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Mr_Miscellany
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 Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 23:24:18
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| Markus does your Cormyrian law piece have anything to do with portals (looks at my own compendium writing with a twinge of worry). |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 23:36:34
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Markus does your Cormyrian law piece have anything to do with portals (looks at my own compendium writing with a twinge of worry).
Nope....
Just the exceptance of non-humans as citizens of Cormyr, and the rights now granted to them due to that status. Nothing new, really (Elves, Halflings, & Dwarves, for example, were always accorded 'equal satus') - just some clarification as to what constitutes a "rational, thinking being, fully cognizant of it's own actions".
In other words, you can't just go and kill something and take its treasure simply because it is ugly. Having fought alongside Orcs during the Crusade, and seen first-hand what Eldreth Veluthra like to do to humans, Azoun IV found himself re-evaluating exactly what constitutes 'a monster'.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 00:56:49
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
There was an interesting tid-bit in Cormanthor: Empire of Elves that got my wheels turning. A couple of them, actually. One was the dragon oddity of Garnetesellar, and the other is what happened after Josediah Starym went down into the Twisted Tower after the Warrior's Blade. Neither has been written on, so far as I know (please let me know if I'm wrong) and I'd LOVE to do a piece on one or both stories. Would that be doable?
Does anyone know if either of these has been done before? I'm very interested in the lore of these two. For one, I'd like to do a piece on the history of that peculiar dragon. Does anyone know of source material about him other than the Cormanthyr book? And the same question goes for Starym and his quest to get the Soldeir's Blade back. (This one I'm particularly interested in because it ties into one of my fave NPC's, a certain drow ranger who ended up with Josediah's panther figurine...) I'd like to know if there is anything on either of these in the novels or other sourcebooks. the only thing I can find on Josediah is the short story in Realms of Magic. Thanks for any input on this.
I can't immediately recall any further info on either of these bits. Sounds like you're largely free to do as you wish.
I should note that this would've been the case regardless of whether we'd had any official lore. Most Realms legends and stories tend to have more than one interpretation. And since I'm almost always deeply delving into the subject of Realms music, I can usually appreciate that fact -- that there's more than *one* way to tell a particular story.  |
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Brace Cormaeril
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 02:27:47
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Actually, Markus, I would like to see that. (Sources?) My piece will deal Azoun V's decree reagarding Noble v. Commoners rights, and my take on how each will be judged by "peers".
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Brace Cormaeril
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 02:32:15
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 02:34:49
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Hmmm. Brace, you MIGHT want to wait until, oh, say, mid-August before finishing your planned piece. I'd say more, but NDAs prevent.
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 02:52:48
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 02:57:04
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You know Matt, I really can't believe it. I though the
lines in the sand were too deep to jump.
Alystra Illianniis, outside of published lore, this is the most
direct info you'll find on Garnet: see Steven Schend author's forum
page 53: If these more, his forum is where to find it.
Direct Quote by SES
Yeah, I've lost my notes as to exactly which dragon/great wyrm it was that slew Sylvallitham; anyone know/remember if I'd placed him among the slaughtered dragons down among the Lands of Intrigue? (I've been rereading those areas recently and was astonished I'd left quite a few rather ancient dragons in place and slaughtered many more younger dragons.....) I can state unequivocally that Garnetallisor was not the slayer of his mentor.
As for those "arcing bolts of electrical fire," I wanted to underscore that this critter was something special. For visual purposes, think of it like silver fire--it looks and acts a bit like fire, but inherently it's something else entirely. What exactly has yet to be statted, and I'd just as soon let GMs handle that.
If you need my opinion, I'd say it's exactly as stated--electrical fire that burns and shocks; damage is standard dragon progression of 2d8/age category but it counts as both fire/lightning while bypassing defenses designed against either one. (In other words, you're only immune to/defended against his breath weapon if you're immune/resistant to BOTH fire and lightning.)
Garnet was a wholly unique creature unlike any to exist before or since. He was a chimera of dracoforms, and the only reason he was red in color and blue in shape was this: Saeval Ammath had many secrets never revealed to elves outside of his clan, and often only to a few select members of his immediate family. Saeval's grandfather--an exiled elf who was born outside of Cormtanthor and never trod its paths--was a half-dragon, born of a silver dragon mother. He was a great tracker and wizard of Ardeep (Sure hope I'm getting my dates/names right, but I'm winging it here from half-remembered notes that don't survive; George and Eric can correct me before this thread closes. ) and patriarch of a loyal and good branch of the Ammath clan in those western woods.
Saeval came to Myth Drannor to learn more magics but also to cure a great sorrow of his own--the silver dragon (long publicly a family friend but in truth his own great-grandmother) had died protecting him and others from battle-maddened Hlondathan mages scavenging for any magics they could find (and they also took their trade caravan to be smuggling weapons and magic to the Cormanthan elves, their enemies in the Crown and Scepter Wars). Saeval preserved the dragon's soul in a brand-new kiira, and spent the next 50 years or so trying to find a way to restore her to life. He studied under many of the great wizards of Myth Drannor and COrmanthor of all races and he wandered far and wide (rumor has it he venture far onto the Great Glacier and as far south as Chondath).
When he found a blue dragon's egg in his wanderings, he magically kept it from hatching or developing, and he spent a decade of casting to alter its form into something powerful enough to house the silver dragon's soul. While he managed to match the power of the red dragons inside the form of the blue dragon and make other changes to allow for the magical transfer, he either could not or did not change the dragon's gender within its shell.
When the egg finally hatched in 348, Garnet was unique. Physically, he had to relearn everything to adapt to this new form, but mentally, (s)he had all the knowledge of her previous life. Thus, even at hatchling stage, he had access to the special abilities of a very old silver dragon (except polymorph self, as the magics used to create his new form locked him into one shape; and damage reduction, which is a function of the physical body, not the mind).
Thus, even while Garnet is now physically a wyrm, (s)he's gone into epic levels for certain special abilities. Assuming, of course, that he still exists...
Hope this explains why Garnet isn't either evil or the start of a whole new race of dragons. While one could postulate that he could mate with either reds or blues and have offspring of that hue/form, it's far more sensible (given the origin and attendant problems) to state that Garnet, while healthy in all ways, was born sterile.
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Brace Cormaeril
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 03:09:57
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Hmmm. Brace, you MIGHT want to wait until, oh, say, mid-August before finishing your planned piece. I'd say more, but NDAs prevent.
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THO
CURSES!!!
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 06:37:52
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Actually, Markus, I would like to see that. (Sources?) My piece will deal Azoun V's decree reagarding Noble v. Commoners rights, and my take on how each will be judged by "peers".
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I really dig how your non-canon piece could've inspired the genius young king, Markus.
Right, non-canon, but loosely based on a lot of things, most especially Azoun's changing attitude toward the orcs during the war. After the war, Azoun had a big ceremony, in Cormyr, wherein he awarded everyone who fought in the war a medal. The medals were not given in the field - I just re-read the end of Crusade - they were given in a ceremony in Cormyr. General Vrakk had such a medal (in Prince of Lies), and was very proud of it, and said Azoun had given it to him personally.
What that means, by deduction, is that General Vrakk recieved his medal of Honor, The Order of the Golden Way, inside of Cormyr, and inside the royal Compound.
An Orc, at court, recieving one of the highest honors in the land of Cormyr...
I had more here - lots more - but I snipped it for brevity. Suffice it to say that it is something that NEEDED to happen, not just in Cormyr, but in the ever-changing Realms. Trust me, there is a great deal of logic behind how I will present it.
Brian James was kind-enough to make several of my locales canon, and I think a bit of fleshing-out is in order. In fact, the lore behind one locale helps to explain the need for the law which led to the second locale. 
The Eastern Realms are really too vast for me to cover with any sort of thoroughness in a single article, so I chose instead to do a little something that DMs could actually find useful. |
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Brace Cormaeril
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 06:52:05
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Originally posted by Markustay
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Originally posted by Brace Cormaeril
Actually, Markus, I would like to see that. (Sources?) My piece will deal Azoun V's decree reagarding Noble v. Commoners rights, and my take on how each will be judged by "peers".
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Originally posted by Brace Cormaeril
I really dig how your non-canon piece could've inspired the genius young king, Markus.
Right, non-canon, but loosely based on a lot of things, most especially Azoun's changing attitude toward the orcs during the war. After the war, Azoun had a big ceremony, in Cormyr, wherein he awarded everyone who fought in the war a medal. The medals were not given in the field - I just re-read the end of Crusade - they were given in a ceremony in Cormyr. General Vrakk had such a medal (in Prince of Lies), and was very proud of it, and said Azoun had given it to him personally.
What that means, by deduction, is that General Vrakk recieved his medal of Honor, The Order of the Golden Way, inside of Cormyr, and inside the royal Compound.
An Orc, at court, recieving one of the highest honors in the land of Cormyr...
I had more here - lots more - but I snipped it for brevity. Suffice it to say that it is something that NEEDED to happen, not just in Cormyr, but in the ever-changing Realms. Trust me, there is a great deal of logic behind how I will present it.
Brian James was kind-enough to make several of my locales canon, and I think a bit of fleshing-out is in order. In fact, the lore behind one locale helps to explain the need for the law which led to the second locale.
The Eastern Realms are really too vast for me to cover with any sort of thoroughness in a single article, so I chose instead to do a little something that DMs could actually find useful.
Right on; what is this law? Will you be putting it up in the Compendium? I may just have to wait and see what late summer brings... |
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Markustay
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 07:56:13
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By Royal proclamation of King Azoun IV, delivered by the king Himself during the Festival of the Sword in Kythorn, 1368 DR.
"Let it be known that all sentient beings, of sound mind and lawful demeanor, shall henceforth be granted all the rights and privileges accounted to humans under Cormyrian law, and that as citizens of our fair realm will go unmolested, so long as they conduct themselves in a manner befitting a peaceful, industrious gentleperson, and cause no harm to others, either directly or indirectly, nor conduct any business which would be considered detrimental to the Kingdom or it's subjects."
This speech being delivered soon after a landmark case wherein a festhall owner attempted to bring a serial killer up on charges for having slain at least a dozen Doppleganger Escorts. Although claiming he was fighting for his life, it was proven he simply did not want to pay the required fee. The Cormyrian Court was forced to let the man go because killing 'monsters' is considered legal within the realm. Soon after, nearly half the coin-lasses and hundreds of nobles, aristocrats, and tradesmen petition the King for justice. Fearing a revolt (and unsure as to how many of these supplicants were themselves non-human), King Azoun ordered the man re-arrested. He was soon found to be already dead, his head apparently bitten-off by something very large. The above proclamation was made only three weeks later.
Hows that? |
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Brace Cormaeril
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 08:54:19
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By Royal proclamation of King Azoun IV, delivered by the king Himself during the Festival of the Sword in Kythorn, 1368 DR.
"Let it be known that all sentient beings, of sound mind and lawful demeanor, shall henceforth be granted all the rights and privileges accounted to humans under Cormyrian law, and that as citizens of our fair realm will go unmolested, so long as they conduct themselves in a manner befitting a peaceful, industrious gentleperson, and cause no harm to others, either directly or indirectly, nor conduct any business which would be considered detrimental to the Kingdom or it's subjects."
This speech being delivered soon after a landmark case wherein a festhall owner attempted to bring a serial killer up on charges for having slain at least a dozen Doppleganger Escorts. Although claiming he was fighting for his life, it was proven he simply did not want to pay the required fee. The Cormyrian Court was forced to let the man go because killing 'monsters' is considered legal within the realm. Soon after, nearly half the coin-lasses and hundreds of nobles, aristocrats, and tradesmen petition the King for justice. Fearing a revolt (and unsure as to how many of these supplicants were themselves non-human), King Azoun ordered the man re-arrested. He was soon found to be already dead, his head apparently bitten-off by something very large. The above proclamation was made only three weeks later.
Hows that?
Love it. Now, will the Compendium be out before mid-August?
(Cue Forboding music)
And will I buy this new NDA-Mystery shrouded, (4e...gross), Cormyr book...
By the Great Lady of Mysteries, who preserves us all, probably. CURSE YOU 4e! CURSE YOU! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 09:35:30
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| Part of the decision about going forward with this new interpretation of the Compendium depends on Alaundo's general "Okay" vote. So a definitive release date can't be confirmed until after that. |
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Zireael
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 10:11:42
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Can't wait to translate my Namarra/Aribeth de Tylmarande stuff...
 Aribeth!  I can't wait for your take on her. Let me know if you want to swap out ideas about her rise and fall in Neverwinter.
I haven't decided yet, but those two are my options for CK.
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Alisttair
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 14:21:08
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| As far as my Anauria piece goes, I have a rough sketch of the political boundaries from a photocopy of the map included in the Anauroch product. I'm hoping Markus or another willing cartography specialist scribe would be willing to have me send it to them to make it presentable for the compendium?? |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 19:45:52
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This is that map in its entirety - it was just a small insert on the 'modern' Anauroch map.
Anauria
I used some of those names for stuff on my Stonelands map, and Brian James was kind-enough to carry them forward onto the 4e Cormyr map. Which makes perfect sense, now that the Netherease who named all that stuff have returned.
I wish I had enough talent (or rather, just knew how) to create one of those animated GIFs - I would create a Faerun map with all the empires/Kingdoms rising and falling - I think that would give everyone a fair idea of just how many 'lost lands' FR truly has.
I'm interested to see what you do with Anauria - there's a wee bit of info on it in the Stonelands accessory that came in the Elminster's Ecologies box.
The history of that region is rather strange - I'm still trying to work-out how there was a powerful empire of Goblins directly south of Netheril, or how the Cloud Kingdom managed to co-exist with Netheril - both of which went to war with Anauria, which means they survived the fall of Netheril.
As for the Goblins, they could just have been a large community of slaves that mined the mountains for the Netherease, who managed to revolt and form their own Kingdom after the fall. The Cloud Kingdom is a little trickier - the easiest solution is to say it is a mostly-unknown Netherease survivor-state, but given the types of creatures that lived there (Avariels!), and the diversity of those creatures, its really hard to imagine the Netherease excepting them as their equals.
Trying to make them a Thaeravel survivor-state, but the time-periods we are dealing with here are just too vast. Also have Oghrann to juggle in there (large Dwarven Kingdom), as well as a much-older reference to the Tunlands belonging to Shantal Othreier (Battle of God's Theatre), and an even more primordial one dealing with the Sarrukh.
I have a basic history pieced together from a thread I was involved in long-ago, but some pieces just aren't fitting very nicely. I think the part about the battles between Anauria and the Cloud Lands I am just going to discount as mis-remembered half-truths; The Cloud lands falling when Karsus cast his spell makes the most sense, and the Anaurians - being Netherease themselves - could have easily been blamed for that. Still, the pattern of the stones, or rather lack there-of, indicates their fortresses didn't merely fall - they exploded in a catastrophic event.
Hmmmm... the Netherease weren't just a race, they were an Empire... now I'm thinking about Cloud Giant Archmages... except we have canon lore that the Netherease hated Giants.
I'll get it, sooner or later... something has to eventually click into place here...
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Love it. Now, will the Compendium be out before mid-August?
The Compendiums seem to work on some sort of variant of Sage-time - I would say August is a VERY optimistic target-date.... unless you are talking about NEXT August.
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sfdragon
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 23:11:08
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ummm just so that I DONT have to go looking for it, who do I get in touch with to send something for the next compendium???
assuming I finish in in time....
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Jun 2010 : 00:03:26
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Brace, it's more of a Cormyr NDA (she said, trying to thread her way through another NDA minefield). If you're concentrating on Azoun V rather than anything since, you SHOULD be okay.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 26 Jun 2010 : 00:30:59
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Originally posted by Markustay
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Originally posted by Brace Cormaeril
Love it. Now, will the Compendium be out before mid-August?
The Compendiums seem to work on some sort of variant of Sage-time - I would say August is a VERY optimistic target-date.... unless you are talking about NEXT August.
Neat. I get my own variant of a fictional Candlekeep-specific definition.  |
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Sylrae
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Posted - 29 Jun 2010 : 11:21:48
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Hmm. I've been doing some preliminary planning, and my Cormanthyr idea is clearly too big for a Candlekeep Compendium Article. I like the topic though. I think I may just write a piece of fiction that explores the city in the time period I want, for the compendium, as my little project is probably going to turn into at least a 30 page booklet.
The piece of fiction will be based on the other stuff, but it will be a lighter task that I can relax a bit with, and still include a shiny map of the city. I just have to make sure that the story adequately explores said city. :P |
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Alisttair
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Posted - 29 Jun 2010 : 11:38:19
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Hey Markus,
yeah, i've referenced the information in Elminster's Ecologies. I haven't gone inmuch detail regarding that (more just mentioned in the timeline) as I had spent more on other things with room to expand...it's a fairly large document (by my standards anyways lol - 13,559 words and 24 pages). EDIT: Just went over my notes and remembered, I made a section for the Enclave of Anauria (prior to the fall of Netheril) and one for the survivor state of Netheril.
The map you just supplied is the one I used...I just printed that map in black and white and, based on the information in the various sources, used a highlighter to mark the political boundaries of Asram, Hlondath and Anauria. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 : 17:12:50
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| Ah, althen, Sage- belss you both! And thank you for that tid-bit, althen, that will really help me get started on that project! As to the Starym and the panther, that one might take a bit of re-reading on my part, but should prove fun to work on. Is there any time-frame we are talking about here on this Compendium? (I mean on how long we have to work on it, not what time-period.) |
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Markustay
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 : 21:03:05
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In some of the Kara-Tur material I did, I connected Guenhyver to the Cult of the Panther in east (in a round-about way). It was this big, long, convoluted thing involving Rakshasa, their god, his brother, and the Kingdom of Petan (a secret kingdom of catfolk calling themselves Pantherans). I tried to connect a lot together, including an 8000 yr old temple and the Cat Lords (which appeared in a short story in Cormyr).
Basically, the females can take human form, plus a hybrid form, but the males are stuck in cat Form (very Large panthers). However, occasionally a male is born that can shift, or a female who can't. The male is considered 'cursed' and usually sent away when he is old enough.* The females, however, are considered blessed by their goddess (Baast under another name - guess at least least 3 deities are involved), and are counted as semi-divine.
That's pretty much all I had, aside from some truly ancient history concerning the Rakshasa, and I never developed how Guenhvyer ended up inside that Elf's statuette. He made that figurine, correct? Which leaves out the possibility the Catfolk made these idols that were somehow linked to their 'Blessed Felines'.
And since I doubt the Kara-Tur Netbook will ever see the light of day, I guess all of that really doesn't mater anymore.
*Interestingly enough, the males are considered blessed by the Cult of the Panther, who takes them in. They actually have a write-up in Ronin Challenge, IIRC. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 30 Jun 2010 : 21:24:38
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| No, it was made by a mage in Cormanthyr as a gift for him. I forget his name at the moment, but it was in a story in Realms of Magic. Guen was just a living panther who was killed as part of the figurine's making. How did you connect that all together? Is this all in official material, or was this a homebrew thing? Cause I only ever saw the tiny bits in the Cormanthyr book (in the time-line) and in that story. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Sylrae
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sfdragon
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Posted - 01 Jul 2010 : 04:40:38
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| no, the gwenwyvar deal was listed in the ghotr, created by a mage in myth drannor for some elf ranger |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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Sylrae
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Markustay
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Posted - 01 Jul 2010 : 11:45:24
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A lot of what I did regarding the Kara-Tur project was made unusable when the GHotR came out, which was a contributing factor to my giving up on the project (although far from the most prominent reason).
That bit there is mostly fan-material and nothing canon. Most of what I write I try to keep at least 75-90% canon, but I was really leaping when I wrote that section (we know absolutely NOTHING about Petan). It is probably close to 75-90% non-official.
There is quite a bit of lore revolving around felines in the east, from legends to actual demi-gods (and their catmen minions). There is also a decent amount of 'cat lore' in Faerun proper, as well, if one digs deep enough. All I did was try to get it all interconnected so it wasn't such a jumble of unrelated bits.
And the funny thing is, that particular train of thought began in the Utter East, where I began to notice quite a few Rakshasa active nearby (in the Golden waters region). I wound-up building an entire ancient history for Zakhara out of it (Zakhara's history only goes back about 1000 yrs or so, IIRC). The Rakshasa Lords were eventually driven from Zakhara by the very Djinn minions they had summoned. More fan-material, but I got a lot of mileage out of that particular line of reasoning. The Rakshasa practically became a 6th creator race by the time I was done with them.
Anyway Guenhyver is obviously NOT a regular panther. She may have been at one time, but she's way larger then a normal specimen, and far more intelligent. You can blame the magic ritual which bound her into the statuette, but I prefer to think she was somehow 'special' before that.
Besides, Elves lie... they lie all the time. Filthy beasts... quote:
Originally posted by Sylrae
I'm now imagining the same ritual, but with Drizzt replacing the panther. Sure Drizzt dies in the process, but I'm imagining the player who can summon him and use him all the time like drizzt uses guen. lol
Dear God NO!
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"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Edited by - Markustay on 01 Jul 2010 11:48:48 |
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Pre-Organization of the Candlekeep Compendium
