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Rich (and the authors of the anthology) really did not touch upon the Cormanthor drow at all during the events of the Last Mythal Trilogy from what I can remember.

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Originally posted by Markustay
#5 - Has technology made any advances forward, or have we actually taken a step backwards from a burgeoning Renaissance?

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#1 - I know the Zhents of Zhentil keep were destroyed, but what about the Zhents elsewhere? Who is in charge of Darkhold now? Citadel of the Raven?

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Originally posted by bagelz

The Eminence of Araunt, is Araunt a name I should be familiar with, or something that was made up specifically so that this group had no ties to previous editions?

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Originally posted by bagelz

I have question:
The Eminence of Araunt, is Araunt a name I should be familiar with, or something that was made up specifically so that this group had no ties to previous editions?.

And where can I find more information on Lod?

Thanks,
Bagelz

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The ...?

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I'd go with "made up" since this group only came into being after the Spellplague. Have you got the FRCG? There was a teaser/excerpt about "The Eminence of Araunt" at WotC back in the day before they released the 4E FR books, so it must be [more] detailed in the FRCG somewhere.

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Originally posted by bagelz

Side note, while looking for historical/mythological references to "Araunt" the word avaunt (french derivation, which would look pretty similar if handwritten) mean "hence, gone away, passed by". So if a dev had made some notes, then came back and tried to decipher his or her handwriting. The "Eminence of Avaunt" would be the "importance of those who have passed"
I think this is what I will be using in my campaign

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The Zhents elsewhere do exist under Lord Manshoon's last vampire clone.
I thought Citadel of the Raven was destroyed.

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Yes, the Eminence of Araunt is detailed in the 4E FRCG. It is a group of undead that view Tombs and Undead Lairs as a vast Empire of the Dead amongst other things...

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Thanks for the responses guys - I forgot all about this thread with everything else I have going on.

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The Zhents elsewhere do exist under Lord Manshoon's last vampire clone.
I thought Citadel of the Raven was destroyed.

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Is this definate?

What of Darkhold? Is it gone as well? Its fairly important for my CKC article; as in, I will have to re-think a LOT of it...

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Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, p. 106

Darkhold: West of Cormyr in the Far Hills is a high-spired keep rising from a bare rocky spur on the side of Gray Watcher Mountain. This echoing stronghold was a fortress under the control of the Zhentarim and remains so to this day, despite Zhentil Keep’s failed fortunes. Darkhold’s massive doorways, corridors, and ceilings of black stone were constructed for giants. Legends variously ascribe the keep’s construction to the days when giants ruled Faerûn or to elder elementals serving as slaves for the kingdom of Netheril.
At present, the citadel houses a force of Zhent mercenaries available for any task, no matter the perfidy required to undertake it.

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Casts *** Raise Scroll ***

I knew there was one with this topic - I just didn't remember I started it.

Landrise - does anyone know if its still there? I can't see any logical reason why Ao would put it back (or Grumbar), other than 'it looked cool'. Also, I can't believe I hadn't realized this before - the lower section of the Shaar - the Western Shaar, remained primarily intact. Sure, it became a desolate wasteland, but it was still there. The Upper portion of the Shaar - the part to the east of the Underchasm - had mostly gone 'underwater', including several HUGE mountain ranges... totally underwater... as in 'below sea level'. Yet, the lower side of the Landrise (hundred-foot cliffs, remember?) did NOT go under the water at all. In fact, it gained a little land (because the Lake of Steam lost a lot of water). {Heavy Sigh}

[b]Priapurl - This one falls-out inside the Lands Mouth[/i]. The Lands Mouth is (presumeably) gone, which is fine, but the seetlement is one Mike Schley's 5e map of the Heartlands. So after the whole filled-in, the town just reappeared? Is there any lore regarding its fate?

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Rich (and the authors of the anthology) really did not touch upon the Cormanthor drow at all during the events of the Last Mythal Trilogy from what I can remember.

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They were mentioned, as I recall, but there was only a scene or two with them. Again, as I recall.

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Okay, what happened to the Netherese?

I know that sounds like a rather stupid question, and I know we've probably been over it several times, but I am having a 'senior moment' right now. They're 'not around' in 5e, correct?

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Three ambitious heirs to the rule of Thultanthar—a city that no longer exists, though there are other surviving Netherese cities that could be taken over, and plenty of newer, non-Netherese cities that could be conquered, for that matter—survive and are working together.

Two are the beautiful and cunning sisters Lelavdra and Manarlume, both daughters of Prince Dethud and therefore Princesses of Thultanthar in their own right, a pair of unscrupulous, ruthless manipulators quite willing to seduce and cozen to gain their own ways. Manarlume is the elder sister and the more thoughtful, and Lelavdra is the more assertive and impulsive; neither wants to work or govern without the other. The third is the able arcanist Gwelt, whom the Most High trusted with organizing a resistance movement to the rule of the Princes, so malcontents could be gathered, identified, and later mercilessly dealt with in relative ease.

Now calling themselves “the Three,” these young and ambitious Shadovar seek to gather together surviving Thultanthans under their command, the two women claiming their right to rule by blood inheritance, and Gwelt claiming to be carrying out the orders of the Most High—authority Telamont expressly gave to him—in asserting his right to command.

At the moment, the Three are in firm accord and consider themselves good friends, though who knows what the stresses of decision-making over time will lead to?

Their initial actions have been to find and rally surviving Thultanthans (almost threescore arcanists of low rank, and just over twenty non-Shadovar Thultanthan citizens) to “the Court of the Three,” with Gwelt doing most of the hunting down and persuading. Their professed aim was to “continue Thultanthan society in a remote refuge and to seek a new role on the altered Toril we find ourselves in, keeping to ourselves more than we did before, and devoting ourselves in the short term to finding allies, identifying foes and likely foes, and hiding ourselves until we are strong enough to withstand challenges.”

Gwelt privately advised the sisters to establish close relationships with the best survivors, to tighten their loyalty, and to set them all to seeking other survivors and likely allies (working separately and in disguise). “Our pride was our folly,” Gwelt says often. “We shall make mistakes, but let it not be that mistake, again.”

Gwelt himself traveled about on this work, while the sisters set to work building a home for all Thultanthans who want to stand with them, with cached supplies, in one of the least ruined fortresses of those that were formerly part of the Citadel of the Raven. They are using their magic to conceal themselves from (and spy upon) the handful of Zhents already there and rebuilding the central citadel, trying to judge who to co-opt, who to eliminate, and who to deceive for as long as possible.

Gwelt found many more survivors than he’d expected to, but was rebuffed by a surprising number of them; individuals who now personally find freedom from the Tanthuls to be a sudden flame of vital life and refuse to step back under the heel of anyone. From now on, they’re going it alone, or cooperating with fellow Shadovar on an individual, probably temporary basis, on their terms.

Or, in other words, Faerûn has just acquired a large new supply of independent, opportunistic “loner” wizards who are far from novices and whose world-view has been rocked (so they are changing).

For them and for Toril, the future could hold—anything.

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Rich (and the authors of the anthology) really did not touch upon the Cormanthor drow at all during the events of the Last Mythal Trilogy from what I can remember.

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They were mentioned, as I recall, but there was only a scene or two with them. Again, as I recall.

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If we're talking about the Jaezred Chaulussin (sp?), then yes, there were a couple scenes with them in Last Mythal. I haven't read anything more about them, but that's not surprising, considering the 4E stance on drow, and even though that has (thankfully) changed with 5E, they haven't really been covered, either.

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Okay, what happened to the Netherese?

I know that sounds like a rather stupid question, and I know we've probably been over it several times, but I am having a 'senior moment' right now. They're 'not around' in 5e, correct?

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Thultanthar crashed on Myth Drannor and was destroyed. As for the consequences, this is from Ed himself:

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When the POSSIBLE danger of Thultanthar crashing became apparent (i.e. when the city started flying towards Myth Drannor, not when what El did became obvious) the Srinshee contacted all the Myth Drannan baelnorn she could and commanded them to get to the Tree of Souls and magically shield and defend it, warping the Weave to form a protective barrier around it (so when Thultanthar came crashing down, it would punch through the city like a spike, and protect the Tree). This was done, and the Tree has survived. There has been some consternation among certain readers about Myth Drannor being entirely in ruins, but not so. Like any city that’s been fought through, a big cleanup is in order, but Thultanthar is a pretty small city, and Myth Drannor, being “at one with the forest” [growing trees as dwellings, trees and moss and open forest terrain everywhere, not human-habit “pave over everything” architecture, is a very large (in footprint) city. So a relatively small area of Myth Drannor was pancaked under the shattered remnants of Shade.

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