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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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 Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 14:43:12
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
This is what comes of speculation. I strongly urge you to stick with what you know, because what you think MIGHT BE the story will probably be repeated, reposted, and eventually accepted as factual. Please keep in mind that writers are not just bylines on a book: We are real people who have to live with the online biographies you write for us.
I hope Elaine doesn't mind, but I'm going to quote this particular bit from her previous post because it's a very important point. Especially since, we here at Candlekeep, pride ourselves on keeping up-to-date on the most accurate and detailed information as possible.
Wooly and I work very hard to ensure most of the more nonsensical and nonsense posts/commentary are either locked away or countered almost immediately after posting. It's long been our concern that such comments work against the spirit of an online message board -- particularly like what we have here at Candlekeep, which has a very specific topic focus. Thus, we try to guard against such nonsense whenever it appears as a potential disruption of an otherwise worthwhile discussion. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 15:27:24
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
This is what comes of speculation. I strongly urge you to stick with what you know, because what you think MIGHT BE the story will probably be repeated, reposted, and eventually accepted as factual. Please keep in mind that writers are not just bylines on a book: We are real people who have to live with the online biographies you write for us.
I hope Elaine doesn't mind, but I'm going to quote this particular bit from her previous post because it's a very important point. Especially since, we here at Candlekeep, pride ourselves on keeping up-to-date on the most accurate and detailed information as possible.
Wooly and I work very hard to ensure most of the more nonsensical and nonsense posts/commentary are either locked away or countered almost immediately after posting. It's long been our concern that such comments work against the spirit of an online message board -- particularly like what we have here at Candlekeep, which has a very specific topic focus. Thus, we try to guard against such nonsense whenever it appears as a potential disruption of an otherwise worthwhile discussion.
I must add that you both do a fine job of it. I imagine it is a lot of work and can be very frustrating, especially with repeat offenders. We are very fortunate here at CK to have two very dedicated forum admins who also participate so extensively. Kudos to the two of you.  |
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Amraz one arm
Acolyte
Netherlands
42 Posts |
Posted - 13 Nov 2009 : 16:27:13
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The lament is ours, the adventure his.
May the force be with him.
Thx for all the fun |
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Dart Ambermoon
Learned Scribe
Germany
253 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2009 : 00:39:37
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| All the best to Paul and I will certainly be picking up any future novels of his, regardless of genre, simply because he is a fantastic writer. Yet, rearding no more Realms by him...gutted. |
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Stout Heart
Learned Scribe
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 03:40:48
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Darkstar Daimonizomal
Acolyte
USA
17 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2009 : 07:41:08
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| As someone who is a casual fan of FR and only read around 150 books or so, I am going to miss Paul S. Kemp and wish him well in his new endeavors. His Shadow "X" series (Twilight Wars trilogy?) was a real pleasure to read. |
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2009 : 03:23:42
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So this is most likely in bad taste:
Can we start a pool on the next author to go? |
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2009 : 03:47:44
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36874 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2009 : 04:06:15
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Not only is that in bad taste, it's something that I'm going to officially discourage right now. I see any threads like that, they're getting deleted.
There's already enough negativity around; speculation like that would only encourage it. And speculation like that would also be something that most authors would not want to see. |
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2009 : 04:07:55
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I'd rather start a pool on who the next FR author will be. Some new blood will pick up the slack.
Anyway, Paul S. Kemp's departure is a loss for the Realms. I'm sure with his talent and now copious experience he will do well in other settings and possibly in his own original works someday, the sooner the better. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2009 : 05:04:39
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Originally posted by althen artren
So this is most likely in bad taste:
Can we start a pool on the next author to go?
Given the emoticon, I'll assume you meant this in sarcastic jest.
Regardless, I don't think such a scroll would be useful here at Candlekeep. And while I agree that it is bad taste, it would also further enflame the outside criticisms about this site being a bastion for the anti-4e FR league.
I will not have it!
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2009 : 05:59:04
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Yes, indeed sir.
My pardons. Was trying to
throw in a moment of levity in
a tense situation.
The site has the feel of a pressure
cooker. I think a way to blow off
the steam is getting to be necessary.
Just my opinion. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2009 : 19:22:20
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| Here's hoping Mr Kemp writes some Pathfinder fiction. |
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dwarvenranger
Senior Scribe
USA
428 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2010 : 17:20:18
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| Well bugger. Still ya got to respect a man who sticks to his guns. |
If I waited till I knew what I was doing, I'd never get anything done.
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 10 Jan 2010 : 21:06:00
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Originally posted by The Sage
it would also further enflame the outside criticisms about this site being a bastion for the anti-4e FR league.
Sage, you shouldn't have given it a name. Now they have a banner to rally around!
We. Are. The Anti-4e League!!!
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36874 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2010 : 21:39:06
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Originally posted by Arion Elenim
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Originally posted by The Sage
it would also further enflame the outside criticisms about this site being a bastion for the anti-4e FR league.
Sage, you shouldn't have given it a name. Now they have a banner to rally around!
We. Are. The Anti-4e League!!!
Let's not encourage this idea, please. It's already far too prevalent, given how vocal some of the anti-4E have been in the past. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jan 2010 : 00:25:37
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Originally posted by Arion Elenim
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Originally posted by The Sage
it would also further enflame the outside criticisms about this site being a bastion for the anti-4e FR league.
Sage, you shouldn't have given it a name. Now they have a banner to rally around!
We. Are. The Anti-4e League!!!
While I can appreciate the humour, I must also agree with Wooly. My intention above was not to specifically assign such thoughts to those who, for whatever reason, may have a degree of dislike for the 4e Realms. I was simply attempting to underline the severity of problems caused by unrestrained debate on the subject.
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jan 2010 : 21:50:47
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I too like 4e as a game system.
The regrets are, for me, the extreme jump in time with so many wonderful stories left untold. It has nothing to do with the game system any longer. |
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Shemmy
Senior Scribe
USA
492 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2010 : 01:39:14
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I like 4E.
And for various reasons I won't get into here, I don't like it.
But on that note, we probably shouldn't derail this thread by stating membership within the 4e fanclub or the polar opposite. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2010 : 16:38:49
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Originally posted by Shemmy
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I like 4E.
And for various reasons I won't get into here, I don't like it.
But on that note, we probably shouldn't derail this thread by stating membership within the 4e fanclub or the polar opposite.
Good point. Best to avoid that altogether!
Sage and Wooly, I am wondering if this scroll hasnt outlived its usefullness and is in danger of igniting?? |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36874 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2010 : 23:25:56
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Sage and Wooly, I am wondering if this scroll hasnt outlived its usefullness and is in danger of igniting??
As long as we get back to the original topic, I think it's fine. We obviously don't need another edition debate, but it's a fact that Mr. Kemp has a lot of fans. This thread is a good place for them to express their feelings on the issue of him separating from WotC. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2010 : 23:30:54
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Shemmy
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I like 4E.
And for various reasons I won't get into here, I don't like it.
But on that note, we probably shouldn't derail this thread by stating membership within the 4e fanclub or the polar opposite.
Good point. Best to avoid that altogether!
Sage and Wooly, I am wondering if this scroll hasnt outlived its usefullness and is in danger of igniting??
I don't think that's necessary right now. Since both Wooly and myself made it clear that my intention wasn't to ignite further debate, the negative comments seemed to have dropped off.
Rest assured, however, that I will be keeping an eye on any further developments.
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2010 : 12:32:36
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| Sad news that Paul S. Kemp has ended with Wotc and i put the blame on WotC and only on them....they continue the destruction with their desicions!!! |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 26 Jan 2010 : 13:46:58
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Originally posted by BARDOBARBAROS
Sad news that Paul S. Kemp has ended with Wotc and i put the blame on WotC and only on them....they continue the destruction with their desicions!!!
I understand your feelings, but Paul pretty much said it was mutual. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 26 Jan 2010 : 23:30:39
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| Indeed. We don't know any of the details of what happened, so it's quite unfair to go casting blame on anyone. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 14:59:28
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It could have even been something asked of Paul that most fans would have liked, but he didn't feel right with....who knows......
But it wouldn't be to far of a stretch to imagine someone requesting Cale be brought back because of his popularity and also easy to see Paul politley declining....we just don't know what the disagreement was |
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Eye of Horus-Re
Acolyte
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Posted - 05 Mar 2010 : 20:55:37
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
I too like 4e as a game system.
The regrets are, for me, the extreme jump in time with so many wonderful stories left untold. It has nothing to do with the game system any longer.
I too am sad to see Mr Kemp moving on. Good luck to you sir.
Dalor, I think what you said here is really what it comes down to for me. I have never played 4e. But the discontinuation of our favorite stories and characters is what hurts the most. I am still a little behind in my FR novels. (a little) Is there a list of the novels here with a timeline attached? I think that would be a wonderful thing. But I understand that would require a lot of work. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Mar 2010 : 21:30:34
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Originally posted by Eye of Hores-Re
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden
I too like 4e as a game system.
The regrets are, for me, the extreme jump in time with so many wonderful stories left untold. It has nothing to do with the game system any longer.
I too am sad to see Mr Kemp moving on. Good luck to you sir.
Dalor, I think what you said here is really what it comes down to for me. I have never played 4e. But the discontinuation of our favorite stories and characters is what hurts the most. I am still a little behind in my FR novels. (a little) Is there a list of the novels here with a timeline attached? I think that would be a wonderful thing. But I understand that would require a lot of work.
Then you should be pleased to hear the the Book is back on and Paul is once again with WOTC! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Paul S. Kemp has ended his relationship with WotC
