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Brimstone
Great Reader
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3287 Posts |
 Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 14:13:34
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Mod Edit: Altered the scroll's title somewhat, to more appropriately reflect it's content, and added some adhesive as well.
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Okay... I had some time today, betwixt calls, and prepped up this list. I just downloaded every single one of the files, so I know they're all there.
Note, however, that all I had was the FR stuff. I don't have links for the other stuff that was on that page.
I organized it all by alphabetical order. All the links but the one for The North lead directly to the files on the WotC site. The North's link leads to a still-extant page on the WotC site, from where the boxed set can be downloaded.
Arcane Age: Netheril--Empire of Magic
Calimport
Castle Spulzeer
City of Gold
City of Ravens Bluff
Cormanthyr
Cult of the Dragon
Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain--Maddgoth's Castle
Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain--Stardock
Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain--The Lost Level
Elminster's Ecologies, Appendix 1
Elminster's Ecologies, Appendix 2
Endless Armies
Fires of Zatal
For Duty and Deity
Four From Cormyr
Gold and Glory
How the Mighty Are Fallen
Lands of Intrigue
Mad Monkey vs. the Dragon Claw
Marco Volo: Arrival
Marco Volo: Departure
Marco Volo: Journey
Maztica
Ronin Challenge
Savage Frontier
Test of the Samurai
The Fall of Myth Drannor
The Horde
The North
Vilhon Reach
Villain's Lorebook
Volo's Guide to All Things Magical
Volo's Guide to Cormyr
Volo's Guide to the Dalelands
Volo's Guide to the North
Adding Wooly's links to the first post. Thanks Wooly.
Wooly edit: Couple links were out of order. Fixed. 
Brimstone Edit 09-01-2010
Needed to add this link.
BRIMSTONE EDIT 10-09-2010
Add quote with more Links.
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Okay, before you panic, what exactly are you looking for?
I can still get to the Realmslore, the Retired, Waterdeep News, Return to Undermountain, Class Chronicles, Border Kingdoms, and News articles.
BRIMSTONE EDIT 11-16-2010
Add some missing links. Someone will find them useful. Realmslore is always useful!
The Wailing Dwarf
The Tribes of Thar
The Cavern of Death
Ironfang Keep
The Purple Halls
Tomb of the Astronomer
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 15:30:12
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Yep, only a matter of time. The downloads page is still there, but clicking on older editions takes you to Wizard's home page. Fortunately, you can still get stuff under the Original Adventures link, which includes the 3.0 Tomb of Horrors and White Plume Mountain conversions.
Hopefully everyone got what they needed when they could. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 15:31:09
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Originally posted by capnvan
Interesting. I hadn't noticed the part underneath "Previous Edition Downloads" which says that they're "periodically culled."
Anyone else recall that?
I can't honestly recall. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4438 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 15:53:44
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| I hope they keep the Original Adventures around cuz I've been using them to convert to 4E and they're alot of fun. There was one adventure involving a Calzone Golem and it was hilarious plus fun to create the creature with the new rules. Garlic Breath weapon anyone?! lol |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4438 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 17:48:34
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Sadly it's true. WotC wants to protect it's current asset and by removing content of previous material, it (in their minds) supposed to strengthen the existing edition. I can't say that I blame them but I do feel it's unecessary because it has always been free.
Maybe WotC feels that by having it available it somehow undermines what their trying to accomplish with 4th edition and thus prevents newer players from seeing the older material and thus becoming interested in previous editions? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 00:44:49
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| I've not been able to find the new downloads page, if there is one. But I checked a couple of links -- the files are still there. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 01:13:42
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You know, when they first decided to remove all pdf sales (a move that still mystifies me), it was theorized that the downloads page would soon be taken down. When it wasn't, I guess we all forgot about that speculation... I'm not convinced that the page is gone, myself. WotC has a long history of casually rearranging their website, with no apparent rhyme or reason, and in particular without bothering to update any links.
As I've pointed out more than once in the past, there are files on the WotC site that were first posted around 2000 -- but the links leading to those files were removed 5 or more years ago. Still, you can get to the files, if you know the URL to the actual file.
I've (legally!) downloaded a lot of TSR/WotC stuff over the years. To make it easier to find, I've got a single, rather simple HTML page with links to all of my downloaded pdfs (the links are all to the files on my hard drive, of course). For reasons I don't recall now, I one day went thru and added to that page the links to the files on WotC's downloads page. I clicked on a couple of those links, and I found that the files are still out there.
So if this was a deliberate takedown, in an attempt to make sure no one could get anything that wasn't 4E, then it was very sloppy. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 01:43:49
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| Care to legally share your info oh mighty hamster of mischief? |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 01:49:40
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Care to legally share your info oh mighty hamster of mischief?
I, personally, think the Furry Hamster should probably hold off on that, at least until we know for certain the status of the "Previous Edition Downloads" on the Wizards website. [Unless, of course, you were referring to Wooly's HTML file, Dalor?] |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4438 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 14:03:35
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Originally posted by capnvan
quote:
Originally posted by Diffan
Sadly it's true. WotC wants to protect it's current asset and by removing content of previous material, it (in their minds) supposed to strengthen the existing edition. I can't say that I blame them but I do feel it's unecessary because it has always been free.
Sorry, Diffan, just for clarification - is that your personal opinion or did you see a posting from WoTC about the removal? I've been browsing some of the forums and the main site and haven't noticed anything, but it's certainly possible that I missed something.
Just my opinion through observation, nothing more. When I checked my links didn't work so by assumption I figured they went ahead and took down the free stuff.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 00:38:59
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Originally posted by capnvan
Why they'd want to remove material from which no profit can any longer be expected but which might have ensnared a new fan is beyond me. I can't imagine that it's a decision coming out of the gamers at WoTC. It strikes me as more likely to be the type of decision a "helicopter" Hasbro manager would make.
The move that puzzles me more is when they had all pdfs that were for sale discontinued. Those pdfs were the only remaining source of income for editions prior to 4E, but because someone pirated a 4E book, WotC decided to remove all legally available pdfs, save for those few free ones on their site (the ones that just had the links removed).
Not only that, but WotC killing pdf sales also violated the contracts between Paizo and their customers. With Paizo, any pdf you paid for could be downloaded as many times as you wanted. That was the deal Paizo made with their customers, and which WotC caused them to break. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 01:54:19
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| Well, asked what happened on the WotC boards and Mudbunny's response was that there's no information from above as to why or if they will bring them back. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4438 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 03:54:16
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Well I just checked the Original Adventures site and that is still up. What about the articles which dealt with other non-core classes (ToB, Complete books, etc...) being featured in the Realms? Are they still there?
Edit: Just found this so maybe someone can access older stuff through the link? http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/archfr/fr |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 05:14:59
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quote:
Originally posted by Diffan
Well I just checked the Original Adventures site and that is still up. What about the articles which dealt with other non-core classes (ToB, Complete books, etc...) being featured in the Realms? Are they still there?
Edit: Just found this so maybe someone can access older stuff through the link? http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/archfr/fr
Yeah, of the links I've got listed that I clicked on, only the old downloads page was gone -- everything else I checked was still there. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 06:15:00
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Care to legally share your info oh mighty hamster of mischief?
I, personally, think the Furry Hamster should probably hold off on that, at least until we know for certain the status of the "Previous Edition Downloads" on the Wizards website. [Unless, of course, you were referring to Wooly's HTML file, Dalor?]
Aye...the HTML file only.
That is the legal part.  |
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Joran Nobleheart
Senior Scribe
USA
495 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 09:34:09
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| I was saddened to find that the Jedi Counselling articles are now all gone, as are the RCR version of the Star Wars weapons, armor, and Heroes, Villains, and Starships of Revenge of the Sith. I was barely able to get my information on Mandalorian iron for my female Mandalorian warrior before they shut it all down. And I'm not a fan of Saga at all. Why did Wizards get rid of all their Star Wars related RPG articles, etc? |
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freyar
Learned Scribe
Canada
220 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 14:00:15
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I do remember the bit about periodic culling, but I'd assumed they'd forgotten about the old edition downloads by now...
The Star Wars articles may be all gone because WotC no longer has a license from LucasFilms for a Star Wars RPG. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 15:22:19
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Freyar has the right of it.
Joran, so long as it's still legal to share that info between friends, I've most of it saved. If you are looking for anything in particular, let me know and perhaps I can send it your way. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Joran Nobleheart
Senior Scribe
USA
495 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 02:50:00
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| Thank you for the information, freyar. And Sage, I really do appreciate that offer. Always nice to think of you and Wolly as friends. We really do have a great community here on Candlekeep, and I'm very grateful for that. I'll let you know if there's anything I have a question about. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 06:35:56
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Okay... I had some time today, betwixt calls, and prepped up this list. I just downloaded every single one of the files, so I know they're all there.
Note, however, that all I had was the FR stuff. I don't have links for the other stuff that was on that page.
I organized it all by alphabetical order. All the links but the one for The North lead directly to the files on the WotC site. The North's link leads to a still-extant page on the WotC site, from where the boxed set can be downloaded.
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Awesome Wooly! Thanks man. I'd "plus rep" you if you needed any more rep!  |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 07:11:17
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Maybe this thread should be re-named and stickied?
-- George Krashos
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 12:49:13
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Cool, so they are still around.
Great Idea Krash, and thanks Sage.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 23:51:56
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Cool, so they are still around.
Great Idea Krash, and thanks Sage.
*clears throat* |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 00:33:41
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| Yeah...give the Hamster his due! |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 02:30:46
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| Nay! I want his head to be so large that he will swallow a Black Hole! |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 02:37:15
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| Oh, thanks Intergalatic Space Rodent. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 02:57:46
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Oh, thanks Intergalatic Space Rodent.
That's a new one... I like!  |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 06:43:18
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Nay! I want his head to be so large that he will swallow a Black Hole!
If his head becomes that large, how will effect the physics of the Sage ToDo list? |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Previous Edition Downloads -- Current Links
