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Dennis
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 Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 18:14:39
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The new TV adaptation of G.R.R. Martin's Game of Thrones made me think that perhaps it'll be better if there'd be a Realms TV series first before a movie.
What do you think?
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 19:21:53
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yea, probably would need an even higher budget considering the high magic (to show the uniqueness of the world)
or an animated series, done realistically, not the japanese style |
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Dennis
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 19:46:10
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I don't watch the new TV series of Merlin, but I heard and read some good reviews. So maybe something like it?
I'm not so sure about an animated series,though...Live-action is way better. But if budget is not enough, well, it's still better than nothing at all. |
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 19:47:18
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| As long as they get Elaine to write it I'll watch it! |
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Dennis
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 19:53:39
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PSK or RLB. =)
Had Elaine written a script before? |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 22:23:49
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I don't watch TV. Ever.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 00:19:14
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I'm not sure a television series would be the way to go. Budgets costs are always going to be a concern for a fantasy series which as much depth and exposure as the Realms. And, in the end, I'd imagine it would have a very short run... ultimately enduring a Rome television series-styled death.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 04:24:45
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| Considering that most good sci-fi shows have been short-lived (like Firefly), I don't have much hope for a fantasy TV show doing any better... After all, among non-fans of our genre, sci-fi works better than fantasy with the general public. Yeah, Lord of the Rings is a notable exception, but it's just that: an exception. |
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BlackAce
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 09:59:44
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'm not sure a television series would be the way to go. Budgets costs are always going to be a concern for a fantasy series which as much depth and exposure as the Realms. And, in the end, I'd imagine it would have a very short run... ultimately enduring a Rome television series-styled death.
I usually see that as a good thing though. Most television series struggle beyond the first season with story consistency some even struggle with it in their first season! I can think of very few exceptions-- Maybe Dr Who and thats only really because the Doctor's regenerations enable the writers to push the reset button.
Somebody mentioned Merlin above but I'm not too sure that format would work. Merlin is a family show and mixes a lot of forgetable stand alone fairy-tale and pantomime style comedy episodes in with the more dramatic central arc. This helps it keep a broad audience but lot's of Arthurian purists and 'shippers go bonkers about it. I can hardly imagine the level nerd rage an FR series copying that format would attract! |
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Brimstone
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 10:57:26
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I would watch at series on The Knights of Myth Drannor.
That just sounds fun!!! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 11:19:30
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'm not sure a television series would be the way to go. Budgets costs are always going to be a concern for a fantasy series which as much depth and exposure as the Realms. And, in the end, I'd imagine it would have a very short run... ultimately enduring a Rome television series-styled death.
I usually see that as a good thing though. Most television series struggle beyond the first season with story consistency some even struggle with it in their first season! I can think of very few exceptions-- Maybe Dr Who and thats only really because the Doctor's regenerations enable the writers to push the reset button.
I think Star Trek: The Next Generation managed well -- over its seven years. But that might only be due to the fact that it really didn't have a season-by-season series of story-arcs. Then again, on the opposite side, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine proved, to a limited degree, how well done story-arcs per season, can work over the same seven year period. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 14:24:45
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First season is always a struggle. That's a given. But assemble a great team---from script writer to cast to director---and you'll have a series loved by many, from season 1 to God-knows what. Budget, mayhap, IS the biggest concern...
The Realms series should not follow The Legend of the Seeker format, though. I endured the first three episodes and almost died of boredom! |
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Thauramarth
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 22:59:24
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'm not sure a television series would be the way to go. Budgets costs are always going to be a concern for a fantasy series which as much depth and exposure as the Realms. And, in the end, I'd imagine it would have a very short run... ultimately enduring a Rome television series-styled death.
I usually see that as a good thing though. Most television series struggle beyond the first season with story consistency some even struggle with it in their first season! I can think of very few exceptions-- Maybe Dr Who and thats only really because the Doctor's regenerations enable the writers to push the reset button.
I think Star Trek: The Next Generation managed well -- over its seven years. But that might only be due to the fact that it really didn't have a season-by-season series of story-arcs. Then again, on the opposite side, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine proved, to a limited degree, how well done story-arcs per season, can work over the same seven year period.
Overall story arcs work well enough in TV Series, if they are done right. At the risk of reviving a flame that was quenched over a decade ago - before Star Trek - Deep Space Nine ever got around to doing arcs, Babylon 5 was already doing it, and quite well too (although, I will admit that Season 5 was a bit of a mess on occasions, but I'm willing to put that down to the fact that almost up to the last minute, it was not certain to be picked up for a 5th Season). In addition, Babylon 5 was, for the most part, done on budget and on time, and had (for the time) some pretty nifty special effects.
In case no one had noticed, I'd best put in this disclaimer: I am an unapologetic, unrepentant, fanatic Babylon 5 fanboy. Other examples of successful arc-driven TV: The Wire. I'd say that the re-envisioned Battlestar Galactica also qualifies.
This said, I, for one agree, with Dennis's basic premise: some of the best stuff to appear on screens of any size is TV Fiction - there's a lot more actors who were originally movies-only who have made the mov(i)e to the small screen: Tim Roth, Steve Buscemi, Glenn Close, James Woods, Kiefer Sutherland - there are probably some others.
With regard to fantasy, the closest thing we've had to a successful fantasy franchise was the Hercules and Xena series.
To do a "Realms TV Series", however... Not sure how that one would work. First off, would it simply be an adaptation of a novel (series), not unlike Game of Thrones (which is more of a mini-series, I suppose-? Or more like a regular series? In the latter case, what will the theme be? The "Realms fan base" that would need to be dug into is not a monolithic bloc. Who should be the protagonists? Drizzt et al.? Waterdhavian society (I could see Danilo Thann and Arilyn Moonblade as a good character team - think Moonlighting with magic)? The Knights of Myth Drannor? The Harpers? In order to maintain coherence (and budgetary viability) the scope of the series will need to be limited (and therefore a lot of people's favourite Realms characters and/or locations will be left out, and we all know how well we all deal with our favourite characters and locations being left out ).
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 09 Jan 2011 : 23:33:25
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| Thauramath, I think you may have a great idea in there- Using the Harpers would allow a series to visit just about any locale, and use almost any Realms characters one could name, especially since many of everyone's favorite characters ARE Harpers! It couls start in Waterdeep with Danilo, Arilyn, Khelben and Laeral, and move around the realms as they solve problems or get involved in various schemes of Zhenta, Red Wizards, and others around the Realms. There could be a visit to Undermountain, or a trek to Silverymoon to consult with Alustriel, Maybe a diplomatic trip to Mithril Hall.... The possibilities in that format would be nigh endless! Add in a few other characters as the series goes along, and you've got TV gold!!! (Liriel Baenre could be played by Polly Perrette(sp?) of NCIS- Abby would be perfect for the Baenre girl!) |
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Alisttair
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Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 18:14:04
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| TV series would be fun and I would purchase the complete seasons on DVD if they were to be released. But a series would probably get the pilot episode and a few more and get cancelled and have a plethora of unresolved storylines, so a movie would overall have a better chance at success I think. |
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Tyrant
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Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 22:05:19
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yea, probably would need an even higher budget considering the high magic (to show the uniqueness of the world)
or an animated series, done realistically, not the japanese style
Not to potentially derail, but what are you calling realistic when it comes to animated and what are you calling "the japanese style"? The latter (I will assume you mean anime) is a collection of fairly diverse styles that include several examples with detail that blow the majority of western animation (what I am assuming you are calling "realistic" due to singling out "the japanese style") right out of the water. Shows such as Dragonball Z, Pokemon, Naruto, etc are the lower end and not the sum total of style when it comes to anime in either style or plot. Compared to shows such as Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, or several of the Gundam shows, those other anime shows I mentioned and several western shows simply don't compare.
That's only talking about the style. When it comes to content, by and large the west loses in the animation department. Unfortunately, most western cartoons are aimed quite squarely at kids and most adults don't consider them entertainment worthy of adults. This is simply not the case with anime. There are shows for all ages and a very diverse set of intersts. I believe that if they had an interest in going animated they have a far better shot of getting a show that looks good and is willing to have an engaging plot and characters by looking to Japan. They may also have a better shot of success by adapting specific books into one shot movies (or however many to do the book justice). You need to look to shows like Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, or Full Metal Alchemist (when it doesn't include certain anime conventions such as the big teardrop) or movies such as Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust, Highlander: The Search for Vengeance, or Ninja Scroll to see the level of style and plot that would work well with D&D. |
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Wenin
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Posted - 10 Jan 2011 : 22:54:21
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I don't watch the new TV series of Merlin, but I heard and read some good reviews. So maybe something like it?
Really? Good?
I would have never guessed that people actually liked Merlin. I watched the first season and it was horrible in my opinion. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 00:19:26
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Originally posted by Quale
yea, probably would need an even higher budget considering the high magic (to show the uniqueness of the world)
or an animated series, done realistically, not the japanese style
Not to potentially derail, but what are you calling realistic when it comes to animated and what are you calling "the japanese style"? The latter (I will assume you mean anime) is a collection of fairly diverse styles that include several examples with detail that blow the majority of western animation (what I am assuming you are calling "realistic" due to singling out "the japanese style") right out of the water. Shows such as Dragonball Z, Pokemon, Naruto, etc are the lower end and not the sum total of style when it comes to anime in either style or plot. Compared to shows such as Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, or several of the Gundam shows, those other anime shows I mentioned and several western shows simply don't compare.
That's only talking about the style. When it comes to content, by and large the west loses in the animation department. Unfortunately, most western cartoons are aimed quite squarely at kids and most adults don't consider them entertainment worthy of adults. This is simply not the case with anime. There are shows for all ages and a very diverse set of intersts. I believe that if they had an interest in going animated they have a far better shot of getting a show that looks good and is willing to have an engaging plot and characters by looking to Japan. They may also have a better shot of success by adapting specific books into one shot movies (or however many to do the book justice). You need to look to shows like Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, or Full Metal Alchemist (when it doesn't include certain anime conventions such as the big teardrop) or movies such as Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust, Highlander: The Search for Vengeance, or Ninja Scroll to see the level of style and plot that would work well with D&D.
Western cartoons are mostly for KIDS. Several anime, however, are simply not for kids, like Bleach and The Legend of Legendary Heroes.
The animated movie of Sorcerer Supreme was well done, so as the X-Men Evolution series, I think. So maybe something like either of them if you want the Western style. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 00:24:48
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I don't watch the new TV series of Merlin, but I heard and read some good reviews. So maybe something like it?
Really? Good?
I would have never guessed that people actually liked Merlin. I watched the first season and it was horrible in my opinion.
Hah! I didn't bother watching even one episode. The trailers themselves discouraged me. |
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Tyrant
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Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 05:31:46
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Western cartoons are mostly for KIDS. Several anime, however, are simply not for kids, like Bleach and The Legend of Legendary Heroes.
I've never seen anything on Bleach that I thought was objectionable, but I haven't seen a majority of episodes. That aside, my point was that anime isn't strictly for kids and it embraces a variety of ideas which would mean that a D&D anime series would have a chance to be something other than a kids cartoon (which is the likely outcome if it is western animation). It doesn't have to be adult through and through, PG 13 level is fine. Not that I would argue against R level, I just don't think it would sell as well and won't do much to spread the name to a younger audience.
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The animated movie of Sorcerer Supreme was well done, so as the X-Men Evolution series, I think. So maybe something like either of them if you want the Western style.
I'm not a fan of the style of the XMen Evolution (and the only plot I even thought of following was the rise of Apocalypse). If it were going to be Western, I would hope it would emulate the approach the DC animated movies have taken. The art can occasionally be hit and miss (I dislike the "barrel chest, pencil legs look" that took hold around the time the 90s Superman animated series started, the look the Batman Animated Series had prior to that was great), but the willingness to go PG 13 and include bloody violence (medieval weapons don't do lovely things to a human body) and cursing (I imagine some adventurers would put sailors to shame in this department) is the way to go with animated D&D. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 12 Jan 2011 : 05:55:16
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Western cartoons are mostly for KIDS. Several anime, however, are simply not for kids, like Bleach and The Legend of Legendary Heroes.
I've never seen anything on Bleach that I thought was objectionable...
Neither have I. I've watched a couple of episodes. It's not one of my favorites, but 'tis something I consider watching till the end, given enough time. A LOT of time, actually, as the series now reaches, the last time I checked, 300+ episodes. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 01 Feb 2011 : 04:08:04
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The animated movie of Sorcerer Supreme was well done, so as the X-Men Evolution series, I think. So maybe something like either of them if you want the Western style.
I'm not a fan of the style of the XMen Evolution (and the only plot I even thought of following was the rise of Apocalypse). If it were going to be Western, I would hope it would emulate the approach the DC animated movies have taken.
I've seen some, and I agree. |
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Tyrant
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Posted - 01 Feb 2011 : 04:56:10
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The animated movie of Sorcerer Supreme was well done, so as the X-Men Evolution series, I think. So maybe something like either of them if you want the Western style.
I'm not a fan of the style of the XMen Evolution (and the only plot I even thought of following was the rise of Apocalypse). If it were going to be Western, I would hope it would emulate the approach the DC animated movies have taken.
I've seen some, and I agree.
DC may not seem to have a clue how to compete with Marvel on the movie front (aside from handing Batman over to Nolan), but they seem to keep producing quality material with their animated movies in terms of animation and plot (which should be a given when they do adaptations, but it can go horribly wrong). I finally got around to watching Under the Red Hood. I thought it was pretty good and my only real complaint is that Mark Hamill should be the Joker for every instance of voice work ever.
As a side note, I wish they would adapt Red Son into an animated movie. Live action will never happen, Super Commie Man is too much for some people to handle. |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 01 Feb 2011 : 19:52:34
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Western cartoons being made for kids is a sad, sad reality that needs to change. So, if a realms series was made, I would argue that it would be considerably better if it was animated. Putting it in anime style artisticly isn't, in and of itself, a bad choice, so long as it is on the higher scale of quality and avoids all the terrible anime cliches(sparkles, dinnerdish eyes, giant sweat drops, snot bubbles when sleeping, nose bleeds to signify arousal), it could be quality. Then again, having it done in a western style (say, Justice League unlimited or He-man and the masters of the universe) could be just as good.
Also, I'd argue it would best serve as an anthology series, with different episodes focusing on different characters across the realms. |
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Therise
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Posted - 01 Feb 2011 : 19:56:42
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Western cartoons being made for kids is a sad, sad reality that needs to change. So, if a realms series was made, I would argue that it would be considerably better if it was animated. Putting it in anime style artisticly isn't, in and of itself, a bad choice, so long as it is on the higher scale of quality and avoids all the terrible anime cliches(sparkles, dinnerdish eyes, giant sweat drops, snot bubbles when sleeping, nose bleeds to signify arousal), it could be quality. Then again, having it done in a western style (say, Justice League unlimited or He-man and the masters of the universe) could be just as good.
Also, I'd argue it would best serve as an anthology series, with different episodes focusing on different characters across the realms.
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 01 Feb 2011 : 20:03:51
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Lily M Green
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Posted - 01 Feb 2011 : 20:15:23
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I hope that no one objects to me adding my twopenneth here?! I think that a 'Realms' TV series is an interesting concept, not least because, if done well, it would introduce the world to a wider audience. The thing with a movie is that, unless you're a buff who'll go out and watch anything and everything, the viewer needs a vested interest in the movie to go out and part with their hard earned to see it. For example: because it stars your favourite actor, you like the original and want to see if the remake is any good, it's adapted for a book you like, it's got rave reviews. With the latter, fantasy that isn't specifically aimed at kids always has to be exceptional to earn them and draw an older audience out.
TV, however, is a very universal media/medium and people are more likely to give something a go if all they need to do is flip the channel to catch it.
As for formats & comparisons... For me, a cartoon is too niche and I am of an age where I would always associate any D&D cartoon with the 80's kids show, and I think a casual viewer would too, so I wouldn't make time to sit down and watch it.
For live action, rather than Merlin (which I love) the obvious comparison for me would be the Stargate franchise. (Save for Universe, which went in a much darker direction I didn't like) But the original series and Atlantis spin-off were nicely pitched to attract the hardcore Sci-Fi/fantasy fan and casual viewer alike. Had well crafted story arcs that were tied up well and good dollop of humour and well used Lore. And the original SG-1 lasted 10 seasons and 214 episodes.
I hope that makes some sense?
ETA: & Having just this moment seen the trailer for Game of Thrones all I can say is. Oh My God. I really hope it's as good as it looks!
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Feb 2011 : 20:26:17
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
Western cartoons being made for kids is a sad, sad reality that needs to change. So, if a realms series was made, I would argue that it would be considerably better if it was animated. Putting it in anime style artisticly isn't, in and of itself, a bad choice, so long as it is on the higher scale of quality and avoids all the terrible anime cliches(sparkles, dinnerdish eyes, giant sweat drops, snot bubbles when sleeping, nose bleeds to signify arousal), it could be quality. Then again, having it done in a western style (say, Justice League unlimited or He-man and the masters of the universe) could be just as good.
Also, I'd argue it would best serve as an anthology series, with different episodes focusing on different characters across the realms.
Not all anime features those things. A lot of the serious ones do not have any of those cliches, as you call them.
It depends on what the anime is. Associating sweatdrops and the like with all anime is like associating laugh tracks with all American TV. |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 01 Feb 2011 : 20:34:33
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That is true, a lot of them avoid it and they're the better for it. Its just I think those cliches are a big part of the reason people who haven't seen much anime dislike it.
Anyway. It is a personal cause of mind to get animation in america out of the age ghetto, even if I have to eventually drag it out with a meat hook. We need more serious animation aimed towards adult audiences. By which I mean, we need serious animation aimed at adult audiences. |
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Tyrant
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
Western cartoons being made for kids is a sad, sad reality that needs to change. So, if a realms series was made, I would argue that it would be considerably better if it was animated. Putting it in anime style artisticly isn't, in and of itself, a bad choice, so long as it is on the higher scale of quality and avoids all the terrible anime cliches(sparkles, dinnerdish eyes, giant sweat drops, snot bubbles when sleeping, nose bleeds to signify arousal), it could be quality. Then again, having it done in a western style (say, Justice League unlimited or He-man and the masters of the universe) could be just as good.
Also, I'd argue it would best serve as an anthology series, with different episodes focusing on different characters across the realms.
Yeah the higher end anime series and movies don't do those things. I think Fullmetal Alchemist is one of the few that has a somewhat serious plot and otherwise decent animation that occasionally dips into the absurd. I expect shows like Dragonball, Sailor Moon, or Bleach to do that. Shows like Ghost in the Shell don't do that, ever. If it ever happened in Coybow Bebop it was very minimal. It's those types of shows that I would look to as examples of "done right" that I would hope a D&D anime (if they went that route) would emulate.
An anthology could work. Now that I think about it though, the plot might be the real issue. If it's considered canon, what will it be about? If it's adaptations of novels, no problem. If it's original material, I'm not so sure. I think it would likely be set in the post Spellplague era (that seems to be the trend). That gives them some wiggle room since a lot of areas aren't heavily developed in terms of plot, but it might be hard having them avoid RSE type events. Though I suppose one way out is to have it not be considered canon. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Why a movie when a TV series is better?
