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The Red Walker
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 :  02:14:44  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Nice Interview I stumbled across :

http://www.flamesrising.com/elminster-must-die-greenwood/

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Ergdusch
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 :  09:52:59  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the hint!

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Dennis
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 :  21:01:38  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Thanks, Red Walker.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 :  01:51:07  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Your welcome guys, I saw two or three others on other sites after I found that, but didn't grab the links. They are similar , but each offers a different point or three.

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Elfinblade
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Posted - 12 Aug 2010 :  14:17:44  Show Profile Send Elfinblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice interview :)
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Archimedes of Syracuse
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 :  10:32:37  Show Profile  Visit Archimedes of Syracuse's Homepage Send Archimedes of Syracuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cool interview thanks, can someone explain to me the reason for word constraints, I'm not sure anyone would be bothered be longer books.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 :  11:08:08  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Archimedes of Syracuse

Cool interview thanks, can someone explain to me the reason for word constraints, I'm not sure anyone would be bothered be longer books.




Longer books cost more to publish, and there's a belief that certain genres/target audiences won't support books outside of a given pagecount.

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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 16 Aug 2010 11:09:04
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Not to mention that bookshops tend to prefer thinner books - well, thinner books that sell - since they take up less physical space than your steretypical fantasy phonebook-sized epic (which is probably only one part of a seven, eight, or, in one soon-to-be-finished case, fifteen-part series).

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Archimedes of Syracuse
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 :  06:21:25  Show Profile  Visit Archimedes of Syracuse's Homepage Send Archimedes of Syracuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I guess I can accept that as logical, thank you. What's the longest a FR novel is allowed to be, I'd say most are 305-315 but some, like Most RAS and some other notable authors can be up to 350.
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Dennis
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 :  06:24:08  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

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Originally posted by Archimedes of Syracuse

Cool interview thanks, can someone explain to me the reason for word constraints, I'm not sure anyone would be bothered be longer books.




Longer books cost more to publish, and there's a belief that certain genres/target audiences won't support books outside of a given pagecount.



Agreed.

But maybe WotC is just not confident enough to take the risks of any experimental publishing: say, publish a book that goes far beyond the usual limit of 300+ pages, maybe 800 or a thousand+, and see how well the old and new FR fans respond. Personally, I prefer books having more than 500 pages,specially fantasy. Ironically, though, my published novel was just limited to 200+ pages (and imagine my shock upon knowing I had to cut my manuscript from 778 pages to the prescribed limit), partly because of the target audience and mainly because of cost. Anyway, about experimental publishing, I remember Stephen King's case. One of his later books (sorry, can't remember what exactly; I only read few of his works) was published maintaining more or less the original number of pages of his manuscript. When it was well accepted, hitting the NTB as usual, his publisher gave him a 'somewhat' free rein to decide the length of his book. (Read, or at least take a look at his latest novel, Under the Dome, for a proof.) It's not absolute, of course.

J.K. Rowling's case is the same, so is Raymond E. Feist's and Neal Stephenson's.

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Jorkens
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Even though I would love to see a book by Ed published that gave him free reign where the length is concerned, I must admit that I really miss the old days of the 150 pages maximum length for pulpish Sci-fi and fantasy. Many authors got more into those books using a sparse style than many modern authors get by describing and spelling out things page after page after page. We really need to see the old ACE double format come back in use.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by dennis

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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

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Originally posted by Archimedes of Syracuse

Cool interview thanks, can someone explain to me the reason for word constraints, I'm not sure anyone would be bothered be longer books.




Longer books cost more to publish, and there's a belief that certain genres/target audiences won't support books outside of a given pagecount.



Agreed.

But maybe WotC is just not confident enough to take the risks of any experimental publishing: say, publish a book that goes far beyond the usual limit of 300+ pages, maybe 800 or a thousand+, and see how well the old and new FR fans respond. Personally, I prefer books having more than 500 pages,specially fantasy. Ironically, though, my published novel was just limited to 200+ pages (and imagine my shock upon knowing I had to cut my manuscript from 778 pages to the prescribed limit), partly because of the target audience and mainly because of cost. Anyway, about experimental publishing, I remember Stephen King's case. One of his later books (sorry, can't remember what exactly; I only read few of his works) was published maintaining more or less the original number of pages of his manuscript. When it was well accepted, hitting the NTB as usual, his publisher gave him a 'somewhat' free rein to decide the length of his book. (Read, or at least take a look at his latest novel, Under the Dome, for a proof.) It's not absolute, of course.

J.K. Rowling's case is the same, so is Raymond E. Feist's and Neal Stephenson's.




Well-established authors with bigger publishing houses can do things like that.

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