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Baleful Avatar
Learned Scribe
Canada
161 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2011 : 20:00:27
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Dear Ed and THO, Weird Realms question, this time. Other than carts on rails or guiding grooves inside mines, are there such things as railways/railroads, however crude or different from our real world, in the Realms? I know Ed has a fondness for model railroading... BA |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jul 2011 : 16:43:24
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Hi again, all. Longtime Lurker, here's a swift Ed reply:
Hi. No, I'm not currently writing a Cthulhu meets Holmes book, though I have written Cthulhu stories and Holmes pastiches in the past, and I am writing a steampunk novel right now set in an alternate Victorian London (and environs), with all the cobbles, gaslamps, fogs, and hansom cabs familiar from the Holmes canon. I have no plans to have the Great Detective make an appearance, but tentacled monsters, now . . .
Heh. So saith Ed. love, THO |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jul 2011 : 18:38:39
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Hi again, all. Back on page 5 of this thread, createvmind asked: "Have there ever been ghost/spectral spirit hordes with so many mass deaths occuring throughout faerun's history? If so how were they dealt with or does the nature of ghost types keep them keyed to an area that they are unable to leave and still be "potent"?" Here's a reply from Ed:
Hi, createvmind! MOST undead manifest in (or lurk in and near) the area of their deaths/rise as undead/traumatic event/so on, so yes, they are tied to an area (though in the case of a ship or ghost ship [or wagon, etc.], it might be a mobile "spot"), but there are many mobile undead (liches, vampires, revenants, etc.) and in the Realms, there are a FEW mobile forces of spectral/ghostly undead, including the Howling Hunt of Tethyr (a hunting party that was chased and slaughtered by hobgoblins, and now in ghostly form gallops wildly through moonlit locales up and down the Sword Coast, fleeing frantically - - and attacking all living beings they see - - as unseen slayers hack bits of them off); the Hurrying Harpers (rangers and bards running hard through the High Forest in an endless, doomed attempt to get young children away from murderous nobles; they all perished, but won time and distance enough for kindly satyrs to take the children on; the Harpers still manifest to this day, to snatch infants and youngsters away from beset or wounded parents trying to get them away from peril, and take them far through forests, all over the Sword Coast North); and Relegarde's Blades, a pirate crew who fell to fighting among themselves on the way back to shore from covertly burying treasure, slaughtered everyone except their magically-protected captain, Velmur Relegarde - - and now, as spectral undead, still trot and rush on foot through coastal lands from Tethyr northwards, hacking at each other and any living beings they see. There are also half a dozen or so "ghost" warbands, elven and human and dwarven, fleeing from or hurrying to join battles fought long ago, that can be seen in various places in the Heartlands (usually on moonlit nights, and usually not in large cities). Some such manifestations have been "dealt with" by clergy or adventurers seeking to end their cause, by redressing a past wrong or finding the fallen and burying them with proper rites in consecrated graves, and the like . . . but most have not been ended or lessened in this manner, and still return to frighten or endanger the living.
So saith Ed. Hauntmaster of the Realms. love, THO |
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createvmind
Senior Scribe
490 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jul 2011 : 19:00:37
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Awesome, thanks! |
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MalariaMoon
Learned Scribe
324 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2011 : 02:15:44
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Hello to the Hooded One and Ed,
A couple of questions if I may.
1) Does Candlekeep have a coat of arms or any associated heraldry? Forgive me if this has been asked before!
2) Can Ed tell us a little about falconry in the Realms. Where is it practiced, and is it only the preserve of the nobility? Would Ed be able to tell us about any species of hawk, falcon or eagle endemic to the Realms?
Many thsnks |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2011 : 02:52:02
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Hi again, all. Malaria Moon, Candlekeep does indeed have a blazon Ed has described before. All I recall of the top of my head right now is: midnight blue shield with tan scroll on it, but there are other charges/details that I can't remember, so off to Ed this goes... Falconry, too, has been discussed before, and most real-world raptors can be found in the Realms (the problem is the real-world name overlaps: names like kestrel, merlin, gyrfalcon, sparrowhawk, etc. get applied to different birds in different countries). The nobility love to fly falcons in Waterdeep (unless it got edited out, there was a brief falconry scene in CITY OF SPLENDORS, the novel by Elaine and Ed), Tethyr, Cormyr, and elsewhere, but falconry is nowhere restricted to the nobility - - only to those with the coin and facilities (mews, a hunting ground) to train and hunt falcons. Many rural steaders (rough near-wilderness farmers) use falcons to down game birds for their own tables (falcons and humans share the kills). Ed will say more when he can, of course... love, THO |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2011 : 02:54:27
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Oh, wait! Remembered one thing more about the Candlekeep coat-of-arms: the shield is "tall" (flat top, straight sides that are longer than usual, with a pointed bottom), and has a border of varying-sized books. I think there's a quill pen crossed with the scroll, too, but don't hold me to that... love, THO |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2011 : 05:03:24
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Hello THO and Ed,
Couple of questions regarding drow please. :)
1. I was wondering if Ed could explain how drow noble houses are formed.
2. When drow noble houses go to war, do the priestesses or matron mother actually engage in combat or lead their troops? Or is the standard to gather around an idol of Lolth and engage in a form of mental combat with the enemy house clerics, like what happened in Bob Salvatore's novel Homeland? What kind of spells would this require or how is it done?
Looking forward to the next Elminster novel. :) And thank you both very much, these lore Q&A threads are awesome!
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2011 : 18:55:42
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Heh. I'm not Ed or tHO, but I can confidently predict that the short answer to both your questions is: it depends. (Meaning, it varies from drow city to drow city, and over time.) BB |
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Thieran
Learned Scribe
Germany
293 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2011 : 21:36:53
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
[...] The nobility love to fly falcons in Waterdeep (unless it got edited out, there was a brief falconry scene in CITY OF SPLENDORS, the novel by Elaine and Ed) [...]
If I may: having recently read the novel, I can confirm that it was not edited out. |
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Falstaffsrevenge
Acolyte
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2011 : 13:55:33
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THO thank you for your response. I am humbled that Mr. Greenwood is using my sig. as an inspiration. Agian I am humbled by you two and all that you do. (I feel a Wayne and Garth momement, "We're not worth, we're not worthy).
Any idea where or when I can see this 'Sping a Yarn' tale? |
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Eltheron
Senior Scribe
740 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 03:07:56
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THO and Ed: here's a fun/silly question - does the Realms have anything similar to ice cream, sorbets, or flavored ices? If so, what kinds and where are they popular?
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"The very best possible post-fourteenth-century Realms lets down those who love the specific, detailed social, political and magical situation, with its thousands of characters, developed over forty years, and want to learn more about it; and those who'd be open to a new one with equal depth, which there just isn't time to re-produce; and those repelled, some past the point of no return, by the bad-taste-and-plausibility gap of things done to the world when its guardianship was less careful." --Faraer |
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Malcolm
Learned Scribe
242 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 16:26:37
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I dimly recall Ed saying something about flavored ices before. Where, though...can't remember. Falstaffsrevenge, the Spin A Yarn story usually gets posted on the WotC website in the summer, before GenCon, in the free public areas of the site, not in DDI. So it should be showing up pretty soon...
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Baleful Avatar
Learned Scribe
Canada
161 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 16:36:34
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Dear Ed/THO, I'm currently a player in a campaign where a magic item was found that triggered a portal or gate or mass teleport effect and dumped our party on Mintarn. Where the DM has an interesting plot unfolding, but as far as daily details of life on that island goes, is making things up as he goes along (he freely admits this). Privately, he's told me he's struggling with two things: HOW do they fish (drift nets, dragged nets, lobster pots, spears, what?) and common names for people (average joes, not the high and mighty). Please, can you help? Thanks! BA |
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Longtime Lurker
Seeker
51 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 16:41:26
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Dear Ed, any chance of your sitting down to discuss writing with a newbie at GenCon? A just starting out writer friend of mine is trying to decide whether or not to attend. If your answer is "No," she'll just wander through the Con Center one evening to get a taste of things, but if it's "Yes" she'll buy a badge for the whole thing and be happy to catch a few moments of your time when it fits your schedule. I've already warned her how busy you usually are. LL |
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A Publishing Lackey
Seeker
74 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 16:58:23
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I'd not dare to speak for Ed, other than to point out he's sat down to chat with novice writers scores of times at past Gen Cons, but there's an entire, and quite good, programming track at Gen Con called the Writers Symposium. A Google search will readily pull up the list and descriptions of this year's panels. Jean Rabe used to head it, but Marc Tassin is now the head honcho. As a longtime publishing guy myself, take it from me: the right ten to twenty minutes with Ed is worth more than an expensive writing workshop or any truckload of "creative writing" college courses. The man has written or co-written closing on two hundred books now, everything from model railroading guides to bodice rippers, not just fantasy and gaming. He knows his stuff. (And a lot of the people who think they know what an Ed Greenwood book is because they've read an Elminster novel would be very, very surprised if they read some of the stuff I didn't count into that two hundred books, that he's ghost-written. The man can write anything, and do it well.) The last time I saw him was at a publishers' dinner where a marketing suit derided current publishing trends by saying he was expecting to soon see "steampunk zombie porno westerns." A few minutes later Ed stunned him by outlining a multi-book story arc that would probably have sold very well, and was, yes, a steampunk zombie porno western. |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 17:05:06
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Speaking of Ed and GenCon and the Writer's Symposium, the latest issue of the SFWA BULLETIN (that's the public magazine of the Science Fiction & Fantasy Writers of America, so it can be found in some bookstores and libraries, and I'm talking about the Summer 2011 issue, Vol 43 Issue 3) has a long article on Gen Con by Jody Lynn Nye and Bill Fawcett, and a piece by Gregory Wilson on Networking that covers Gen Con. Ed gets mentioned in both (in the Wilson article, Ed is also under Ad Astra, the oldest Canadian sf con, that Ed attends most years and where I think he met Gabrielle Harbowy and won her over to his When The Hero Comes Home idea). If I remember rightly, Ed's a lifetime active member of SFWA. Which I think entitles him to dance naked around bonfires of anti-sf academic books by the light of the full moon, or some such. BB |
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Sage of Stars
Seeker
USA
59 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 17:09:06
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No, no, it's his multiple Gamer's Choice awards that enable him to do that. The SFWA membership entitles him to feud endlessly online in the SFWA forums, if he ever wants to. And his Nebula nominations let him wear a paper crown as he does so. Ahem. Serious question, Ed and THO: did the Steve Miller period lady detective anthology porject ever get off the ground? Or is it still on longterm comatose hiatus? Ed wrote a story for it, I seem to recall . . . |
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ziresta
Acolyte
USA
6 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 22:30:51
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In "A Dance In Storm's Garden," Elminster says, "I mate with dragons -- suitably shapechanged, of course -- and live to rue that whim." I find myself horribly curious about this. Not the mating itself, mind, the rueing of it. What happened? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36809 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 00:42:13
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quote: Originally posted by ziresta
In "A Dance In Storm's Garden," Elminster says, "I mate with dragons -- suitably shapechanged, of course -- and live to rue that whim." I find myself horribly curious about this. Not the mating itself, mind, the rueing of it. What happened?
And did it involve penicillin? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31788 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 03:21:18
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quote: Originally posted by Malcolm
I dimly recall Ed saying something about flavored ices before. Where, though...can't remember.
It does sound familiar. I'll make a quick check of the "So Saith Ed" archives here at Candlekeep.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 03:52:12
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Hi again, all. ziresta, re. this: "In "A Dance In Storm's Garden," Elminster says, "I mate with dragons -- suitably shapechanged, of course -- and live to rue that whim." I find myself horribly curious about this. Not the mating itself, mind, the rueing of it. What happened?" I THINK there's still an NDA in place on this (meaning: unpublished story or novel or TSR-approved {yes, it's that old} planned literary idea pending), but will check with Ed, of course. And Wooly, re. this: "And did it involve penicillin?" Har har. Sage, I recall something about ices, too, but my search-fu is non-existent tonight; the Keep's search function keeps throwing me out, and I'm away from my home computers with their saved Ed-files. So yes, please search . . . love, THO |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 03:58:35
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Hi again, everybody. Longtime Lurker, please pass this on to your friend, from Ed:
I'd be happy to meet and chat about writing or whatever at GenCon. My schedule is packed with panels and seminars and signings and suchlike, that I MUST attend, and I try to see friends in gaming in the spaces around them, but I primarily attend GenCon to see friends and make new ones, and am always happy to sit and talk with fans, gamers, writers veteran and novice, and anybody else. I've chatted with mayors and police chiefs, with prostitutes and company presidents of all stripes (including several of my outside-gaming publishing companies), with retired soldiers and War College types, with childhood friends who were astonished to run into me in an American city far from home . . . and I always love to talk about writing. And listen, too. So if you want to PM THO, and we'll try to arrange a time . . . Hugs in advance, from Ed.
So saith Ed. So there you go, LL. love, THO |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 04:16:28
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And Ed just surprised me with another e-mail! MalariaMoon, here's more about Candlekeep's heraldry (Sage? Wooly? you might want to tell Alaundo about this, too...) Here's Ed:
Over the years, Candlekeep has used two badges at various times (falling out of favor and being revived, overlapping each other, several times): • a vertical flat-white-hued human right hand, fingers towards the viewer, clutching a rolled-up, horizontal white scroll, the scroll being outlined all around with blue (what we in the real world sometimes call "electric blue") • two flat-white long fingered human or elven left hands, the uppermost at top left and the lower one at bottom right, passing a book (in the center) between them. The book is rectangular, dun brown, and oriented with top at upper right, open side down the lower right side, and bottom at lower left. It is plain (no title or illustration on its covers) Candlekeep also has a formal coat-of-arms, consisting of: An midnight blue (darker than royal blue, but with a lighter blue "edge" as if moonlight is lighting it "from behind," all around) shield. The shield has straight sides and top, a symmetrical center-point curved bottom, and is "taller" (longer, vertically) than the normal heraldic shield dimensions. It has a border of cream-hued books, all around, each one unique in dimensions and appearance, none bearing titles or visible writing, and each one touching the next. On the shield is a motto (yes, ON the shield, winding across it just above the bottom point, not wrapped around the shield or beneath/below it) on a scarlet ribbon, that reads: "Write and share the written, and so cheat time." Above this is a large, unfurled scroll, cream-hued and blank, and crossed atop it are a quill pen (point at lower left, feather-plume at upper right, quill being black and feather being blue with a white tip and black bars, rather like a real-world blue jay feather) and a plain steel-gray sword (hilt at upper left and point at lower right. The sword is broken into two pieces, with jagged edges that would visibly mesh to form a whole if pushed together, but they are separated by the quill pen, which lies "across" the path of the sword in its own cleared channel (yep, the pen is mightier than the sword). At certain times in the past, these arms have displayed certain lone runes in red on the scroll, but Candlekeep does not use them at this time, and does not explain what they were/are or why they were used and are not used now (magic is obviously suspected, but there are fierce debates about it being linked to Mystra, Oghma, Deneir, or other deities or non-divine forces or writings or individuals). And no, I'm not going to reveal more about those runes right now. Perhaps later, when the time is right. So speculate away, scribes. :}
So saith Ed. Master of Realmslore, creator of the Realms and Alaundo and Candlekeep (the fictional originals, of course, not this site or real-world scribes using such monikers). love to all, THO |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31788 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 06:03:15
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
And Ed just surprised me with another e-mail! MalariaMoon, here's more about Candlekeep's heraldry (Sage? Wooly? you might want to tell Alaundo about this, too...) Here's Ed:
Over the years, Candlekeep has used two badges at various times (falling out of favor and being revived, overlapping each other, several times): • a vertical flat-white-hued human right hand, fingers towards the viewer, clutching a rolled-up, horizontal white scroll, the scroll being outlined all around with blue (what we in the real world sometimes call "electric blue") • two flat-white long fingered human or elven left hands, the uppermost at top left and the lower one at bottom right, passing a book (in the center) between them. The book is rectangular, dun brown, and oriented with top at upper right, open side down the lower right side, and bottom at lower left. It is plain (no title or illustration on its covers) Candlekeep also has a formal coat-of-arms, consisting of: An midnight blue (darker than royal blue, but with a lighter blue "edge" as if moonlight is lighting it "from behind," all around) shield. The shield has straight sides and top, a symmetrical center-point curved bottom, and is "taller" (longer, vertically) than the normal heraldic shield dimensions. It has a border of cream-hued books, all around, each one unique in dimensions and appearance, none bearing titles or visible writing, and each one touching the next. On the shield is a motto (yes, ON the shield, winding across it just above the bottom point, not wrapped around the shield or beneath/below it) on a scarlet ribbon, that reads: "Write and share the written, and so cheat time." Above this is a large, unfurled scroll, cream-hued and blank, and crossed atop it are a quill pen (point at lower left, feather-plume at upper right, quill being black and feather being blue with a white tip and black bars, rather like a real-world blue jay feather) and a plain steel-gray sword (hilt at upper left and point at lower right. The sword is broken into two pieces, with jagged edges that would visibly mesh to form a whole if pushed together, but they are separated by the quill pen, which lies "across" the path of the sword in its own cleared channel (yep, the pen is mightier than the sword). At certain times in the past, these arms have displayed certain lone runes in red on the scroll, but Candlekeep does not use them at this time, and does not explain what they were/are or why they were used and are not used now (magic is obviously suspected, but there are fierce debates about it being linked to Mystra, Oghma, Deneir, or other deities or non-divine forces or writings or individuals). And no, I'm not going to reveal more about those runes right now. Perhaps later, when the time is right. So speculate away, scribes. :}
So saith Ed. Master of Realmslore, creator of the Realms and Alaundo and Candlekeep (the fictional originals, of course, not this site or real-world scribes using such monikers). love to all, THO
Neat.
I may just have to find a way to include this in Ed's already pre-existing An Introduction to Candlekeep scroll from the main-site. |
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MalariaMoon
Learned Scribe
324 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 15:20:16
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Thanks Hooded One and Ed,
Candlekeep's symbol is part of a neat little trap I'm designing, though I'd better not say more in these Halls, as it'll be sprung upon one of my fellow scribes! |
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The_Silversword
Seeker
USA
58 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 16:58:01
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
And Ed just surprised me with another e-mail! MalariaMoon, here's more about Candlekeep's heraldry (Sage? Wooly? you might want to tell Alaundo about this, too...) Here's Ed:
Over the years, Candlekeep has used two badges at various times (falling out of favor and being revived, overlapping each other, several times): • a vertical flat-white-hued human right hand, fingers towards the viewer, clutching a rolled-up, horizontal white scroll, the scroll being outlined all around with blue (what we in the real world sometimes call "electric blue") • two flat-white long fingered human or elven left hands, the uppermost at top left and the lower one at bottom right, passing a book (in the center) between them. The book is rectangular, dun brown, and oriented with top at upper right, open side down the lower right side, and bottom at lower left. It is plain (no title or illustration on its covers) Candlekeep also has a formal coat-of-arms, consisting of: An midnight blue (darker than royal blue, but with a lighter blue "edge" as if moonlight is lighting it "from behind," all around) shield. The shield has straight sides and top, a symmetrical center-point curved bottom, and is "taller" (longer, vertically) than the normal heraldic shield dimensions. It has a border of cream-hued books, all around, each one unique in dimensions and appearance, none bearing titles or visible writing, and each one touching the next. On the shield is a motto (yes, ON the shield, winding across it just above the bottom point, not wrapped around the shield or beneath/below it) on a scarlet ribbon, that reads: "Write and share the written, and so cheat time." Above this is a large, unfurled scroll, cream-hued and blank, and crossed atop it are a quill pen (point at lower left, feather-plume at upper right, quill being black and feather being blue with a white tip and black bars, rather like a real-world blue jay feather) and a plain steel-gray sword (hilt at upper left and point at lower right. The sword is broken into two pieces, with jagged edges that would visibly mesh to form a whole if pushed together, but they are separated by the quill pen, which lies "across" the path of the sword in its own cleared channel (yep, the pen is mightier than the sword). At certain times in the past, these arms have displayed certain lone runes in red on the scroll, but Candlekeep does not use them at this time, and does not explain what they were/are or why they were used and are not used now (magic is obviously suspected, but there are fierce debates about it being linked to Mystra, Oghma, Deneir, or other deities or non-divine forces or writings or individuals). And no, I'm not going to reveal more about those runes right now. Perhaps later, when the time is right. So speculate away, scribes. :}
So saith Ed. Master of Realmslore, creator of the Realms and Alaundo and Candlekeep (the fictional originals, of course, not this site or real-world scribes using such monikers). love to all, THO
So the Heraldry on the map that came with the Baldur's Gate video game is totally bogus? Well I guess I should of known, being a video game done by an outside company, still though I had assumed that they would of done some research into the setting and at the very least check with Ed. |
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Hildifons
Acolyte
Sweden
4 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 22:00:43
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quote: Originally posted by The_Silversword
So the Heraldry on the map that came with the Baldur's Gate video game is totally bogus? Well I guess I should of known, being a video game done by an outside company, still though I had assumed that they would of done some research into the setting and at the very least check with Ed.
Actually, the Candlekeep logo on the map and in the game first appears in Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast written by Ed years before the game was released. So although the designers made many errors, the did their homework on this one. |
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Eldacar
Senior Scribe
438 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 10:59:52
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I've got a question for Ed regarding mind-switch magic and the Chosen of Mystra. Specifically, how it relates to the silver fire/divine essence of Mystra that they carry.
I guess it comes down to how the silver fire/divine essence is tied to the Chosen. Is it linked to their body in some fashion or to their soul (or consciousness, mind, whatever you want to call it)? Is it some sort of change made by Mystra to the body of the to-be Chosen when she infuses it into them, or does she bond it to their soul, and the body that the soul is inhabiting simply has to change to account for the alterations being forced on it? Based on Ed's replies regarding the Nether Scrolls a couple of weeks ago, there seems to be the implication that silver fire can be produced without the user being a Chosen of Mystra if they can get the process from the Scrolls (though such secrets are/were kept very well-hidden, and I'd say with good reason), so it may not be tied to the Chosen at all per se.
If, for example, a Chosen of Mystra were to switch their mind/consciousness/whatever with another being on a permanent basis (3e rules allow this through the psionic power Mind Switch/True Mind Switch, though not being overly familiar with 2e mechanics I don't know of a comparable ability), would the silver fire/divine essence be "carried" along with them, since the mind you're displacing in the new body would get your old one? According to the mechanics/crunch, the person in the new body would retain supernatural abilities (of which silver fire/divine essence and presumably the Chosen of Mystra "template" as a whole would come under, excepting maybe the increased constitution they gain as a result of the alterations made to their bodies), but I'm not sure how this would work in concept (e.g. in concept, IIRC Ed has talked about how healing magic can vastly accelerate natural healing). What actually happens? By the mechanics, they keep the abilities of a Chosen (and presumably the divine essence), but what is the "descriptive" process for what happens?
I can't imagine Mystra letting silver fire be potentially stolen in such a fashion, for one (would she stop it from taking place at all, or have the silver fire removed from the body left behind like what happened with Sammaster?), but depictions of the Chosen in Realmslore seem to be along the lines of silver fire being tied to the body as much as the soul (e.g. Khelben at one point, I believe, mentioned that his body would have to absorb the energies of the Weave to build up a blast of silver fire for use against Phaerimm; though if that was simply an incorrect display then it obviously wouldn't be of any use, and several other aspects of the trilogy in question seem to have been largely discontinued).
Of course, given that I don't think any of the published Chosen have made a habit of body-hopping (that we know of...) it may be a moot point and they may not know what happens if they try, but I'm asking from a more omniscient view.
(All my questions seem to wind up being long, complex and twisting by the end. Apologies for that.) |
"The Wild Mages I have met exhibit a startling disregard for common sense, and are often meddling with powers far beyond their own control." ~Volo "Not unlike a certain travelogue author with whom I am unfortunately acquainted." ~Elminster |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 15:10:48
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Hi again, all. To The Silversword, Hildifons is right: the computer game Candlekeep heraldry is yet another blazon briefly used by Candlekeep in the "home" Realms (and is also canon). Ed tells me some monks make a hobby of designing new badges, blazons, and letterhead for the Keep, and often these efforts either creep into use or are formally adopted for a time . . . so there yet MORE efforts out there, some of them graven onto the lids of stone coffins of dead monks in the labyrinth of caverns beneath the Keep (see the relevant Wyrms article by Ed about the guardian dragon down there. love, THO |
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