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barry
Acolyte
South Africa
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 Posted - 30 Sep 2003 : 20:46:35
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i would like to know who do you think to be thee most powerful wizard in the forgotten realms. if we go by the forgotten realms books who would it be ? and if its the campaign setting for forgotten realms including the masters of darkness eg telemont tanthul or lalock who woulld it be then and why,
how many netherlese king wizards are known to survive now, is Ioulum (first to float city see fr timeline) still alive do you think?
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AulayanDuerf
Acolyte
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Posted - 01 Oct 2003 : 04:36:54
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okay. This is just in my own head, probably. The answer is probably Elminster.
BUT. I'd have to say 'Larloch.'
I always loved the idea of 'Someone always more powerful than you.' Unfortunately, his level keeps getting reduced with every new edition of the Realms that is released.
In fact, I've scared my GM when talking about Larloch. Telling him everything I knew. |
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Jander Sunstar
Learned Scribe
Turkey
275 Posts |
Posted - 04 Oct 2003 : 23:07:16
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It is said Ioulum menaged to be alive because he left Netheril before Karsus cast his famous spell Karsus's avatar. And maybe he realized the presence of the phaerimm which was destroying the magical weave covering the land.
But Lorloch lived as a wizard at least to the end of time of troubles but ý read that he was killed by a banelich who was gathering the power of bane and bhall and lorloch was 45 lv. but it is not a realty. ý never saw any other scrolls mentioning that |
Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
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Jander Sunstar
Learned Scribe
Turkey
275 Posts |
Posted - 04 Oct 2003 : 23:14:16
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but for me the coolest and storgest wizard is Sammaster. he is awesome ý suggest eveyone to read the cult of the drogon scroll.you can find it www.wizards.com/dnd/DnDDownloads.asp
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2003 : 21:24:55
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My favorite mage is the Blackstaff...he is so multi-layered and such an intriguing personality...
And I believe the most powerful mage of all time was Karsus the Mad............ |
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 20:35:53
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| I would say talmunt, but for some strange reason was he beaten by gearhond or somthing like that ( you know that stupid elf) so he would be very powerful to and both are moore powerful then elmister i would say and who is these tanthul or lalock and karsus the mad was with out doubht the most powerful wisard who ever lived to this day. and That chosen of Bane dont rember his name is very powerful to |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Oct 2003 : 18:56:38
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| Based on the lore rather than game writeups (which are liable to change between rulesets and according to designers' whims), the front rank of Faerûnian archmages includes Elminster, Larloch, Maraunth Torr, Shaaan, the Simbul, and Szass Tam. |
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Feanor_Karnil
Learned Scribe
USA
132 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2003 : 15:26:45
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| Elminster is the most powerful of all the wizards in the FR. All the other chosen of Mystra fall under him. |
We live in a bleak world my friend, where heroes are few and shadows stalk us around every corner.
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Jander Sunstar
Learned Scribe
Turkey
275 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2003 : 23:56:04
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| At the begining of the Netheril Empire of magic, Szass Tam tremble in front of a netherese lich. Who is that fella tought Szass about Netheril? Is he Larloch? Does anyone have an idea? |
Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2003 : 07:13:16
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| I would make a guess that Karsus was the most powerful mage in FR.. Perhaps he might not even really be dead ( he did theoretically achieve godhood) but as for the confirmed umm living I guess you could call it... I would grudgingly admit Eliminster... the altruistic fool |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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lowtech
Learned Scribe
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2003 : 18:34:08
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| I don't know about the most powerful, but Larloch in his home territory would likely be the most difficult to destroy. Almost like killing Dispator in his Iron Tower... |
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Bladesinger
Acolyte
Turkey
35 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2003 : 21:46:24
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Well, Halaster, Zalathorm and the leaders of the Twisted Rune are also pretty powerful.
And who is Maraunth Torr, I've never heard of him. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Oct 2003 : 01:02:57
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| Maraunth Torr is a Hand of Fire reference (that I'm surprised hasn't surfaced before now, given some folks' love of 'Xest of Y's). Always possible he's being overestimated by the (Zhentarim) speaker. |
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zhentar reborn
Acolyte
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Posted - 11 Oct 2003 : 12:31:16
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The Great Circle of Thay is the most powerful wizard in the game. 182 levels of specialized wizardry will put a dent in old Ellie Mae and his 7 biz-natches!   |
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Knightcrawler
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Oct 2003 : 22:10:05
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| Larloch and The Srinshee would be my vote for the two most powerful wizards in the Realms. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2003 : 03:30:20
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Originally posted by zhentar reborn
The Great Circle of Thay is the most powerful wizard in the game. 182 levels of specialized wizardry will put a dent in old Ellie Mae and his 7 biz-natches!
Ellie Mae and his 7 biz-natches!!!!!Thats good,I haven't heard that one before. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2003 : 18:36:33
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| wel its true |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2003 : 22:21:52
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id have 2 say Elminster as the most powerful wizard in the realms...i mean hes lived 4 so damn long, hes done everything. hes traveled through the nine layers of hell, played a major role in the time of troubles...hes done it all!!!
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The Great Circle of Thay is the most powerful wizard in the game. 182 levels of specialized wizardry will put a dent in old Ellie Mae
what r u talkin about??? the Great Circle of Thay is not 1 wizard, in what game? we're talkin about in all the realms not 1 specific game, and 182 lvs...do u mean thats of all the Great Circle of Thay??? |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2003 : 12:37:49
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There are many mages of power who work quietly and subtly throughout the Realms. In a recent e-mail re crystal balls, Ed mentioned the following:
crystal balls that don't allow scrying at all, but
act as mobile gate ("portal" under 3E) locations;
again, attempts to use magic on them alert their
creators as to their location and who now has custody
of them (creators can 'see' and hear out of them at
all times, though they apparently remain dark and
lifeless). At least two Netherese archwizards (of
great magically-boosted longevity: Aunduth Tulethklar
and Donstul Narthimmur) still use this tactic to send
'snatch teams' of servitor monsters to gain desired
magic items from younger mages.
So, the most powerful wizard on Faerun might just be the one you don't know about yet!
-- George Krashos
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2003 : 16:22:09
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| If cYRIC was a wisard he would have ben the most powerful and the most powerful is one who use the the shadow weawe |
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Maecenus of Westgate
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 12 Nov 2003 : 20:05:32
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Well, if he were still alive, I think Karsus might hold the title. Perhaps Azuth or Velsharoon also, though we are talking ancient times. All of these guys obtained godhood, a position other powerful wizards have yet to claim. As for living mages, no one has mentioned the Simbul. She has held back the tide of Thay for years now and still manages to run a country relatively smoothly.
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 12 Nov 2003 : 22:28:00
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I agree with you on Karsus, Maecenus. He would teach ANY magic user a lesson. He even taught a goddess a lesson on the rightful power of magic. Too bad she was aggrogant and pathetically fought against him and caused the near death of magic as we know it...
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2003 : 03:12:51
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Originally posted by Maecenus of Westgate
I think Karsus might hold the title. Perhaps Azuth or Velsharoon also, though we are talking ancient times. All of these guys obtained godhood, a position other powerful wizards have yet to claim.
Im willing 2 bet that Elminster will achieve godhood at some point.(In my opinion, he should've become the new God of Magic instead of Midnight. He has done it all, traveled 2 hell and other planes, lived 4 centuries, traveled a great deal of Faerun, and much more, Midnight didnt doe much of anything 2 achieve godhood) |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2003 : 03:14:13
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Originally posted by Maecenus of Westgate
I think Karsus might hold the title. Perhaps Azuth or Velsharoon also, though we are talking ancient times. All of these guys obtained godhood, a position other powerful wizards have yet to claim.
Im willing 2 bet that Elminster will achieve godhood at some point.(In my opinion, he should've become the new God of Magic instead of Midnight. He has done it all, traveled 2 hell and other planes, lived 4 centuries, traveled a great deal of Faerun, and much more, Midnight didnt do much of anything 2 achieve godhood. she was involved with the whole tablets of fate thing but couldnt have done it without Elminster, n he is way more experienced) |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2003 : 06:33:03
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Heavens forbid!!!!
I'm willing to follow Azuth grudgingly (I'd prefer Savras, though) but I would not simply sit and let That fool rise to godhood... I'd follow Gond if need be but I'd use any means possible to unseat him.... I can barely stand Midnight..
I guess I should provide my own argument why (tis only fair). Personally, I think The Fool, and the Wh**e (as Cryic dubbed her) are far too good aligned to logically manage the powers that be. The accention of Midnight and her good aligned thoughts, I think are the main reason why the Shadow weave has come into play. Thus a balance is kept good magic=Midnight's weave Evil magic=Shar's Shadow weave... Although this does not bold well as since two seperate weaves may give rise to strife and Mage crusades (plus if gives the common folk too much reason to doubt all magic... Peasants are revolting, etc... )
Long Live Karsus! |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown |
Edited by - The Cardinal on 14 Nov 2003 06:38:06 |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 17:18:23
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| THE MOST POWERFUL WIZARD IN THE REALMS MOST BE ELMISTER I THINK. I THINK IT STANDS SOMWHERE THAT HE HIS THE MOST POWERFUL MORTAL THAT EVER HAS BEEN IN THE REALMS.BUT I THINK JON IRENECUS HAS A FEAR CHANCE, I THINK THAT HE IS ONE OF COOLEST. |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Nov 2003 : 20:06:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Ezindir the dark
THE MOST POWERFUL WIZARD IN THE REALMS MOST BE ELMISTER I THINK. I THINK IT STANDS SOMWHERE THAT HE HIS THE MOST POWERFUL MORTAL THAT EVER HAS BEEN IN THE REALMS.BUT I THINK JON IRENECUS HAS A FEAR CHANCE, I THINK THAT HE IS ONE OF COOLEST.
Well Met
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Ezindir the dark
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Norway
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 22 Nov 2003 : 11:10:27
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if elmister becomes a god then they have gone to far, i would rather have midnight the elmister as the god of magic but most both of them dead
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Ezindir the dark
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Norway
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mr.lee
Seeker
Norway
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Posted - 26 Dec 2003 : 16:40:01
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| hehe, I hope Alaundo let you taste the "Cane of the Irritated Moderator +4" there, Ezindir. I hate people that uses capitals! |
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the most powerful wizard in the realms and neths
