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Zireael
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 Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 17:19:14
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I need your input, rather urgently. Right now, the only things I listed are magical items. What else could Myth Drannor import & export?
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Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 17:48:30
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Food from Cormyr? Ed recently mentioned that Sembia and the Moonsea have imported food from Cormyr since those places can't feed themselves. If Myth Drannor was more or less open to all, it would follow that they'd need to import food and drink of the type most palatable to races other then elves.
The same might hold true for clothing and weapons of the type favorable to humans in Myth Drannor.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 18:16:22
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| I'd imagine that the City of Song would have a fair amount of musical business... |
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 18:26:00
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| I'd imagine they'd also be importing raw materials of some kinds. The city had a large number of artisans; coupled with the elven distaste of despoiling the local environment, it might make sense for them to import the raw materials from elsewhere and then export finished goods. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 18:46:14
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
I'd imagine they'd also be importing raw materials of some kinds. The city had a large number of artisans; coupled with the elven distaste of despoiling the local environment, it might make sense for them to import the raw materials from elsewhere and then export finished goods.
Raw materials like wood, right?
So that's: food, textiles, wood... anything else? |
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Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 19:20:42
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| Would the elves have allowed Myth Drannor to be a waypoint or stop for caravans traveling from Sembia to the Moonsea and vice versa (assuming such is a practical route)? If so, you could reliably assume that Myth Drannor had items within its borders that the people of that city might not have needed, but someone somewhere else did. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 19:40:03
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| Metals, too. I'd also guess other materials for art and jewellery, like gemstones, fine sand for being blown into glass, pigments and paints, etc. |
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Zireael
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 20:01:01
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Finished goods of all sorts. And remember that there would be far more than just your "traditional" elven goods. Forged works from the dwarves and gnomes, cut gems by the gnomes, carvings in various media by halflings, musical instruments of all sorts. Possibly clothing, though I'm less sure about that one.
Exactly how much trade was going on during Myth Drannor's later days has not, IIRC, ever been directly expressed. However, it's described as a vibrant city with a large craftsman population and numerous gates. It also has (officially, at least) a welcoming "foreign policy." I'd imagine there would be a great deal of trade going back and forth, with the only mitigating factor being the difficulty of movng goods through the woods without large roads or rivers. Of course, if you have access to a gate, things are completely different.
And you can add to your import list anything that can be used in magical spells, experimentation, or enchantment. With such a high number of wizards, the appetite for components would be voracious. |
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althen artren
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 21:11:55
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Magic items of a whimsical nature (water clocks that run backwards, toys that jump and turl by themselves, pipes that light themselves) Mages often left to take their teachings elsewhere.
Alcohal I believe was a large export. Forest foods (grapes, tree-based fruits, packaged elven foods,) and herbs/alchemic items were most likely exported out. I imagine with the level of
magic-users in the city that mercenaries and hedge wizards were great in number, as well as specialized spell components.
I will look over my research and bring more tomarrow. |
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 21:29:24
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| It's not precisely an export or an import, but sage advice would definitely be another "good" that Myth Drannor possessed. Pretty much any topic, no matter how obscure, would likely have at least one and more likely several sages devoted to it. They wouldn't travel, however, so you would have to come to them. I suppose you could group that under "tourism," which I'm sure there was plenty of in any case. |
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 21:32:02
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| It's not precisely a export or an import, but sage advice would definitely be another "good" that Myth Drannor possessed. Pretty much any topic, no matter how obscure, would likely have at least one and more likely several sages devoted to it. They wouldn't travel, however, so you would have to come to them. I suppose you could group that under "tourism," which I'm sure there was plenty of in any case. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 23:53:51
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'd imagine that the City of Song would have a fair amount of musical business...
It does. I've some notes on this, gleaned from both tomes and novels. I'll dig them out.
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The Sage
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Posted - 11 Jan 2011 : 23:55:52
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Metals, too. I'd also guess other materials for art and jewellery, like gemstones, fine sand for being blown into glass, pigments and paints, etc.
Crystal glassware in particular, also. And from Evereska as well. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 18:12:24
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| Anyone has any tidbits on the districts of Cormanthor (Alkhiilor, Kerradunath, Dlabbradath and Shessyrinam? |
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 18:23:20
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| Define "tidbits." And you do have the Cormanthor and the Ruins of Myth Drannor box sets, yes? Most of what we could say would come from those, unless you go ask Ed directly. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 19:26:47
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
Define "tidbits." And you do have the Cormanthor and the Ruins of Myth Drannor box sets, yes? Most of what we could say would come from those, unless you go ask Ed directly.
Never mind, I dug through those and found what I was looking for. Asking Ed is a nice idea, though. |
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althen artren
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Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 23:38:23
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El in Myth Drannor has a elven clan that farmed mushrooms, so maybe that was
an export. Also Clan Korianthal was labeled as expert animal trainers, so
pets and trained exotic animals/monsters could be on the export list as well. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 13:12:12
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| I need another question about the same text. Which Dragon references Seiveril's Crusade? |
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 15:13:51
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| The last one, 359. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 16:12:37
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
The last one, 359.
Right, and my friend swore it was 345. I'll have to correct it. |
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 19:45:17
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Nope, it's #359. And in case you don't know about it, the DragonDex is a fantastic resource for these kinds of questions. It's here:
http://www.aeolia.net/dragondex/index.html
Maybe we should do something similar with Ed's replies... |
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althen artren
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 21:52:20
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There is a second that talks about Myth Drannor. I think its 354 or 353. About 6 issues
previous. It has a modron on the cover.
Also Ed stated in the Ecology that there was amounts of gold
so great that auromvorax tended to gather in the
southwest Cormanthor forest. |
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Fellfire
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Posted - 05 Mar 2011 : 22:16:47
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| #354. Excellent memory, althen. |
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