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Brimstone
Great Reader
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 Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 18:29:28
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Champions of Torm
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Wherever villainy triumphs and injustice reigns, the servants of Torm bring truth and light to the darkest shadows. The divine servants of the Loyal Fury will not rest until they defeat the countless evils that beset the good folk of the Realms. Torm is one of the brightest divine figures in the Realms, and his priests are known for their valor and self-sacrifice. Should you choose the path of the champion of justice, walk tall and proud, carrying the weight of history and nobility in all that you do, bolstered with the feats, powers, organizations, and items in this article.
Before the Spellplague, Torm, Tyr, and Ilmater formed a “triad” of benevolent deities. This covenant has been renewed in the wake of Tyr’s death, with Torm, Ilmater, and Bahamut, who was promoted to occupy much the same knightly place Torm did for Tyr. While Torm is technically the god of law while Bahamut is charged with justice, a considerable amount of overlap exists between the deities, and Torm is known widely as a god of justice in addition to cold law. Torm and his priests err on the side of benevolence when determining lawful matters. The gods of the Triad make a perfect set of judges: Bahamut’s desire for justice balanced by Ilmater’s mercy, with Torm as the calm center
By Eytan Bernstein and Erik Scott de Bie
Nice little 4 page pdf.
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to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 16 Nov 2009 18:48:49
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 16 Nov 2009 : 20:23:17
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Glad you liked it, Brimstone. I look forward to any and all feedback!
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31727 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 00:06:06
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This was a well crafted article. And I can definitely see some opportunities for use in a potential side-quest of my current campaign. Overall, 'twas nice just to have some new Realmslore on Torm and Tyr. Plus, the bit which focuses on the relationships between Torm and the rest of the pantheon, was a welcome addition. Now I've got to make an effort to read the Eye of Justice from DUNEGON #171.
And, let me just say, Eytan and Erik make a great Lorelord combination. I hope to see more collaborative efforts from them in the future.
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 00:27:44
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Originally posted by The Sage
This was a well crafted article. And I can definitely see some opportunities for use in a potential side-quest of my current campaign. Overall, 'twas nice just to have some new Realmslore on Torm and Tyr. Plus, the bit which focuses on the relationships between Torm and the rest of the pantheon, was a welcome addition. Now I've got to make an effort to read the Eye of Justice from DUNEGON #171.
And, let me just say, Eytan and Erik make a great Lorelord combination. I hope to see more collaborative efforts from them in the future.
  . Lorelord Combination........involving Erik and Eytan... 
Sounds like something from the "Adult" section of scrolls. |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 14:36:51
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I for one am looking forward to seeing the look, as I haven't yet had a chance to download it. 
Are these good/useful articles to put up? I think that the 4-page PDF format (quick-in-and-out lore/mechanics) is pretty slick. What other religious groups in the Realms would folks want to see?
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 14:39:52
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 14:47:19
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I for one am looking forward to seeing the look, as I haven't yet had a chance to download it.
Are these good/useful articles to put up? I think that the 4-page PDF format (quick-in-and-out lore/mechanics) is pretty slick. What other religious groups in the Realms would folks want to see?
Cheers
I don't want to see Shar or Bane anytime soon. Tempus would be nice to see or maybe Waukeen. No wait...Kelemvor!!! |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31727 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 15:46:14
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Are these good/useful articles to put up? I think that the 4-page PDF format (quick-in-and-out lore/mechanics) is pretty slick.
Well, for my own tastes, I'd prefer more lore, since I tend to adapt most rules-related aspects to my own system of game mechanics. But I'd imagine the balance is fair enough for most readers.
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What other religious groups in the Realms would folks want to see?
Are you including Exarchs?
If so, my immediate choices would be, among the Greater Gods, Chauntea, Oghma, and Selûne. From the Lesser Gods, Gond and Sseth. And if you're also willing to include the Exarchs, I'd suggest, Milil, for what I hope are obvious reasons!  |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 16:01:46
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Um...all of them eventually.
I second this.
But any of the powers that got promoted first would be a start, then moving on to the regular deities - then feature the exarchs. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 17:05:54
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Um...all of them eventually.
Well obviously, but to be specific . . .
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Originally posted by Bakra
I don't want to see Shar or Bane anytime soon. Tempus would be nice to see or maybe Waukeen. No wait...Kelemvor!!!
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Originally posted by The Sage
If so, my immediate choices would be, among the Greater Gods, Chauntea, Oghma, and Selûne. From the Lesser Gods, Gond and Sseth. And if you're also willing to include the Exarchs, I'd suggest, Milil, for what I hope are obvious reasons!
Solid suggestions! Those will go into the ol' hopper.
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Any of the powers that got promoted first would be a start, then moving on to the regular deities - then feature the exarchs.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean(?) Do you mean promoted recently (Fzoul, Obould, etc.), or promoted at all (Bane, Kelemvor, Cyric, etc.)?
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Are these good/useful articles to put up? I think that the 4-page PDF format (quick-in-and-out lore/mechanics) is pretty slick.
Well, for my own tastes, I'd prefer more lore, since I tend to adapt most rules-related aspects to my own system of game mechanics. But I'd imagine the balance is fair enough for most readers.
Yeah, it's a balance thing. Though you can rest assured--those of us who know and love the Realms will never forsake the lore.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 17:15:53
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| The recent promotions of Obould and Fzoul would be nice. I would like to read more about Milil. |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 17:26:38
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I for one am looking forward to seeing the look, as I haven't yet had a chance to download it.
Are these good/useful articles to put up? I think that the 4-page PDF format (quick-in-and-out lore/mechanics) is pretty slick. What other religious groups in the Realms would folks want to see?
Cheers
Loviatat, Milil.....that would be a good
start! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 21:54:52
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Heh heh heh.
Just know that, if I did Loviatar, it would be really, really dark. (If you know my writing, you know what I mean.)
I'm hoping that these articles turn into a regular column about deities in the Realms.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31727 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2009 : 23:53:11
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Just know that, if I did Loviatar, it would be really, really dark. (If you know my writing, you know what I mean.)
Hmmm. I hadn't considered Loviatar. Heh. Consider it seconded. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 02:09:57
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I will note that they seem to have edited out my Sune + Torm = <3 sidebar, which I imagine they did for length.
They didn't remove the reference to it, however, so lest you think I am absent-minded, I shall share that tidbit here. Exclusive lore, straight from the author's keyboard, as it were:
A Divine Romance
Torm is linked to Sune Firehair, goddess of love, in many fanciful stories and romantic tales. Regardless of the truth between the two deities, their priesthoods often act out this legendary romance, and classic stories abound of courtly knights of Torm pining for alluring priests of Sune. In particular, the Lay of Jain and Elloe--about a knight of justice and the bard-priestess he loved--is a popular ballad, sung in taverns throughout Faerun, and a favorite of bards leading courtly knights into battle.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 05:20:18
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| Cool. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31727 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 06:07:48
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
In particular, the Lay of Jain and Elloe--about a knight of justice and the bard-priestess he loved--is a popular ballad, sung in taverns throughout Faerun, and a favorite of bards leading courtly knights into battle.
Neat. Any chance you've composed some lyrics for this particular ditty?
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 12:52:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I will note that they seem to have edited out my Sune + Torm = <3 sidebar, which I imagine they did for length.
They didn't remove the reference to it, however, so lest you think I am absent-minded, I shall share that tidbit here. Exclusive lore, straight from the author's keyboard, as it were:
A Divine Romance
Torm is linked to Sune Firehair, goddess of love, in many fanciful stories and romantic tales. Regardless of the truth between the two deities, their priesthoods often act out this legendary romance, and classic stories abound of courtly knights of Torm pining for alluring priests of Sune. In particular, the Lay of Jain and Elloe--about a knight of justice and the bard-priestess he loved--is a popular ballad, sung in taverns throughout Faerun, and a favorite of bards leading courtly knights into battle.
Cheers
I pointed the omission out at the WotC boards. Thank you for resolving the mystery for me. |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 13:52:20
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Heh heh heh.
Just know that, if I did Loviatar, it would be really, really dark. (If you know my writing, you know what I mean.)
I'm hoping that these articles turn into a regular column about deities in the Realms.
Cheers
That was why I suggested her to you....your the perfect scribe to "do her" right. Every now and then it would be good to just have some nuggets of pure darkness! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3287 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2009 : 17:35:46
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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Heh heh heh.
Just know that, if I did Loviatar, it would be really, really dark. (If you know my writing, you know what I mean.)
I'm hoping that these articles turn into a regular column about deities in the Realms.
Cheers
That was why I suggested her to you....your the perfect scribe to "do her" right. Every now and then it would be good to just have some nuggets of pure darkness!
That doesn't revole around Shar.
I like Shar and all, but give us a break. Loviatar would be cool consider it thirded, or fourthed.... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Champions of Torm (DDI)
