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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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 Posted - 22 Jan 2010 : 17:05:09
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Hi...
Since I started playing D&D I have never see a class called "priest"!
Im thinking a cloth bearing spellslinging person, who most of all resembles a wizard, but with healing spells. A cleric who can wear plate armor is too much of a warrior pries at best.
So have anyone heard or seen such a class? If not I will then create my own class called "Priest" and make him a very powerfull healer!
any coments are welcome!
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 22 Jan 2010 : 17:23:37
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Actually, the term Priest wasn't used so that there wouldn't be any confusion between the game and the Catholic church, especially considering a lot of the early stuff going on regarding demons and witchcraft. Of course, the 2nd Edition "Complete Priest's Handbook" was released for cleric characters, which implied that the terms cleric/priest could be interchanged.
There is a non-official Priest class posted on the Wiki, but I can't guarantee it's quality. Most of the time, for my own campaigns, I'd use the Adept NPC class for any character that was a priest that wasn't a fighter-type. Or you could also check out the Healer class from the Miniatures Handbook. |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 22 Jan 2010 : 21:15:08
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At least in 2e, the term "Priest" was used to represent the sort of "super archetype" that divinely-inspired casters fell under. So clerics were a type of priest, as were druids, as were later classes like mystics and shamen. Each of the four archtypes had its own heading, and each was usually able to be used interchangably with its most-common class.
The other three were "Warrior," "Wizard," and "Rogue." Warrior and Rogue could be used interchangably in-game with fighter and thief, and everyone was calling everyone wizards and mages. It was a little less with cleric and priest, but still present. |
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1093 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jan 2010 : 21:57:47
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I think I need to create my own class for my game... I want one for my temple!
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Arzakon
Seeker
Spain
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Posted - 23 Jan 2010 : 00:56:40
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| I think there's something that might help you. I knew I read about a cleric class focused on lore and divine magic, just like a mage with divine magic (bad base attack, less armor proficiencies, etc). There's a class variant of the cleric in "Unearthed Arcana" (3rd edition). I don't know how to translate it, but the concept of that class is what you're looking for. It's a "cloister" cleric, or something like that. It's not a great class (I think they could have given more benefits, because they lose hit die and base attack bonus, and the only benefits are a few spells and a knowledge skill like bard knowledge). Maybe you could take a look and expand the class to fit your campaign. Hope it helps. |
Edited by - Arzakon on 23 Jan 2010 00:58:11 |
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Artemel
Learned Scribe
USA
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1093 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2010 : 14:50:27
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thanks for all the info... its great!
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 23 Jan 2010 : 18:39:59
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| I for one have always preferred the term "mage" to wizard and indeed, "priest" to cleric. Seems more accessible. |
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Fizilbert
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2010 : 22:32:57
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| I seem to recall something in 2E Forgotten Realms books about "specialty priests" as a class. |
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Daviot
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2010 : 23:26:50
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Originally posted by Fizilbert
I seem to recall something in 2E Forgotten Realms books about "specialty priests" as a class.
Indeed. "Specialty priests" were a modification something akin to the cleric prestige classes found in the 3x version of Faiths and Pantheons, with specific requirements and benefits based on a specific deity or religion. (Druid actually started as a form of specialty priest, IIRC.)
Personally, I use priest as a blanket term that describes any character that has the religious station, without necessarily the class. That is, certain churches in Faerūn allow druids, mages, or bards to hold the title of "priest", without necessarily having the "cleric" class. Likewise, a person without divine powers (a 3x "Expert" NPC, for instance) that takes care of the local shrine and can perform rites would likewise be considered a "priest". In some low-magic settings (or Eberron), a large chunk of a religion's priests may be Experts or other non-magic-using NPC's. |
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woodwwad
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 Jan 2010 : 02:23:56
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| In 2nd clerics were the guys that worshipped all the gods and were terribly generic. The priests or specialty priests were dedicated to a god, and they were all specialized, a much better class as it had a better feel. In 3/3.5 you can find a class real similar to the one you discribe called Healer. I think it is in more than 1 book, I have the class in a book called Complete Miniatures (I thinkt that's the name), anyway, the class is a weak fighter. It uses wizard bab and has really strong healing, also can only wear light armor. My friend Blair is playing one in a game we just started, that our friend Steve just started. It's a FR game. |
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 24 Jan 2010 : 08:01:37
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Miniature Handbook :)
and for a strong healbot i'd proberly use either Healer or (preferly) Favored Soul. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Jan 2010 : 08:44:45
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| I think the cloistered cleric is probably the best choice you can get with a non-militaristic style of Cleric. It loses a few perks (d8 HD, average BAB, and heavy armor) but it gains a lot of good bonuses plus you still have the versatility that makes the cleric one of the best classes (mechanically) in a 3.x game. While the Favored Soul can cast a lot more spells per day, it's selection is very limited so I'd suggest taking feats that allow you to maximize your healing potental and take a prestige class that UPs your healing too (Radiant Servant) comes to mind. And I think the Radiant Servant can be used in conjunction with Lathander/Amaunator but I'd STRONGLY suggest you ask your DM or if you are the DM to give Lathander the Healing domain. I really don't know why he doesn't have it in the first place to be quite honest. |
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woodwwad
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 23:52:20
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| Yeah, that seems a bit odd that Lathander doesn't have that domain. I think he has two of the nonbase book domains, I guess that's why he doesn't have that. I have a priest of Lathander in my current game. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Jan 2010 : 08:57:51
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Originally posted by woodwwad
Yeah, that seems a bit odd that Lathander doesn't have that domain. I think he has two of the nonbase book domains, I guess that's why he doesn't have that. I have a priest of Lathander in my current game.
I just give him the healing domain. To me, a god of the Sun, Rebirth, and Life has every right to the Healing domain. Besides, I think only 4 deities in the FR pantheon have Healing and Torm is one of them. Torm? I love the deity, but he really don't need to have it. |
Edited by - Diffan on 29 Jan 2010 08:58:38 |
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