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Brace Cormaeril
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  00:40:31  Show Profile  Visit Brace Cormaeril's Homepage Send Brace Cormaeril a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
After a private exchange with Kyrene, I have buried that particular hatchet.
I hope that he can do so as well.

I offer my hand in friendship, Kyrene.

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HelldoG
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  00:46:03  Show Profile  Visit HelldoG's Homepage Send HelldoG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But why are you posting it here, insted of PM'ing him?

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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  01:19:37  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HelldoG

But why are you posting it here, insted of PM'ing him?

Because past instances of problems between certain scribes have been overemphasised by some others. At least this way, it's been declared by one of the parties involved that the air has been cleared. Thus, it provides less ammunition for trouble-makers to pounce on.

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HelldoG
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  01:43:07  Show Profile  Visit HelldoG's Homepage Send HelldoG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, ok. Then it's good. Sorry for not realizing that.

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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  01:45:50  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's fine. There's usually a great deal of debate and conversation that occurs behind the scenes anyway, so it makes sense that not every scribe would be clear on where things stand in situations like this.

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HelldoG
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  01:53:31  Show Profile  Visit HelldoG's Homepage Send HelldoG a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The title is a little confusing. As I said elsewere, my english is poor, so I didn't catch the meaning of "Pow-wow time?". I thought he's starting another troll thread. But I was wrong, thanks Lurue.

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Markustay
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  01:55:39  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I will apologize for my 'thinned-skinned' comment, having not been aware of what Kyreen said in the first place until just now (I missed almost a whole page on that thread).

I can't say weather that was just an honest error, or a very clever 'cheap shot', but I'm sorry for not believing you took offense.

And although I still stand behind my own posts in another thread, I modified them yet AGAIN a couple of days ago, just to keep the peace.

I abhor intolerance above anything else.

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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  02:03:46  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We're all appreciative for that, Markus. Thank you.

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Dracons
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  02:13:24  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage Send Dracons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah. That thread got pretty bad. I've dealt with enough scum that insult me, think I'm diseased based on just how I look.

Hell my own mom is sickened by the idea of hugging me. Whole family hugs each other. Not me.

Makes me a very sad and depressed person. But to see it here, when we all have a shared love? Scary.

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froglegg
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  02:35:11  Show Profile Send froglegg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I guess mom had it right, if you have nothing good to say then say nothing at all.

John

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  03:10:43  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jeez... I go away for a day of gaming and all heck breaks loose!

Glad to see some closure has come out of it, though.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Kentinal
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  03:41:23  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anything to add to post count?
Some closure claimed by one user does not indicate it even occurred.

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
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Dracons
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USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  03:44:37  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage Send Dracons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nothing wrong with increasing post count. As long as it stays on topic and is of use, rather then useless.


Such as a post stating "oh, you just post to increase your post"


(Coming from a person with nearly 3000 posts too....)

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Kentinal
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  03:51:38  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dracons

Nothing wrong with increasing post count. As long as it stays on topic and is of use, rather then useless.


Such as a post stating "oh, you just post to increase your post"


(Coming from a person with nearly 3000 posts too....)



Stays on topic?
Read my 3000 posts and you will know I was on topic. In this case it however appears a user is just claiming a peace treaty with one Candlekeep user and that was the topic. It might belong on a different shelf or under a bridge.

If you have a complaint about me, report me to the moderators.

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  03:55:04  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
GUYS! WTH?!?

You're actually going to argue over post count now?

Stop. It.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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froglegg
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  04:02:57  Show Profile Send froglegg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

GUYS! WTH?!?

You're actually going to argue over post count now?

Stop. It.


WOW!

John

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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  04:04:21  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agreed. We've Realmslore to discuss. Let's get back to it, eh?

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Kentinal
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  04:11:46  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

GUYS! WTH?!?

You're actually going to argue over post count now?

Stop. It.



Er, my main point point a claimed peace treaty, I just ordered my statements in the wrong order.

While post counts can matter to some, I even admit to watching them from time to time to offer congratulations of moving up rank.

My main concern, however was a claimed report of a peace treaty made in PM (that yet appears not to be confirmed).

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
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Dracons
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  04:41:15  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage Send Dracons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wasn't picking a fight at all. I had no complaints.

I'm pretty sure that alot saw the downward and harsh battle between those two, and he was mearly letting everyone know that hey, they are at peace now.

Did it belong in this area? That I can agree it did not. It should have gone in off topic, or another place.

But I'll shut up.

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Kyrene
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  06:44:48  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal

quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

GUYS! WTH?!?

You're actually going to argue over post count now?

Stop. It.



Er, my main point point a claimed peace treaty, I just ordered my statements in the wrong order.

While post counts can matter to some, I even admit to watching them from time to time to offer congratulations of moving up rank.

My main concern, however was a claimed report of a peace treaty made in PM (that yet appears not to be confirmed).

And that would be due to timezones. *drags cuppa fireswallow closer and looks for matchsticks to prop open eyes*

Kentinal, see what assumptions can do? I think you owe Brace a small one.

For the record (not that I like sharing PMs, but in this case it seems it's neccessary):
Brace assumed I had sniped at him with a "clever little [racial] slur." He assumed some other things. I assumed he was just 'crying Canis lupus' trying to 'score dabate points.' I assumed some other things. He now realises I'd have had to be a mind-reader to have hand-picked something that he'd be so offended by. I now realise that I had inadvertently caused him much hurt and distress.

Apologies were indeed exchanged and accepted. Now move along citizens, nothing more to see here!

Edit: script timeout *sigh*
Edit 2: I took MT's advice

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Dracons
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USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  06:53:58  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage Send Dracons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But... but...

I wanted to meow again. Why are you taking away my meow!

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Snowblood
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  09:07:35  Show Profile Send Snowblood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Markustay
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 :  19:20:00  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
First - Raising post counts

Next... Kyrene was NOT privy to my own personal knowledge of Brace's background - I felt it wasn't necessary to get into that with anybody and kept it private, and when asked about certain comments I tried to beat-around-the-bush as much as possible WITHOUT bringing-in anyone elses heritage (which is NOBODY's business)!

I feel this may have been partially my fault, for opening that particular wound (unknowingly), and I suspect Brace thought I talked to Kyrene (and we do PM, but I don't get into other people's personal business in those, just current issues). The knee-jerk reactions around here are getting out of control. I think I am still owed an apology by someone, but I won't get into that in an open forum. Insulting someone's intelligence and career choices was pretty damn low. It doesn't have to be public, BTW.

Kyrene - you may also want to re-word 'cry-wolf' - its kind of unbelievable the things people have taken offense at lately (and I don't mean you and Brace - I'm talking about something I said in another thread that was taken out of context, wherein someone assumed I was launching yet-another volley at WotC, when I was actually defending their actions as just 'business as usual').

Third, I think this thread was completely necessary - with the amount of animosity that's been slung-around lately, I think these things NEED to be out-in-the-open, just to avoid all this damn 'side-taking'.

There is NO damn sides - we are all here for the Realms - get over it and move on. Keep the 'drama' in the Realms, where it belongs!

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Edited by - Markustay on 19 Jul 2010 19:26:38
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Dracons
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USA
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Posted - 20 Jul 2010 :  06:51:24  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage Send Dracons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Alright. We all now.

So meow everyone. Stay off. Meow is final word.

Meow.

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Razz
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Posted - 22 Jul 2010 :  04:03:25  Show Profile Send Razz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just finished reading that other thread, now I understand this one.

I acknowledge the public apology between Brace and Kyrene...I assume that is why this thread is here?

And, to add...may whatever deity that still exists in 5E Realms save us from that eventual nightmare.
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froglegg
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Posted - 23 Jul 2010 :  03:11:26  Show Profile Send froglegg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Razz

Just finished reading that other thread, now I understand this one.

I acknowledge the public apology between Brace and Kyrene...I assume that is why this thread is here?

And, to add...may whatever deity that still exists in 5E Realms save us from that eventual nightmare.






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