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Gary Dallison
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Markustay
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 Posted - 17 Mar 2018 : 19:33:40
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Rereading what I wrote above, it seems more likely, actually, that Phaerimm are attracted to 'Gate Activity' - almost as if they are 'swimming' through the medium which gates pass (we see a little bit of this in the novel Elminster's Daughter). Different settings call it different things; I believe Narnia calls it 'The Wood Between the Worlds', and in the Wheel of Time its called 'The Ways' (IIRC). There was also a version of it in Sword of Truth (it was called 'the veil', and it was more like the border ethereal mixed with shadow). In The Forgotten Realms we call it The Road of Starlight and Shadows (which I think is actually a semi-physical manifestation of The Weave itself; what would be called 'ley-lines' on other worlds).
So what if these weird, germ-like creatures are some sort of 'infection' which spreads through 'open wounds' (the Gates/Portals)? The more gate-happy a civilization seems to be, the more likely they'll attract these things.
And, of course, the Sharn are 'antibodies', but I've been saying that part for awhile now. Thus, just like in mythology, the Crystals Spheres and/or worlds ARE 'The Gods' - those are the physical bodies. Perhaps Ed envisioned his D&D universe as a giant, living organism? If we go back to the Norse myths (and FR does have a 'Great Tree'), the universe is actually the rotting corpse of a proto-Titan (Jotun). So is our entire universe just a rotting dead body in the cosmic scheme of things? Are we in some sort of infinite 'field' somewhere with ginormous alien entities watching how how we decompose?  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 17 Mar 2018 : 19:45:26
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Originally posted by Markustay
Rereading what I wrote above, it seems more likely, actually, that Phaerimm are attracted to 'Gate Activity' - almost as if they are 'swimming' through the medium which gates pass (we see a little bit of this in the novel Elminster's Daughter). Different settings call it different things; I believe Narnia calls it 'The Wood Between the Worlds', and in the Wheel of Time its called 'The Ways' (IIRC). There was also a version of it in Sword of Truth (it was called 'the veil', and it was more like the border ethereal mixed with shadow). In The Forgotten Realms we call it The Road of Starlight and Shadows (which I think is actually a semi-physical manifestation of The Weave itself; what would be called 'ley-lines' on other worlds).
So what if these weird, germ-like creatures are some sort of 'infection' which spreads through 'open wounds' (the Gates/Portals)? The more gate-happy a civilization seems to be, the more likely they'll attract these things.
And, of course, the Sharn are 'antibodies', but I've been saying that part for awhile now. Thus, just like in mythology, the Crystals Spheres and/or worlds ARE 'The Gods' - those are the physical bodies. Perhaps Ed envisioned his D&D universe as a giant, living organism? If we go back to the Norse myths (and FR does have a 'Great Tree'), the universe is actually the rotting corpse of a proto-Titan (Jotun). So is our entire universe just a rotting dead body in the cosmic scheme of things? Are we in some sort of infinite 'field' somewhere with ginormous alien entities watching how how we decompose?
Along those lines to a degree there's similar creatures in the yuirwood realm of the star elves... forget their names. They're kind of attracted to extradimensional spaces it seems. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Mar 2018 : 03:22:40
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Originally posted by sleyvas
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Originally posted by Markustay
Rereading what I wrote above, it seems more likely, actually, that Phaerimm are attracted to 'Gate Activity' - almost as if they are 'swimming' through the medium which gates pass (we see a little bit of this in the novel Elminster's Daughter). Different settings call it different things; I believe Narnia calls it 'The Wood Between the Worlds', and in the Wheel of Time its called 'The Ways' (IIRC). There was also a version of it in Sword of Truth (it was called 'the veil', and it was more like the border ethereal mixed with shadow). In The Forgotten Realms we call it The Road of Starlight and Shadows (which I think is actually a semi-physical manifestation of The Weave itself; what would be called 'ley-lines' on other worlds).
So what if these weird, germ-like creatures are some sort of 'infection' which spreads through 'open wounds' (the Gates/Portals)? The more gate-happy a civilization seems to be, the more likely they'll attract these things.
And, of course, the Sharn are 'antibodies', but I've been saying that part for awhile now. Thus, just like in mythology, the Crystals Spheres and/or worlds ARE 'The Gods' - those are the physical bodies. Perhaps Ed envisioned his D&D universe as a giant, living organism? If we go back to the Norse myths (and FR does have a 'Great Tree'), the universe is actually the rotting corpse of a proto-Titan (Jotun). So is our entire universe just a rotting dead body in the cosmic scheme of things? Are we in some sort of infinite 'field' somewhere with ginormous alien entities watching how how we decompose?
Along those lines to a degree there's similar creatures in the yuirwood realm of the star elves... forget their names. They're kind of attracted to extradimensional spaces it seems.
Nishruu, maybe? |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Demzer
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 18 Mar 2018 : 14:41:27
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Originally posted by Brimstone
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Originally posted by sleyvas
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Originally posted by Markustay
Rereading what I wrote above, it seems more likely, actually, that Phaerimm are attracted to 'Gate Activity' - almost as if they are 'swimming' through the medium which gates pass (we see a little bit of this in the novel Elminster's Daughter). Different settings call it different things; I believe Narnia calls it 'The Wood Between the Worlds', and in the Wheel of Time its called 'The Ways' (IIRC). There was also a version of it in Sword of Truth (it was called 'the veil', and it was more like the border ethereal mixed with shadow). In The Forgotten Realms we call it The Road of Starlight and Shadows (which I think is actually a semi-physical manifestation of The Weave itself; what would be called 'ley-lines' on other worlds).
So what if these weird, germ-like creatures are some sort of 'infection' which spreads through 'open wounds' (the Gates/Portals)? The more gate-happy a civilization seems to be, the more likely they'll attract these things.
And, of course, the Sharn are 'antibodies', but I've been saying that part for awhile now. Thus, just like in mythology, the Crystals Spheres and/or worlds ARE 'The Gods' - those are the physical bodies. Perhaps Ed envisioned his D&D universe as a giant, living organism? If we go back to the Norse myths (and FR does have a 'Great Tree'), the universe is actually the rotting corpse of a proto-Titan (Jotun). So is our entire universe just a rotting dead body in the cosmic scheme of things? Are we in some sort of infinite 'field' somewhere with ginormous alien entities watching how how we decompose?
Along those lines to a degree there's similar creatures in the yuirwood realm of the star elves... forget their names. They're kind of attracted to extradimensional spaces it seems.
Nishruu, maybe?
Nilshai. They're detailed in 3E Unapproachable East, appear in one of the Last Mythal trilogy (I think in The Last Threshold but I'm not sure) and are mentioned in other few rare occasions, in 3E. I don't know how the following editions portrayed or used them. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 22 Mar 2018 : 23:51:32
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So. like infections, there could be different types. Depending on what caused the 'world wound' will affect what type of critter shows up. Thanks for the info, guys.
So now I am thinking there is like a 'magical subverse' going one all around us, with all sorts of nasties swimming through it. Not The Far Realms - a similar concept but with a whole set of different, magic-oriented creatures (and part of THIS {D&D} universe, not a different only like the far realms or wherever the Obyriths haiiled from).
Perhaps the near-mythical Ordial Plane? Or just another aspect of the ethereal? (if you can somehow manage to 'submerge' into the deep Ethereal without leaving the Crystal Sphere, you wind up in some sort of 5th-dimensional 'basement' where magic and magical creatures dwell - a 'subverse'). |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 Mar 2018 : 17:55:02
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I knew it started with a N.
Like the "Upside Down" in "Stranger Things". |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 23 Mar 2018 : 18:15:19
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Like the "Upside Down" in "Stranger Things".
YES, exactly!  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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cpthero2
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Oct 2018 : 16:32:08
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Master Rupert,
lol...that would definitely be true. Though, if they could get enough variables and data points, they could do a multi-variable regression analysis and at least try to determine correlation (causality is almost never on the table as you know).
Do you think or know if there are enough data points to conduct such an analysis? That would be nothing short of awesome to see something like that!
Best regards,
P.S. How did that Lego Advent Calendar turn out for you? lol
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I dunno... Knowing that two events happened in the same 365-day span isn't enough for me to assume a connection.
My wife got pregnant this year, and I got a Lego Advent Calendar -- I know for a fact those two events aren't related, but they did both happen in 2010.
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