| Author |
 Topic  |
|
Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
 Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 16:21:18
|
quote:
Originally posted by Diffan
quote:
Originally posted by Kyrene
I don't think we're even allowed to design 4E crunch, or am I wrong? I know I kept my crunch OGL so that any 4E player can convert it privately.
I really don't see why not because I'm not taking something of 4E and turning it into 3e or any previous edition. Its more or less taking previous stuff and converting/updating it to 4E's rules (and I'm not even giving information about the rules.) Some clarification is required here :).
And thanks for re-posting my question Hawkins, much appreciated.
Hey Matt, do you have time to adjudicate on this issue? Also, has anyone who knows LFR people managed to get a hold of them to find out what their guidelines for creating crunch are? I think that if we stick within similar parameters we should be fine. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
|
 |
|
|
Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 20:57:39
|
I would assume that it is not only safe to produce 4e crunch - it would probably be welcomed by WotC staff - it would show our support.
A book with all crunch from previous editions would be frowned upon (although they could do little about 3e/OGL crunch).
A book with mixed 3e and 4e crunch could become a HUGE problem for us. Since WotC is no longer supporting OGL, and Paizo - their competitor - is, that would be a slap in the face. We would basically taking their IP and turning it into material that can be used with another company's rules.
Ergo, I will re-iterate what I said from the beginning - go 'crunch lite', or go 4e, for our articles. And by 'crunch lite' I mean the 'fluffy crunch' like we had in the OGB or the VG's, or tables and what-not that are edition-neutral (like a table to roll for a random effect from a magical artifact). if we put hard rules in for 4e alongside rules for any other editions, we are opening up a huge can of worms.
Even if they didn't really care, they would still be forced to act, because by not doing so, they set a precedent - one that could possibly stand up in court if they were ever challenged in some way concerning something they REALLY care about.
We are small potatoes - like a pebble cast into a pond - but we can create big ripples if ignored. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
|
Edited by - Markustay on 20 Jul 2010 20:58:41 |
|
|
|
Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3249 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 21:07:25
|
| I know I mentioned it before, but it was generally agreed that if you were going to put NPC stats, keep them simple. Like in the old 2E/AD&D days of (LN half-elf fighter 10). |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
|
|
|
Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
765 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2010 : 08:29:38
|
Yes, but what about magic or specific items, or like in my case the two items and construct I designed for my article? And doubly so, again in my case, where one doesn't have any reference to 4E rules to make the crunch 4E. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no free portion of the 4E DMG/PH/MM, like there was with the stuff that's under the OGL (I think those were almost word for word copies of the 3.5E DMG, PH and MM)? All this tiptoeing around the Fansite Policy (FP or whatever the correct acronym is) just confuses me all the time.
And, don't we run the risk of copyright infringement more when writing/designing under the FP than under OGL, even if anything Realms would not be covered by the OGL anyway? Could someone with a bit of knowledge in this area please explain it to us?
From what I understand CK hasn't signed [up for] the FP and therefore can't host any 4E material?
Even if the FP is signed, how much of 4E becomes availible for use to desgin more 4E crunch?
Regardless of the above, the Forgotten Realms is not covered by either the OGL or FP, so how much (if not everything) cannot be used due to copyright? |
Lost for words? Find them in the Glossary of Phrases, Sayings & Words of the Realms
|
|
|
|
Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 04:35:48
|
***BUMP***
Sooooo... what's the dealio?
We still waiting on Alaundo? Has anyone been in touch with him? |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
|
Edited by - Markustay on 10 Aug 2010 18:35:05 |
|
|
|
The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 05:35:07
|
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
We still waiting on Alaundo? Has anyone been in touch with him?
I have, and I've been waiting to hear back from him on this. Bear in mind, though, that he's been REALLY busy. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium -- Volume IX now available (Oct 2007)
"So Saith Ed" -- the collected Candlekeep replies of Ed Greenwood
Zhoth'ilam Folio -- The Electronic Misadventures of a Rambling Sage |
|
|
|
Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3249 Posts |
|
|
Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
|
|
Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2010 : 18:36:34
|
LOL...
Would you believe I am actually considering stating something with 4e stats?
Stranger things have happened.  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
|
|
|
|
xaviera
Learned Scribe
Canada
149 Posts |
|
|
The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
|
|
Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2012 : 01:18:32
|
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Well, I know for my part, I'm still waiting to hear back from Big Al. But I'll leave the actual subject of this discussion to Matt himself. 
** SUMMON SCROLL ***
I would like to revisit this once the 5e open playtest is well underway. A new OGL/GSL might be in the works as well. Either way. Wouldn't it be nice to have everything all set and ready for print prior? Who's in? |
Edited by - Matt James on 15 May 2012 01:19:04 |
|
|
|
Sightless
Senior Scribe
USA
608 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2012 : 01:58:35
|
"OGB or the VG's, or tables and what-not that are edition-neutral "
And so my questions begin, because often what you think something is, actually isn't. Blind men and the elephent, anyone, of course, nothing smells quite like an elephent, but enough of that.
OGB? this probably stands for the Open Game, something, not sure about the other one. I'll continue to follow this, and hold off posting major relms stuff, or rather anything related to something I've created, until its answered.
|
We choose to live a lie, when we see with, & not through the eye.
Every decision, no matter the evidence, is a leap of faith; if it were not, then it wouldn't be a choice at all. |
|
|
|
The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2012 : 03:38:31
|
quote:
Originally posted by Matt James
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Well, I know for my part, I'm still waiting to hear back from Big Al. But I'll leave the actual subject of this discussion to Matt himself.
** SUMMON SCROLL ***
I would like to revisit this once the 5e open playtest is well underway. A new OGL/GSL might be in the works as well. Either way. Wouldn't it be nice to have everything all set and ready for print prior? Who's in?
I'll say, tentatively, yes. So long as this supposed OGL/GSL proves to be less-vague in the legalese of using Wizards' IP, than it's current iteration, then I will indeed count myself among those scholarly folk interested in relaunching the Candlekeep Compendium. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium -- Volume IX now available (Oct 2007)
"So Saith Ed" -- the collected Candlekeep replies of Ed Greenwood
Zhoth'ilam Folio -- The Electronic Misadventures of a Rambling Sage |
|
|
|
Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3746 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2012 : 23:10:00
|
| -Not necessarily Candlekeep Compendium related, but does the website itself still accept and put-up fan-made stuff? I've been going through and erasing all kind of old documents that I have on my computer, and I found quite a few things that were Forgotten Realms related what I've written for whatever. |
(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
Elves of Faerūn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium |
|
|
|
Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2012 : 00:10:17
|
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-Not necessarily Candlekeep Compendium related, but does the website itself still accept and put-up fan-made stuff? I've been going through and erasing all kind of old documents that I have on my computer, and I found quite a few things that were Forgotten Realms related what I've written for whatever.
I would contact Alaundo. He is the one who posts such things on the Candlekeep site. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
|
|
|
|
The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2012 : 01:51:11
|
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-Not necessarily Candlekeep Compendium related, but does the website itself still accept and put-up fan-made stuff? I've been going through and erasing all kind of old documents that I have on my computer, and I found quite a few things that were Forgotten Realms related what I've written for whatever.
Yes.
As Hawkins indicates above, you're best option is to contact Alaundo.
I'll note, however, that there is no specific timetable as to when your material will be uploaded to the site. So I can only really say that it will be available to the rest of the community once Big Al has had the time to incorporate these items into the site archives. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium -- Volume IX now available (Oct 2007)
"So Saith Ed" -- the collected Candlekeep replies of Ed Greenwood
Zhoth'ilam Folio -- The Electronic Misadventures of a Rambling Sage |
|
|
|
Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4215 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2012 : 02:05:17
|
Alas, Big Al seems to be completely swamped with "the details" and sometimes may forget as well. 
Ixinos has been done for quite some time and still isn't on the site I don't think.
http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11767 |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
|
|
|
The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
|
|
Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2012 : 04:02:47
|
| Count me in. Very interested to see the Compendium released again. |
Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver). |
|
|
|
Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4215 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2012 : 04:16:25
|
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Alas, Big Al seems to be completely swamped with "the details" and sometimes may forget as well.
Ixinos has been done for quite some time and still isn't on the site I don't think.
http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11767
It can serve to politely remind Alaundo oft times, as well.
I sometimes believe that his "To-Do" list might one day rival my own.
The needs of The Keep can always be easily outweighed by real life! |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
|
|
|
Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3746 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2012 : 05:41:17
|
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Yes.
As Hawkins indicates above, you're best option is to contact Alaundo.
I'll note, however, that there is no specific timetable as to when your material will be uploaded to the site. So I can only really say that it will be available to the rest of the community once Big Al has had the time to incorporate these items into the site archives.
-Good to know; thanks. |
(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
Elves of Faerūn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium |
|
|
|
Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2012 : 17:00:08
|
Perhaps we could get similar status (just for the CKC) for our lore as the LFR guys got in 4e?
So long as everything was edited/looked-over by someone official (like Matt, or whoever will be in a CORE-tupe group). Since we don't all know about NDA's and other plans, the fluff would have to remain fairly self-contained (as it has been up to now... except for Gray's stuff, but most of that has gone canon now anyway).
I really wish this would get a reboot - I need to put my Ammathtar lore somewhere (solving the bad conflict between the 2e and 3e versions of it). I figure it could be part of an on-going "Places of Interest" series.
Glad to see this hasn't been forgotten.  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
|
|
|
|
Topic |
|
Pre-Organization of the Candlekeep Compendium
