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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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 Posted - 21 May 2010 : 17:51:04
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Artemel
Learned Scribe
USA
110 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2010 : 20:29:11
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Tyranthraxus
Senior Scribe
Netherlands
423 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2010 : 20:41:44
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Originally posted by Artemel
As big as you need it to be.
Sounds like the size of a mountain to me  . In game terms though colossal is atleast 30 ft. by 30 ft. (3e/3.5) or 6x6 squares (4e) IRRC, but it's up to you. |
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2010 : 21:25:14
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
596 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2010 : 21:30:28
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what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
1291 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2010 : 07:31:55
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each size category is double. Medium is 4-8', large is 8-16', huge is 16-32', gargantuan is 32-64', colossal is 64'-128' (or higher). Not sure if there is an official category higher than colossal. I think I heard "Titanic" mentioned once. I've also seen "colossal+" mentioned. And then there is the truly cosmic in scale, but no official game mechanics for it.
There was an evil planet in Elder Evils, but even that they didn't give stats for, only the avatar of the planet, which they listed only as gargantuan in size.
If you have seen someone use colossal with pluses, then you can assume they mean colossal+ = 128-256', colossal++ = 256-512', and colossal+++ = 512-1024', and so on. |
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2010 : 07:47:33
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| Atropos... The only truly ominous Doomday monster for me. I guess his size is super colossal ++++. |
You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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Elfinblade
Senior Scribe
Norway
377 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2010 : 07:57:36
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
Atropos... The only truly ominous Doomday monster for me. I guess his size is super colossal ++++.
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2010 : 08:02:38
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| Have you not read the Elder Evils? Atropos, antilife orb made with Crystal Sphere to compensate the all life that was created. It roams the universe, killing all life and leaving behind only desolated desert filled with undead. It cannot be destroyed, only thrown away far from your world. It is a giant planet, destroying other worlds. Kinda like Galactus. |
You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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Elfinblade
Senior Scribe
Norway
377 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2010 : 08:29:19
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Ah i have not. All i know is that Atropos was a god of fate and destiny in the greek mythology, so i was confused for a minute there  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2010 : 15:01:14
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
Have you not read the Elder Evils? Atropos, antilife orb made with Crystal Sphere to compensate the all life that was created. It roams the universe, killing all life and leaving behind only desolated desert filled with undead. It cannot be destroyed, only thrown away far from your world. It is a giant planet, destroying other worlds. Kinda like Galactus.
Planets that eat other planets are no fun unless they transform and are voiced by Orson Welles.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2010 : 16:37:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Sill Alias
Have you not read the Elder Evils? Atropos, antilife orb made with Crystal Sphere to compensate the all life that was created. It roams the universe, killing all life and leaving behind only desolated desert filled with undead. It cannot be destroyed, only thrown away far from your world. It is a giant planet, destroying other worlds. Kinda like Galactus.
Planets that eat other planets are no fun unless they transform and are voiced by Orson Welles.
In my mind, I'm already imagining a Galactus versus Unicron face-off. 
The winner moves on the final stage to fight the Death Star II. |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2010 : 18:22:27
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In my homebrew ruleset (which is 90% Pathfinder/3.5, plus the opposed-roll mechanics from 4E and a couple of my own tweaks; still playtesting), I have introduced new size categories for just that reason. Colossal is still the largest (named) size), and Fine is still the smallest, but there are two more sizes in each direction:
- Fine
- Nano (It's a prefix, not a complete word, I know, but I wanted each size category to have its own distinct initial letter in English, and this was the best I could do even with a thesaurus. If someone can come up with something better, let me know.)
- Puny
- Diminutive
- Tiny
- Small
- Medium
- Large (2 x 2 squares)
- Huge (3 x 3 squares)
- Gargantuan (4 x 4 squares)
- Enormous (6 x 6 squares)
- Immense (8 x 8 squares)
- Colossal (12 x 12 squares)
Edit: It still doesn't cover things like the aforementioned world-eater, but it does cover creatures like Inferno and others that are bigger than the old system's "Colossal" size. Really, for sizes bigger than this, we're better off using something like the Star Wars Saga system, in which you have different scales of size, and each scale has its own set of size categories. (Sage or Wooly can probably explain better than myself how that system works; the last time I played Star Wars regularly, it used the d6 system.) I'd like to develop something similar for handling things like the world-eater, but mechanics are not high on my development priorities right now. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
Edited by - Jakk on 22 May 2010 18:35:45 |
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2010 : 19:00:15
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You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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coach
Senior Scribe
USA
479 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2010 : 19:02:59
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use the M for Miniscule instead of Namo
swap Medium to Average |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 23 May 2010 : 01:27:23
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Originally posted by Jakk
Really, for sizes bigger than this, we're better off using something like the Star Wars Saga system, in which you have different scales of size, and each scale has its own set of size categories. (Sage or Wooly can probably explain better than myself how that system works; the last time I played Star Wars regularly, it used the d6 system.)
There used to be a pretty worthwhile size-category comparison chart on the SWRPGNetwork boards. I'll have to search through their archives, though, or the Web' Wayback Machine to find it. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2010 : 17:15:16
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Colossal was taken out for 4E....
Which won't stop me from presenting my Colosal Red Dragon mini sometime down the road anyways |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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How big is colossol +++???
