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Ionik Knight
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 18 Oct 2010 : 00:30:48
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Just got back from a weekend of cubscout camping. Scout activities, screaming kids, crying kids, bad food, making camp, breaking camp, flashlights, fires, fish tales, ghost stories, hot dogs, smores, pancakes and bacon! What a rush! Boy am I wiped out.
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Fools to right of them,
Jesters to left of them,
Clowns in front of them
Pun'd and parody'd. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2010 : 14:38:10
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Originally posted by Ionik Knight
Just got back from a weekend of cubscout camping. Scout activities, screaming kids, crying kids, bad food, making camp, breaking camp, flashlights, fires, fish tales, ghost stories, hot dogs, smores, pancakes and bacon! What a rush! Boy am I wiped out.
I feel the same way after an event of Dagorhir. The ones that I try to attend to are pretty close (only about 1 hr drive) and the campground is pretty nice but the trek to the battle-field is a long one up a huge hill. Plus carrying shields, my half-plate, weapons, javelins, and water can become tiresome. And I do love camping!! Camping and booze......... |
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Ionik Knight
Learned Scribe
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2010 : 15:19:31
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I miss going to SCA events. The tourney, the food, the homebrews, the belly dancing...
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Fools to right of them,
Jesters to left of them,
Clowns in front of them
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2010 : 15:36:38
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Ionik Knight
Learned Scribe
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2010 : 03:18:31
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Originally posted by Arik
Belly dancing?
Oh yes, oh yes indeed. |
Fools to right of them,
Jesters to left of them,
Clowns in front of them
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2010 : 04:42:24
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| I'm fairly certain SCA and Dag. events have much of the same "night-life". Belly dancing, drinking, singing around a fire, more drinking, complaining to friends about where your armor pinches you, yet more drinking, some more belly dancing.... Great times!!! |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2010 : 04:48:10
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| It's the same in IFGS. Some of those weekend games can get pretty interesting... |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2010 : 18:20:30
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Anyone else here ever do Amtgard? I attended a few events years ago.
I've only done Dagorhir and 1 or 2 SCA events (no combat though  ). I've known a few people who've played Amtgard and NERO, though I'm not to savvy on their set of rules. Also, there is this LARP group out of Maryland that goes really heavy into the RP'ing and has class levels, spells, such and such. It's pretty far away and a reason I've not gone to it. Besides, Dagorhir has enough RPing for my liking with the full-contact sports angle. SCA would be fun to play in if it wasn't so Real-World based and the fighting was more physical. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2010 : 01:01:06
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| I'd always imagined the SCA thing being a bunch of big ugly dunderheads denting each other's pseudomedieval armour with heavy sticks. But maybe those busty wenches (and belly dancing, booya!) make it all worth it. Perhaps I might possess sufficiently heroic virtue to rescue a few damsels and relieve them of some of their distress. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2010 : 02:31:13
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| I've met a few SCA folks, and they are quite serious about realism. They even occasionally host events to stir interest in Medieval history and life. They had a Christmas Madrigal one year in my old hometown. It was quite enjoyable. Amtgard is more fatasy RP and combat based, like a more fantasy version of SCA, but with padded weapons. (much safer than the real ones SCA uses!) There are rules for classes, levels, and so forth, But I don't remember much about it. |
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Ionik Knight
Learned Scribe
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2010 : 03:33:21
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
(much safer than the real ones SCA uses!)
Real ones? Did they change the rules at some point? Used to be ratan wrapped in duct tape and with a padded point if a thrusting weapon. Plus the armor requirements for combat are no joke. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2010 : 04:34:26
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They still use ratan wrapped weapons and all that and have added in some arrow-rules in the last few years. Though from what my friend told me, Knight espically hate arrows on the field because one "plink" and your toast (sorta like RL  .
As for their armor prereq's, yea SCA is pretty serious about your stuff being 14 to 16 gauge and in specific areas (head, torso, waist, hands, arms, and wrists). Though they require none below the knee and their shield-bashing (if you could call that girly stuff they do bashing) is all very straight forward.
I don't know about Amtgard, but in Dag., it's not uncommon (and slightly encouraged) to shield charge and bash people to get them out of the way. Sometimes its a down-right necessity to take down shield walls that look like this ------> Rome
But the fighting in Dag is alot of fun, and with as little or as much role-playing as you wish. For me, there's really nothing finer than putting a foam-tipped arrow into the grill of some leater armor wearing guy with a flail and a punch-shield from 15 yards away!! |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4213 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2010 : 18:23:24
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Ahhhh...the good old days of shield hooking (putting my shield under their chin and yanking up!). You should have seen the terrified faces when my brother and I would show up at the SCA...him being of the 500 pound variety of giant and still having arms that moved fast enough to totall crush someone with surprise. Fun times, fun times indeed.
While I liked to hit hard with a shield, my brother could actually lay folks low with a hit from his shield. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2010 : 18:31:53
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I've been to some SCA events. My in-laws are big into it and lent me and my wife costumes (I have my own stuff, but they require a certain level of authenticity). My bro-in-law is a knight (His armor cost hm a fortune), and my Father-in-law is an archer for the Kingdom of Eastwood (don't ask). I was asked to join the archers - I can shoot okay - but I just didn't have time back then.
It seemed pretty cool, but it was more then just a casual hobby - it was a lifestyle, like boating (which I used to do), motorbiking, or RVing. You have to give it a LOT of your time - more then I was willing to part with.
I still miss the mead..... |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 20:14:55
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Ahhhh...the good old days of shield hooking (putting my shield under their chin and yanking up!). You should have seen the terrified faces when my brother and I would show up at the SCA...him being of the 500 pound variety of giant and still having arms that moved fast enough to totall crush someone with surprise. Fun times, fun times indeed.
While I liked to hit hard with a shield, my brother could actually lay folks low with a hit from his shield.
That I didn't know you could do in SCA. From what my friend told me, your shield was used for minor "bashing" (ie. hitting the guy in front of you, shield to shield) but no head shots or shots to the visor or helm. Interesting........
@ Markustay: Yea, many of the SCA people really devote their lives that that lifestyle. Being from Pittsburgh and having the Pennsic Wars in my backyard (figuratively speaking)I know many people who spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on armor, equipment, alcohol, and camping gear (and I mean gear you'd find in a historical movie, not stuff from Walmart).
And as much fun as that atmosphere would be to live in for a while, I can't afford that, lol. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4213 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2010 : 21:37:59
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Originally posted by Diffan
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Ahhhh...the good old days of shield hooking (putting my shield under their chin and yanking up!). You should have seen the terrified faces when my brother and I would show up at the SCA...him being of the 500 pound variety of giant and still having arms that moved fast enough to totall crush someone with surprise. Fun times, fun times indeed.
While I liked to hit hard with a shield, my brother could actually lay folks low with a hit from his shield.
That I didn't know you could do in SCA. From what my friend told me, your shield was used for minor "bashing" (ie. hitting the guy in front of you, shield to shield) but no head shots or shots to the visor or helm. Interesting........
@ Markustay: Yea, many of the SCA people really devote their lives that that lifestyle. Being from Pittsburgh and having the Pennsic Wars in my backyard (figuratively speaking)I know many people who spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on armor, equipment, alcohol, and camping gear (and I mean gear you'd find in a historical movie, not stuff from Walmart).
And as much fun as that atmosphere would be to live in for a while, I can't afford that, lol.
You are right...you "can't" shield hook someone. You "can't" slam someone with a shield unless you are striking their shield.
You CAN force your shield against them, and then raise it for a strike...their chin in the way...that is not a strike; a push perhaps, but not a strike.
You CAN lay someone low with a shield on shield strike when you are the size of two men.
I wasn't infering that we used our shields as weapons; only that they were tools for more than blocking an attack.
In honesty, my brother's shield was HUGE and still didn't cover him well enough; so he lost more than he won, but in a REAL combat, I like to imagine that he would have torn an enemy limb from limb.
For me, I liked the SCA very well; but as others have mentioned, I didn't have time to devote to it.
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With the coming move from Montana to Rhode Island though...perhaps I'll find some more time... |
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Edited by - Dalor Darden on 22 Oct 2010 21:40:51 |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2010 : 14:40:28
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| I've been LARPing for over a decade now. My brother-in-law owns a LARP in the area and I have been to all sorts of SCA events as well. Nothing like toting 40-50 lbs of armor and fighting like the old days! |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2010 : 15:15:40
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Originally posted by Matt James
I've been LARPing for over a decade now. My brother-in-law owns a LARP in the area and I have been to all sorts of SCA events as well. Nothing like toting 40-50 lbs of armor and fighting like the old days!
This is where I lucked out. Dagorhir modified the armor rule a few years back allowing 18-gauge steel. So now my half-plate (I don't have chainmail or padding under it) is only about 25-30 lbs! Though my car-door of a shield is made of nice 1/2 ply-wood so it's heavy.
Heres a pic of me in my armor! Man I need to get back into the "swing" of things! |
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Daviot
Senior Scribe
USA
372 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2010 : 23:47:55
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Originally posted by Ionik Knight
Just got back from a weekend of cubscout camping. Scout activities, screaming kids, crying kids, bad food, making camp, breaking camp, flashlights, fires, fish tales, ghost stories, hot dogs, smores, pancakes and bacon! What a rush! Boy am I wiped out.
While I'm not a fan of LARPing/SCA/etc., I did rise through the ranks from a Cub Scout way up to Eagle Scout*, so I can safely say "been there, done that, I can empathize".
And while I don't wear armor, I do typically carry a lockpick, a first aid kit, a multitool/penknife, and ten feet of rope everywhere I go.
*So I'm Lawful Good, what's your point?  |
One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4213 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2010 : 16:33:03
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Originally posted by Diffan
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Originally posted by Matt James
I've been LARPing for over a decade now. My brother-in-law owns a LARP in the area and I have been to all sorts of SCA events as well. Nothing like toting 40-50 lbs of armor and fighting like the old days!
This is where I lucked out. Dagorhir modified the armor rule a few years back allowing 18-gauge steel. So now my half-plate (I don't have chainmail or padding under it) is only about 25-30 lbs! Though my car-door of a shield is made of nice 1/2 ply-wood so it's heavy.
Heres a pic of me in my armor! Man I need to get back into the "swing" of things!
Ahhhh...a lefty! I HATED you guys! LOL |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Knight of the Gate
Senior Scribe
USA
624 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2010 : 21:29:07
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| I LARPed for a loooong time, but have been out of it for years now. I still sometimes miss it, but as MT said, it requires a level of devotion that I don't care to give it just now. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2010 : 16:38:08
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Ahhhh...a lefty! I HATED you guys! LOL
Yea, you'd be suprised how much I hear that on the field. Often it doesn't become an issue when your in a shield wall, but one-on-one duels and skirmishes, it really comes in handy (pun intended).
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Originally posted by Knight of the Gate
I LARPed for a loooong time, but have been out of it for years now. I still sometimes miss it, but as MT said, it requires a level of devotion that I don't care to give it just now.
Yea, I hear you. The good thing about Dagorhir is that you can go very in-depth with your "character" or go very light and you can make it as intensive as you wish. I've been out since pretty much last April (an event called Gates of Fire) and have rarely been to practice but I can go whenever and just strap on the armor and go to town! |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4460 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2010 : 13:29:21
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
So is it just a local thing, or is it like Amtgard and has chapters in different areas?
Oh there are chapters in different areas, though often times multipul chapters in a relative location are grouped under the same Realm. For instance, Pittsburgh's Realm is called Angaron (the hills of iron) but we have branch units within Angaron like Sparta, the Sunhawks, Drentha, Blackguard, etc... that are either within a few hrs drive of Pittsburgh or in Pittsburgh itself. When we go to a national event (Ragnarok, Gates of Fire, Baden Hill) we all camp together and fight under the same banner. I don't think it's all that much different than Amtgard. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2010 : 02:18:28
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| Evidently not. Sounds like the same sort of set-up. When I (albeit briefly) was in Amtgard, I was in the emerald Hills kingdom chapter, which is the main North Texas chapter. it pretty much covers everything from south of Dallas up to the Red River area, so it's a pretty big kingdom/chapter. It had a web-site, last I checked, but I haven't LARP'ed in over a decade, so I don't know what the current situation is in it. |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
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