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Shemmy
Senior Scribe

USA
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Posted - 20 Sep 2010 :  17:36:14  Show Profile  Visit Shemmy's Homepage Send Shemmy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis

Mayhap there was a difference of opinion as to what should be printed? We can only guess....



I've seen elsewhere that she simply got a really good offer elsewhere.

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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader

USA
3750 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2010 :  17:54:47  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Translation: She was tired of all the BS and found a place willing to giver her the respect and pay she deserved.... I've seen it happen many times, in various fields.

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491

"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4598 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2010 :  18:01:50  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe we shouldn't speculate and instead just read her own words on the subject: http://community.wizards.com/bookclub/blog/2010/09/17/bye!

Also, I happen to know a little about the circumstances of Erin leaving, and it isn't to do with disagreement as to content, etc. I won't speak for her, but I see no evidence of any grand conspiracy or a difference of opinion that's led to the exodus. More like unlucky timing.

Cheers


P.S. In other news, the FR Book Editor position is now open, for any scribes who feel they have the writing/editing chops and are interested in applying: http://tbe.taleo.net/NA4/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=HASBRO&cws=7&rid=6234

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"

Edited by - Erik Scott de Bie on 20 Sep 2010 18:06:05
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 20 Sep 2010 :  18:06:46  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe I've just gotten a bit cynical in my middle-years... I see that sort of thing happen a lot, though, and usually it gets sugar-coated into "she/he got a better offer."

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491

"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs

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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
15724 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2010 :  18:19:01  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, according to one designer I respect nearly above all others (top three), WotC/TSR/Hasbro does NOT pay "the going rate", which says a lot about all the people leaving... as well as the people staying.

Its in a thread somewhere, but I won't go looking for it, and I don't want to embarrass said person by quoting them this way.

On a brighter note, they appear to be heading in a new direction, and if these employee changes were the cause, or were an 'effect' of said 'new direction', then it could be a positive in the long run.

Lets wait and see.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4598 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2010 :  14:54:50  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Well, according to one designer I respect nearly above all others (top three), WotC/TSR/Hasbro does NOT pay "the going rate", which says a lot about all the people leaving... as well as the people staying.
To me that would seem to suggest that people stay because they really love it, but I guess one could look at it a different way.

Myself, I've discussed positions there with at least one freelance designer weighing the loss in income vs. the chance to contribute to something so near and dear to his/her heart.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Rosemary Jones
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USA
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Posted - 30 Dec 2010 :  05:21:12  Show Profile  Visit Rosemary Jones's Homepage Send Rosemary Jones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I posted this elsewhere but I wanted to let you know that former Wizards editor Phil Athans is making a serious attempt to be voted onto Survivor.

http://tinyurl.com/29ds7jy

I think we owe it to Phil to do what we can. I suggest sending out the link to your friends with the refrain:

Put a gamer in the game!

According to Phil's tweet about this today, the voting day is 1-11-11 -- maybe ask everyone you know to post on that day "Put a gamer in the game" and Phil's link at that time.

Let's roll a 20 for him!
Rosemary Jones

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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader

USA
3750 Posts

Posted - 30 Dec 2010 :  07:15:07  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm, the "ultimate" RPG game? LOL!!! I'd do it!

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491

"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs

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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
15724 Posts

Posted - 30 Dec 2010 :  08:17:34  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow.

No comment.

Okay... maybe just one... why do I find this so Ironic?

I wish him the best of luck, although I don't watch the show myself (then again, I might, if he were on it).

I wonder if they'll make him run the Watercourse.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Ayrik
Great Reader

Canada
7989 Posts

Posted - 30 Dec 2010 :  16:49:14  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He is Tom Hanks wearing a disguise. I'm good with voices, the ears never lie.

[/Ayrik]
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The Red Walker
Great Reader

USA
3567 Posts

Posted - 30 Dec 2010 :  17:24:17  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Wow.

No comment.

Okay... maybe just one... why do I find this so Ironic?

I wish him the best of luck, although I don't watch the show myself (then again, I might, if he were on it).

I wonder if they'll make him run the Watercourse.




That was actually 3 comments(two were questionish, but one was really just crafted to jab that trilogy to which shall not be named). 2 of which were....hmmm....less than nice?

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963

Edited by - The Red Walker on 30 Dec 2010 17:28:15
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Icelander
Master of Realmslore

1864 Posts

Posted - 15 Nov 2011 :  04:41:25  Show Profile  Visit Icelander's Homepage Send Icelander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

To me that would seem to suggest that people stay because they really love it, but I guess one could look at it a different way.

Myself, I've discussed positions there with at least one freelance designer weighing the loss in income vs. the chance to contribute to something so near and dear to his/her heart.

Cheers


I think that it is all but axiomatic that one writes and edits novels set in a shared RPG setting for love, not money. The RPG world pays very little compared to other fields.

Don't really see any way around it. Some people love their RPGs so much that they do lots of work for free. There are more people who want to work on the game or the game setting that they love, no matter the salary, than there are positions.

Za uspiekh nashevo beznadiozhnovo diela!

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