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Dennis
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Posted - 06 Jan 2011 : 01:30:35
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"Drain"? Doesn't that sound awe-inspiring? It's indicative of one of the greatest spells they created. For scholars, scribes, and historians I think that works fine. But for the Neths, hmmm, I don't think so. So far the apt name that the Netherese might have used to refer to the phaerimm is tangle.
...Or maybe an asininity of phaerimm. Lunacy sounds fitting, too. |
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Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 06 Jan 2011 : 17:17:30
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Not to belabor the point, but I’m wondering if the Phaerimm’s breezy, susurrus-like voices might have influenced the terminology? Any ideas on what that would entail? A hurricane of Phaerimm? A storm of Phaerimm? A gust of Phaerimm?
I do like “drain” and “tangle” still.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 06 Jan 2011 : 18:10:41
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quote: Originally posted by Mr_Miscellany
Not to belabor the point, but I’m wondering if the Phaerimm’s breezy, susurrus-like voices might have influenced the terminology? Any ideas on what that would entail? A hurricane of Phaerimm? A storm of Phaerimm? A gust of Phaerimm?
I do like “drain” and “tangle” still.
I like tangle, myself, though I'm thinking it's the best term offered thus far, and still not the ideal term.
If you want to go with something inspired by their voices, how about a whisper of phaerimm or a chant of phaerimm? |
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Dennis
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Posted - 06 Jan 2011 : 19:02:41
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Susurration and sibilation. |
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The Simbul
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Posted - 07 Jan 2011 : 06:43:37
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According to Lost Empires of Faerûn (p187-189) the terminology for groups of Phaerimm are:
Clutch: 2-5 (hatchlings, juveniles, and young adults) Hive: 3-6 (adults, mature adults, elders, and revered elders) plus 2-8 offspring
Prior editions of the game listed them as "solitary" under organization, but then somewhat contradicted themselves by claiming they like to live near their own kind under habitat/society.
In Return of the Archwizards terms like SpellGather and WarGather are used, but they seemed to be more of a term used among the Phaerimm themselves (in their own 'undecipherable' language), and of specific military divisions of the group in question, rather than a term that would be used in general or by humanoid adversaries. |
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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 07 Jan 2011 : 15:54:09
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What about 'nihil' for Phaerimm? As an alternate terminology, with respect to what the Simbul pointed out above. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 17:28:11
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Hive sounds so insectile. I favor the suggestions by fellow scribes. And I think 'dread' fits them perfectly. |
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Quale
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 19:14:07
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other than hive-clutch, I've seen ''enclave of'' used
insect-terms works for my Realms where they have a future similar to the Great Race of Yith |
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Dennis
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Posted - 08 Jan 2011 : 19:55:25
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I think "enclave of" was used in RotA. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Jan 2011 : 15:39:22
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Though sci-fi-ish, a quantum of phaerimm sounds good, too. |
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Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 22 Mar 2011 : 23:16:33
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As it relates to Crawling Claws, Monsters of Faerûn lists the number appearing as solitary, group or "applause".
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 01:41:21
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Perhaps A Scribble of Scribes is fitting? |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 02:07:46
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CR's suggestion of an "argument of scribes" is also fitting, though perhaps better suited to sages. Alas, we have only one Sage so we cannot address the plural form. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 02:57:03
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
Alas, we have only one Sage so we cannot address the plural form.
Thank Lurue for that! Two Sages -- or, more specifically, their two never-ending to-do lists -- would surely rip a hole in the fabric of time and space!  |
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 03:23:02
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Arik
Alas, we have only one Sage so we cannot address the plural form.
Thank Lurue for that! Two Sages -- or, more specifically, their two never-ending to-do lists -- would surely rip a hole in the fabric of time and space! 
Well they'd think it was a good idea, scribble a few notes on how to go about ripping a hole into the fabric of space and time.....get distracted.....forget all about their plans And and .........voila! Were all still safe and sound!  |
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The Sage
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Ayrik
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Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 04:07:58
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I cannot speak for the Lady K, though I suspect she wouldn't be satisfied with an argument of Sages. |
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Markustay
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Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 07:10:57
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How about 'brood'? |
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Steven Schend
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Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 15:10:58
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A shudder of sharn (for more than 3) or a glisten of sharn (for less than 4). :)
My own fictional world to be launched soon uses fun terms of venery as well; three to five ogres is a risk; a threat is 3+ risks, and a menace is 5+ threats.
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Markustay
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Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 17:22:02
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quote: Originally posted by Steven Schend
A shudder of sharn (for more than 3) or a glisten of sharn (for less than 4). :)
My own fictional world to be launched soon uses fun terms of venery as well; three to five ogres is a risk; a threat is 3+ risks, and a menace is 5+ threats.
Count me intrigued; I have always been a fan of your work.  |
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 23 Mar 2011 : 18:50:35
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
I cannot speak for the Lady K, though I suspect she wouldn't be satisfied with an argument of Sages.
As if he doesn't already argue with himself often? |
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"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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Dennis
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 02:57:02
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A shudder of sharn indeed sounds fitting. |
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Markustay
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 04:50:02
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A pestilence of Phaerimm.  |
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Dennis
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 05:29:33
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A gallimaufry of scribes. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 06:03:39
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A plethora of piñatas. |
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Markustay
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 06:17:25
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
A gallimaufry of scribes.
A Grognard of Sages.  |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 06:30:58
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A grumble of grognards. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 06:35:35
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quote: Originally posted by Markustay
quote: Originally posted by Dennis
A gallimaufry of scribes.
A Grognard of Sages. 
I'd rather have an obduracy of sages, since they're the most obdurate beings in the multiverse. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 24 Mar 2011 : 06:45:05
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That's not an adjective I'd have chosen. The Sage we know is far too tolerant and easily distracted to be suitably obdurate; as any conversational musings about muses or musics or mutants will readily demonstrate. |
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