 19 Jan 2011 :  12:03:04  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heck, I'll throw it out there. Even MORE Waterdeep would not be a waste .

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 19 Jan 2011 :  19:43:16  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Yes, you did. Wasn't MD covered in The Last Mythal?



But that was well over 100 years ago....

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

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Dennis
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I've been thinking, instead of having only one nation, why not six or more? For the realm to be properly highlighted and given justice, I say each book featuring one realm shall be as thick as Ed and Elaine's City of Splendors. Wouldn't that be great?

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Edited by - Dennis on 23 Apr 2011 06:10:28
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