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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 23 Dec 2010 : 00:07:04
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I am making an elfling NPC that is a cultivator and purveyor of pipeweed. Is there a list anywhere of the various strains and what, if any, are the effects of smoking the various weeds grown in the Realms? I saw something of a list in the Smoking in the Realms thread, but it's not exactly what I'm looking for. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Sources?
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Edited by - Fellfire on 23 Dec 2010 00:25:30
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 23 Dec 2010 : 01:51:02
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I'm afraid only Ed could answer this to any definitive degree, as its not really a subject that's received all that much attention in the published Realmslore.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 23 Dec 2010 : 01:56:33
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Having said that, I'll note that the pipe is by far the most common way of smoking in the Realms. A range of plants are smoked [though they've never been properly listed {which is why I've suggested asking Ed}], with different psychogenic and medicinal effects:- for instance, Elminster smokes thalander and phaelder rather than tobacco -- which is widely available, and more often called tobacco than pipeweed though there may be a Realms term we've not yet heard. [But Elminster's eversmoking pipe is not famous: most people who've heard of Elminster wouldn't even know he smokes one, let alone that it's magical or anything about it.]
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 23 Sep 2020 : 16:14:30
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Doing my own bit of thread necromancy, here... I am suddenly, for reasons, thinking of pipes in the Realms.
Do we have any published lore on pipes and smoking, in the Realms, other than the passing reference there and there? |
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TheIriaeban
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Sep 2020 : 17:17:07
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Inside Raven's Bluff page 60 has this for the tobacco shop there:
Gloammg Dark--cures coughing
Gloaming Light--cures headaches
Ancient Ash--cures feaver
Burrowville Blueleaf--fights tiredness
Misty Moss--cures ulcers
Wizard Weed--removes wrinkles
Laughing Leaf--increases merriness
Dungeon Delight--warms body
Oscar's Only--aids eyesight
Nicotiana Night--aids sleep
Edit: Aurora's also has this on page 133: TABACCO: Dark and sweet-scented, this Nexalan leaf can be used for the same purposes as common pipeweed. However, there all comparison ends, for pipeweed cannot match the rich, full flavors of true Nexalan tabacco (or tobacco). I sell only the finest tabacco, imported directly from Nexal and packed in sealed pots to retain all its true flavor. Every pot comes with a complimentary churchwarden so that you need not delay your enjoyment. (100 gp/lb.) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 23 Sep 2020 : 22:39:52
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I'd found the Aurora's reference, but not the Raven's Bluff one -- I have the pdfs (and printed copies) but didn't think to look in them.
I was more interested in the pipes themselves, though, rather than their content. Is there some bit of lore there that I've forgotten?
I seem to recall Elminster's pipe getting its own write-up, but I don't recall if there is other pipe-lore anywhere. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Sep 2020 : 07:29:51
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Elminster's Pipe got a write-up in Polyhedron #70.
In the Al Quadim adventure "The Rose of Jumlat" in Dungeon #57 (p.46) it uses the term "dukhan" for tobacco which I've taken to be an Alzhedo word.
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TheIriaeban
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Sep 2020 : 14:47:30
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'd found the Aurora's reference, but not the Raven's Bluff one -- I have the pdfs (and printed copies) but didn't think to look in them.
I was more interested in the pipes themselves, though, rather than their content. Is there some bit of lore there that I've forgotten?
I seem to recall Elminster's pipe getting its own write-up, but I don't recall if there is other pipe-lore anywhere.
Well, as to pipes, cloud giants, smoke mephits, and leprechauns have been noted to use them in the Monstrous Manual (leprechauns specifically use the long stem variety).
Page 37 of the FRCS: The dwarves of Tarkhaldale were known for their carved pipes.
page 66 of the FRCS: "full-bowled pipe of gnomish make" (it seems that gnomes make distinctive pipes)
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 24 Sep 2020 : 16:17:07
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Originally posted by TheIriaeban
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'd found the Aurora's reference, but not the Raven's Bluff one -- I have the pdfs (and printed copies) but didn't think to look in them.
I was more interested in the pipes themselves, though, rather than their content. Is there some bit of lore there that I've forgotten?
I seem to recall Elminster's pipe getting its own write-up, but I don't recall if there is other pipe-lore anywhere.
Well, as to pipes, cloud giants, smoke mephits, and leprechauns have been noted to use them in the Monstrous Manual (leprechauns specifically use the long stem variety).
Page 37 of the FRCS: The dwarves of Tarkhaldale were known for their carved pipes.
page 66 of the FRCS: "full-bowled pipe of gnomish make" (it seems that gnomes make distinctive pipes)
Which FRCS? That acronym is used pretty interchangeably for the 1E and 2E boxed sets and the 3E book. |
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TheIriaeban
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Sep 2020 : 16:30:53
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| The 2e one (not the OGB). |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Sep 2020 : 17:26:36
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Are cigars a thing in the realms? I don't remember reading about them anywhere?
I just picture a fella on a pale horse riding in the Western Heartlands with two Starwheels on his sides and a wide-brimmed hat...smoking a nice cigar. =) |
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TheIriaeban
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Sep 2020 : 17:30:40
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Are cigars a thing in the realms? I don't remember reading about them anywhere?
I just picture a fella on a pale horse riding in the Western Heartlands with two Starwheels on his sides and a wide-brimmed hat...smoking a nice cigar. =)
Aurora's has cigars (pg 132).
Edit: Pffft. Who needs Starwheels:
Swordcoast Handbow: The first of these hand crossbows were created on the Sword Coast, hence their name. They all have a standard set of features:
• The enhancement bonus will be determined randomly like any magic weapon with any curse results being ignored. This bonus will be applied to any bolt/quarrel fired from the weapon so that they can hit creatures that have a protection against non-magical weapons or magical weapons up to amount of the enhancement.
• The cross bar will fold up next to the body and unfold automatically everytime the weapon is inserted into/drawn from a form fitted carrying pouch (holster).
• The weapon has an opening in the handle hidden behind one of the grips where the user can place a gem of up to 500gp value. With a gem in place, the weapon will automatically create and load a bolt up to 2 times per round giving the weapon a rate of fire of 2 shots per round. This rate of fire only applies if both the bolts are created by the weapon and each time a bolt is created, it reduces the value of the gem by 1 gp. Once the value reaches 0 gp, the gem is gone and no new bolts will be created until a new gem is inserted. Putting a new gem in the handle takes a full round and typically cannot be done while in melee combat.
• The bolts created by the weapon do greater than normal damage for bolts of those size (1d6/1d6 vs 1d3/1d2) and allow the weapon to have the same range as a light crossbow. Bolts used that were not created by the weapon have the normal range and damage for that bolt.
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 24 Sep 2020 : 18:55:05
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quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Are cigars a thing in the realms? I don't remember reading about them anywhere?
I just picture a fella on a pale horse riding in the Western Heartlands with two Starwheels on his sides and a wide-brimmed hat...smoking a nice cigar. =)
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cpthero2
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Oct 2020 : 22:14:01
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Master Fellfire,
Here is a link http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9025&whichpage=1 to another scroll at the Keep regarding this. I think they are all legitimate, I just can't find all of the sources. However, the Cormyrean, "West Fennet Number Three" is references in A Murder in Cormyr, quote:
"Your clothing," said he, "bears the odor of West Fennet Number Three, a pipeweed that the tobacconist in town refuses to carry because of its bitter aftertaste. Farmer Snaggard, having gathered a fondness for it in youth, grows a small plot of it every year for his own use only, and he has been an inveterate patron of the Swamp Rat since it opened."
Here is that list as well from the other scroll:
- Maztica
~Money~
50 gram pouch (80 gp)
Zahekarin (Dwarven variety)
~Axe~
50 gram pouch (1 gp)
- West Fennet (Cormyr)
~Afterburn~
50 gram pouch (6 sp)
- Neblin (Deep Gnome variety)
N/A
50 gram pouch (5 gp)
- Selterian (Halruaa)
~Shards~
50 gram pouch (3 gp)
- Bree (Liuren)
~Breeze~
50 gram pouch (100 gp)
- Silfarindrin (Elvish variety)
~Evereskan~
50 gram pouch (10 gp)
- Makepeace Pipe (Mastercraftworks) (30 gp) high quality item
Note: Pipe 13-15 inches in length made entirely of clay. Each pieces if fired in the magical kiln of the master potter llvn Makepeace of Corm Orp.
(*) similiar to the Churchwardens of Tolkien's Fellowship of the Rings novels
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