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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 11:30:22
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Poll Question:
Ok, how about we use this poll as the definitive source to know which era of the realms each scribe prefers. Vote on your #1 choice and post it so we know who you are and feel free your #2 and on choices. Remember, this is not which ruleset (D&D 3.5E, D&D 4E, Pathfinder, etc...) you prefer to use, but the realms setting based on the choices. I'm putting this simply because in every thread it seems most scribes find the need to state which realms they prefer (which in itself is ok as long as there is no hate being spoken constantly, which has been ok lately) but that has lately acted (unintentionally on the scribes in question's part) as troll fuel. So here I bring this poll/thread in hopes that it helps keep other threads clean of the hate railroading that has been occuring (if at least for a small ammount of time).
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Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me: http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 11:41:12
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Even though I don't foresee them as being high on the choices that will be made, I'd like to clarify the differences between the last two choices in order to avoid any possible confusion.
Arcane Age (other) means anything in the past realms (mostly a couple hundred years +), examples being ancient Myth Drannor, Athalantar, or even (once (if ever) made public through CC or another medium) Anauria through my Anauria article.
Other means anything else, such as recent past prior to the grey box starting year, or a spelljamming around the realms, or a significant alteration to cannon (such as a change to more than 1 Major Deity, multiple political changes or even re-arrangements of the land masses, etc...) |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me: http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31792 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 11:42:21
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Just a friendly Mod warning before we begin... Let's try to keep this discussion civil and respectful of each other's opinions. We're here to discuss ALL official interpretations of the Realms. I don't want to see a repeat of the recent series of problems plaguing other edition-based scrolls.
Thus, let me blunt:- If you've no intention of adding anything constructive to this discussion, please consider your reply before posting. I apologise for such harsh measures, but I think it's time to start trying a new strategy with respect to combating the types of "unfortunate" situations that have recently occurred. |
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Edited by - The Sage on 17 Jun 2010 11:45:11 |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 11:43:25
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I voted for Arcane Age: Netheril as my #1 place to visit in the realms. For my top three, it is:
#2 - Return of Shade #3 - Post Spellplague |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me: http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 11:45:32
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quote: Originally posted by The Sage
Just a friendly Mod warning before we begin... Let's try to keep this discussion civil and respectful of each others opinions. We're here to discuss ALL official interpretations of the Realms. I don't want to see a repeat of the recent series of problems plaguing other edition-based scrolls.
Thus, let me blunt:- If you've no intention of adding anything constructive to this discussion, please consider your reply before posting. I apologise for such harsh measures, but I think it's time to start trying a new strategy with respect to combating the types of "unfortunate" situations that have recently occurred.
Thanks Sage. My thoughts exactly going through my currently troubled mind as I posted this (I'd like to come to the keep as a distraction from the people at my two jobs that have been stressing me out, not to find MORE stress). |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me: http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Talwyn
Learned Scribe
Australia
222 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 12:24:54
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I'm in for the Old Grey box as it was just a great campaign accessory.
It had beautifully realised maps, great books that listed noble families and guilds and much much more.
It still has pride of place along with other D&D items that I have collected over the years.
Fun times
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Cleric Generic
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 12:27:00
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Good stuff.
Right, I went Post-Plague because it gives me alternative versions of some places I wasn't so hot on, and doesn't throw up any significant barriers to reinstating the bits I did like that were ditched. Also, stuff such as spell-scars and plague-lands tickle my DMing fancy. I'm not HUGELY familiar with the pre-ToT realms, but I'd really like to run a game in the Arcane Age prior to Lord Karsus' little snafu...
Also, my interest in the realms is largely that of a gamer, and more particularly as a DM, although it all exists in my own little imaginarium as well. I wonder if the Post-Plague realms are more popular, or at least less unpopular with gamers than with those that, for example, are more interested in novels?
EDIT: gettin' me some popcorn... |
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Edited by - Cleric Generic on 17 Jun 2010 12:32:02 |
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Tyranthraxus
Senior Scribe
Netherlands
423 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 12:29:44
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I voted for Return of Shade Realms (3E). My 2nd and 3rd choices would be Post Time of Troubles Realms (2E) and Post Spellplague Realms (4E) because I'm more fimiliar with those then the earlier editions. |
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Amarel Derakanor
Seeker
97 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 12:29:44
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I voted on the "Greenwood Realms". Easy choice. Guaranteed to be a 100% free of RSEs and real-world-culture-copies. Not to mention retroactive continuity and world design influenced by 'marketing strategies', which the 4th edition is full of. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 12:51:56
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The Return of the Shade for me, then I guess it's just before that with the post Time of Trouble |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 13:00:35
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I voted "other" because it depends. As a Scribe, I study whatever the current canonical year is at the moment. As a player I prefer post Time of Troubles. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 14:04:33
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I voted other. I like the Realms reguardless the time period. |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 14:47:02
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Old Grey Box and Post ToT... |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 15:00:24
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Voted post ToT. The 2e setting feels simply like "good old times" for me, classic realmsian feel whith less frequency of RSE than in 3e. It is the period I truly like as a player.
2nd and 3rd would be Grey Box and post-spellplague realms, also due to lack of RSE. |
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Apex
Learned Scribe
USA
229 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 15:02:29
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As a gamer (and usually the DM) I prefer the Old Grey Box, as it really creates a spectacular backdrop for the Realms that best brings out my imagination, without having to worry about being overly detailed or full of huge changes wrought by overeager game designers. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 16:55:14
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Though I loved the 3.x rules set and many of the novels set during that time, I fell in love with the setting via 2e era books, and so that is what I voted for. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31792 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 17:05:25
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I selected OTHER. And since I can't decide, I'm going to say ALL -- as every branch of the published Realms [and what we know of the unpublished Realms {thanks to Ed here at Candlekeep}] has eventually offered something of significant value that I can utilise in my campaigns.
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Asharak
Learned Scribe
France
270 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 17:05:54
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First Old Grey Box for ambiance and second Time of Troubles for lore (not the gods), after there's too much "is back again" (Shade, Imaskar, Baine...) , and for the last edition ... |
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Arioch
Learned Scribe
Italy
222 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 17:23:12
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I voted for 3Ed Realms. A lot of interesting hooks for epic adventures in there! I really like to give my players an epic scope to their efforts.
I do not think that 3Ed Realms is restricted to the return of Netheril, nor that it unfolds exactly as I hoped to.
As a second choice I loved 2ed Realms.. just because I started playing in that era! |
Edited by - Arioch on 17 Jun 2010 17:27:58 |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 17:46:16
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Voted for Arcane Age (other) - namely, Cormanthor. Wonderful thing. Second place for 3 ed. Realms - the return of Shade, Alusair as the Regent... drow on surface in Cormanthyr.... |
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Mr_Miscellany
Senior Scribe
545 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 18:50:15
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I voted "other" since I don't overly prefer one era to another. |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
757 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 19:19:37
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I voted "other" for anything that revolves mainly around Neverwinter (and the Sword Coast North around it) and the Cities of the Seabreeze in an un-destroyed state. That would thus preclude what had happened to those places post-Spellplague. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 19:23:31
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I'm with Misc on this one.
You should have had a 'no preference' choice - there are things I like and dislike about every edition.
The edition I have the least quibbles with would be 1e, but that's not the same as a preference. If I had a gun to my head I suppose I would have to say 3e, even though a LOT of what went into FR in 3e I dislike, if for no other reason then that it incorporates the largest amount of material I use (including all prior editions). |
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Archimedes of Syracuse
Acolyte
USA
28 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 20:39:35
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i voted post ToT. I got into the realms as an occasional reader right before ToT and for some reason it turned me into a FR only reader, and ever since then i haven't read a book outside of the realms. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 20:46:10
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I like the Realms-tapestry before it started being led by publishing, marketing and game-mechanical factors outside of world-building, but with the in-tune, good-faith elements that first figured in later Realms-years, from many authors, fed back in. For instance, in my Realms social and collective ties are stressed, Bhaal's and Myrkul's churches and the orthodox Banites are powers in the Inner Sea lands, Shandril's story proceeds as in Ed's unrealized outline, the Knights of Myth Drannor are in their prime in Shadowdale without that set-up being extended for decades Peter Panlike, the conflicts set out in the Old Grey Box can play out unsuspended, and the 1360s and 70s timelines are available for selective inspiration if I want them. |
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Corwyn the Errant
Acolyte
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jun 2010 : 21:45:26
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Old Grey Box, followed by the post Time of Troubles for me. It served as such wonderfully fertile ground for the seeds of my version of the Realms to take root in, until I have the verdant,tangled garden my players wander through this day. The much-repaired OGB still sees it's share of use, sitting at the head of the shelf containing all my FR books. |
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froglegg
Learned Scribe
317 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 03:00:09
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The Old Grey Box! What can I say other then it is pure grey gold or a fine wine that just gets better with age baby! Some of the 2nd and 3rd edition lore is good (No time for the time of troubles) As for what came after 3.5 well that realms is to me. Did not nore ever will happen in my realms. The goddess is alive and well and magic is a foot!
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4448 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 03:17:18
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I went with Post Spellplague primarly because I knew it would get little love. Aside from that, It's also the era I'm currently DMing my group of PCs. I find that a lot of that era is new and exciting and more to my liking than previous times in the Realms.
If I could choose a second era, it'd probably be the Return of Shade (3E) mainly for the rule-set but also because there is many adventures yet to explore as well as places to see. Definitly got some creative ideas for some campaigns set in that time. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36814 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 04:00:34
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I voted post-ToT. I came into the Realms while that was happening, and I "grew up" on the 2E Realms. Despite the bolt-ons of near-Earth cultures, I still feel that 2E was the high mark of Realmslore. We had good stuff in 1E, but 2E put so much polish on that. We had some good stuff in 3E, too, but even the best 3E material was only on par with 2E stuff. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31792 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 04:08:18
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Despite the bolt-ons of near-Earth cultures, I still feel that 2E was the high mark of Realmslore.
Personally, I like the add-ons, but mostly as independent settings and/or worlds separated from the Realms. And that's usually how I run them should I establish campaigns set in Kara-Tur or Zakhara, for example...
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