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coach
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Posted - 27 Nov 2010 :  19:52:55  Show Profile Send coach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
re-posted from the Questions for George Krashos thread

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The following timeline entries may be of assistance (all dates in DR):


-6850 The moon elves of the Yuirwood travel to the forest of Saerdath (Modern: Gray Forest), and establish the realm of Larlotha.

-2457 The Nar defeat the hobgoblin hordes in battle and force them west and south into the uninhabited lands of Caerthiilor where the hobgoblins establish the realm of Haekrukkha. The Nar humans settle the plains on the northern fringes of the Riildath.

c. -2440 The hobgoblins of Haekrukkha raid the forests of Larlotha for the first time, beginning over a century of skirmishes, attacks and invasions between the two realms.

-2287 In response to forest fires lit by the hobgoblins of Haekrukkha, the elves of Larlotha begin their final, genocidal war against the humanoids.

-2284 The dwarves of the Earthfast Mountains ally with the moon elves of Larlotha against the hobgoblins.

-2281 The hobgoblins of Haekrukkha are defeated and their realm is shattered by the combined forces of the dwarves and moon elves. The elves of Larlotha, led by their warrior-queen Eldratha, suffer grievously in the final battles losing almost a whole generation of young elves in the fighting. The few surviving hobgoblins flee to the sanctuary of the Giantspire Mountains.

-1335 The moon elves of Larlotha begin a Retreat to Cormanthyr with the marriage of their ruler and queen Ildranna “Starflowers” to Coronal Miirphys of that realm. Within fifty winters only small pockets of elves reside within the Gray Forest.

75 Year of Clinging Death
Several clans of moon elves from Rilithar in the Sword Coast North, arrive in the Gray Forest via a portal and establish the realm of Vedrymmell. They ally with the fugitive Crown Prince Baranth of Impiltur who in turn recognises their sovereignty over the woodlands.

77 Year of the Quivering Mountains
With the aid of the moon elves of Vedrymmell, Crown Prince Baranth defeats the treasonous Morlorn, “the Usurper King”, at the Battle of Ilithra’s Smile and is crowned king of Impiltur. The Obarskyrs are exiled from the realm.

As for the "end" of Vedrymmell as an elven realm, I haven't quite worked that out. That end has something to do with a lack of High Magic (see the High Magic chapter in the "Cormanthyr" accessory for an undetailed lore hook) and my feeling is that by 350 DR or so whatever disaster it is that brings this realm down, has occurred leaving a few small clans still resident there but no coherent elven realm.

-- George Krashos

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coach
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Posted - 27 Nov 2010 :  20:30:11  Show Profile Send coach a Private Message  Reply with Quote

don't know the source of this as it was deleted on my outline:

~ -2500 – The Dwarven clans from the mountains south and west of Mulhorand and Unther moved northward after their mines were exhausted and settled in the mountains between the Great Ice Sea and the Great Glacier and founded the Ice Kingdom of Dareth. Dareth’s first king was Orloebar Snowbeard

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coach
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Posted - 28 Nov 2010 :  03:39:30  Show Profile Send coach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
c. -4000 DR

Duergar carve out a kingdom in deep caverns below the Great Glacier

GHotR p26

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coach
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Posted - 28 Nov 2010 :  03:49:35  Show Profile Send coach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"""Personally, I think the Citadel of the Raven was the place the Kingkiller Star ritual was performed (and elves and humans were both involved in those events, although it was the Elves that actually performed the magic). Or it actually may have been in or near the lands controlled by Orchtrien (the dragon featured in that story in Realms of the Elves) - his lands were said to be NE of the High Forest, which was much greater in size back then (probably right up to the shores of the Narrow sea). It may have even been his capitol, Dawnfire, which would have been rebuilt several times over by whomever controlled it (it was said to be an immense city-sized castle... just like the Citadel of the Raven)."""

in the Rogue Dragon Trilogy and GHotR, this Kingkiller citadel is depicted as being WAY to the North, so Citadel of the Raven is probably out by being too far south

the first Ancient Elven citadel in the Rogue Dragon Trilogy is listed as being in the Novalurond Mts of the Great Glacier and that the party in that novel had to go even farther north to get to the Kingkiller citadel

GHotR lists the Kingkiller citadel as being located in the "northernmost reaches of Toril" which to me says a North Pole type area

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 10 Dec 2010 :  21:49:08  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just in a few weeks I will be putting up a booklet on the area of The Ride. It will have a good deal of information regarding this thread.

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