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Marquant Volker
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Greece
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 Posted - 29 Sep 2009 : 12:21:00
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I got myself wondering last night, about food in the Realms, not the usual potato-soup that a commoner could get for a couple of coppers but elegant,exotic or traditional dishes.
I use Coffee in my realms as an import from the far Maztica, or Camel meat from exotic Calimshan served with exotic fruits. Those are my "Waterdeep's latest trend" dishes, (in 1 year or less this have to change)
Cormyrean sausages are the best (in my realms) because of the landscape and the temperature and the number of cows instead of Rothe.
(If you have any Homebrew or Canon dishes feel free to post them)
The most intriguing thing is more exotic dishes. Is it possible for a Master chef to cook Basilisk stakes for the rich and powerful? or Stirge soup? or Wyvern chops?
I would not reccoment cooking anything humanoid because it looks weird and cannibalistick (spelling?).
Im not talking WoW style here, i dont like something as :
Wyvern Chop: Cook DC 20 Benefit: +X to X Skill or stat for X time
Its just for flavour, Potato-soup is good but sometimes you need something more...exotic 
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 29 Sep 2009 : 12:39:15
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| Turami cooking is quite exotic, the guest dish is a skull full of snails, considered a delicacy and a greeting gift. Snails are roasted on bamboo skewers and they dip them in garlic butter. Their normal food are nut breads, cheese, very strong wines, meat is highly prized, particularly pheasants, ducks killed by an arrow or squirrels among the poor, slain by a sling. |
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Sep 2009 : 12:48:01
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Originally posted by Marquant Volker
I got myself wondering last night, about food in the Realms, not the usual potato-soup that a commoner could get for a couple of coppers but elegant,exotic or traditional dishes.
I've always thought of the more traditional types of cooking for The Heartlands like Roasted Wild Boar and Spit roasted coneys etc but for a more cosmopolitan feel for say Waterdeep or the court of Cormyr you could do something like this:
Pork Tender Lion in a Masala and Morrel sauce
translation
Wild Boar Tender Loin in a Sherry and Wild Underdark Mushroom Sauce.
Cut Tender Loin into medalions and seal in saute pan.
remove and letmeat rest
finely chop small onion / chalotte and saute withwild Underdark mushrooms.
remove from pan.
De-glaze pan with Dry Sherry.
Add demi glace (veal stock reduction)
reduce
add double cream
reduce
return loin and mushrooms and onion to pan to finish
add a nob of butter to finish sauce.
serve with wild rice or saute potatoes.
serve with good wine Amninian Red(?)
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for a dish from Icewind Dale.
Baked Knucklehead Trout
Gut and Clen one Knucklehead Trout
Stuff trout cavity with fragrant herbs and citrus fruit slices.
Wrap trout in very thinly sliced ham / bacon (parma) and bake in oven.
serve with boiled potatoes.
as you can see nearly any real world food can be changed to realmsian food, and with a little imagination you could use more exotic food stuffs.
In Silver Shadows by EC a character was frying underdark mushrooms I seem to recall.
the best source for canon would be the many novels out there.
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Sep 2009 : 13:20:26
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Originally posted by Marquant Volker
(If you have any Homebrew or Canon dishes feel free to post them)
The most intriguing thing is more exotic dishes. Is it possible for a Master chef to cook Basilisk stakes for the rich and powerful?
You could take a recipe for alligator and swop the meat for basilisk, I imagine it would taste simular!
or if you really want to be different then why not try Eggs Benedict with Wyvern Eggs! Though they might be a bit big.
or you could "candy" new born spiders from Spider Haunt Woods!
Using a sugar syrup solution, though best not serve this to any Drow.....
Fore Rib of Rothe
not to forget Otik's Fried potatoes.... oops sorry wrong setting (DL)
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Marquant Volker
Learned Scribe
Greece
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Posted - 29 Sep 2009 : 13:25:01
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It was the Gnome artificer, who was frying Screamer mushroom from Underdark, in a way it was a brutal scene :-P (not sure i he wanted to eat them or use them for his tinkering)
Great posts everybody, i intend to use them in my game, if i have a chance!
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Edited by - Marquant Volker on 29 Sep 2009 13:25:58 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 29 Sep 2009 : 15:01:46
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Originally posted by Marquant Volker
It was the Gnome artificer, who was frying Screamer mushroom from Underdark, in a way it was a brutal scene :-P (not sure i he wanted to eat them or use them for his tinkering)
Pretty sure he was human, not a gnome. I recall specifically that he was from Lantan. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 29 Sep 2009 : 15:58:45
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Originally posted by Delzounblood
not to forget Otik's Fried potatoes.... oops sorry wrong setting (DL)
There's actually a recipe for them, printed in the DL material -- specifically, Leaves from the Inn of the Last Home. In fact, the "Tika's Cookbook" section offers plenty of select dishes which I imagine, with only slight variations, could also feature in the Realms as well.
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
578 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2009 : 16:37:13
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Has there been an official Realms cookbook?
Maybe a "Volo eats round the Realms" or somthing?
If not it could make a good home-brew project for some one with a bit of free time and a liking for food.
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bladeinAmn
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 30 Sep 2009 : 20:16:42
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I've recently acquired and been reading Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast, and Volo has a few recipes in there.
I juss go w/savoury Earthly dishes throughout the world of Toril in my campaigns! But I think I'll one day peruse through one of my Monster Manuals, and see which monsters could possibly make a splendid meal in the City of Splendors, and in other less expensive places too!
I reckon eating the heart of a dragon is a mighty fine experience (re: early part of "Eyes of the Dragon" by Stephen King)!
Upon thinking on this topic, I'm thinking about the benefits that a wizard or would-be psionicists might partake of by eating an illithid, or if such a thing is beneficial at all! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 30 Sep 2009 : 21:23:26
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Originally posted by bladeinAmn
I've recently acquired and been reading Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast, and Volo has a few recipes in there.
There was at least one or two recipes in Volo's Guide to Waterdeep, as well.
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Originally posted by bladeinAmn
I juss go w/savoury Earthly dishes throughout the world of Toril in my campaigns! But I think I'll one day peruse through one of my Monster Manuals, and see which monsters could possibly make a splendid meal in the City of Splendors, and in other less expensive places too!
I reckon eating the heart of a dragon is a mighty fine experience (re: early part of "Eyes of the Dragon" by Stephen King)!
Upon thinking on this topic, I'm thinking about the benefits that a wizard or would-be psionicists might partake of by eating an illithid, or if such a thing is beneficial at all!
That's one of the only things I really miss from 2E... In 2E, all monster descriptions included a section on what uses various body parts had. It added a lot to the descriptions, I felt. With the monster descriptions in 3E, it was easy to get the impression that the only purpose of a monster was to be a temporary obstacle. What little I've seen of 4E follows that trend. |
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bladeinAmn
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 30 Sep 2009 : 22:22:10
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Very true Wooly. I primarily use my 2e MM, Compendiums and other 2e sources for my campaigns, and occasionally peruse my 3.5 MM when I can't find what I'm looking for in my 2e collection. I was also gifted the 4e FRCG and 4e MM, and found them lacking in description and spirit. I find the only things that they did better than the previous editions were the pictures!
(But that's going a bit off-topic, and continuing to do so in this particular thread would be akin to beating a no-more-animated-undead horse )
I don't think the 2e MM makers anticipated us gamers figuring out ways to have the monsters be eaten as high class meals in Waterdeep and such! At least I don't beleive they had it in the forefront of their minds! Ha! |
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Sep 2009 : 22:57:49
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Delzounblood
not to forget Otik's Fried potatoes.... oops sorry wrong setting (DL)
There's actually a recipe for them, printed in the DL material -- specifically, Leaves from the Inn of the Last Home. In fact, the "Tika's Cookbook" section offers plenty of select dishes which I imagine, with only slight variations, could also feature in the Realms as well.
During the short time I spent with DL, the apple & cinnamon pudding/dumpling thing became a favorite in my family, actually. (Can't remember the name off hand, might have been Gilthanas') |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 01 Oct 2009 : 00:44:02
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Originally posted by Arivia
During the short time I spent with DL, the apple & cinnamon pudding/dumpling thing became a favorite in my family, actually. (Can't remember the name off hand, might have been Gilthanas')
Yeah. As I recall, that was reprinted in one of the Lost Leaves tomes. And it's featured on the DLNexus, too.
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rjfras
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Posted - 02 Oct 2009 : 01:56:26
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| Ed has also mentioned various dishes from different parts of Faerun through out the years for Turmish, Calimshan, Tantras as well as snacks in the realms and many other food fare tidbits here and there in his So Saith Ed answers.. Also you can check the Delzemaeran Delicacies series under the Forgotten Realms archive section on WotC site. |
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Fizilbert
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 03 Oct 2009 : 12:26:29
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I seem to recall in some of the Dragon Magazines there was an occassional article which I believe was written by Ed that featured Elminster having a get together with various archmages from other worlds and they would share new spells. For the life of me I can't remember the name of the article, but in the article Elminster would be hosting the meeting and there would be food and drinks available for the other attendees and sometimes Ed went into detail on what was being offered, food wise.
While I dont run a pure FR campaign, but I do sample it heavily, I've always imagined the "fine dining" in my campaign to be similar to what would have been available in the middle ages but with some more exotic ingredients. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 03 Oct 2009 : 15:30:09
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The Wizards Three. One of my favorite series of articles. 
They normally just feasted on all of Ed's food, though, while he sweated his way thru the evening in a suit of armor. |
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Fizilbert
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Posted - 04 Oct 2009 : 00:58:05
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| That be the one. And now that you mention it I do remember that the meetings typically took place in Ed's home as they ate his food. So maybe that wont be much of a help here. Oh well. |
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Kuje
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Posted - 04 Oct 2009 : 06:13:42
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Aurora's Catalog has some dishes, etc.
Like, for example, she does have coffee from Maztica. :) |
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The Sage
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goatunit
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Posted - 17 Oct 2009 : 16:43:51
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| Don't forget about dishes that are common to us but would be extremely exotic to a Heartlander. Maize, oranges and various peppers from Maztica come to mind. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Ayrik
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Posted - 04 Dec 2010 : 17:57:22
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Halfling Shire chocolates are the best. The little buggers probably eat three supreme desserts with every meal.
Are we just talking about the sort of cooking humans would prefer? Or meat & potatoes (& beer & fungus) dwarven fare, fruity elven delights, modular gnomish food blocks, and orcish tartar? |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 08 Dec 2010 : 20:47:13
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| I came up with a drow version of clam chowder using rothe cream, mushrooms, clams, and a few underdark spices. Could also be made with scallops or rothe dumplings instead. I'll have to go back through my writing and see what others I have- I created several Underdark meals for one of my stories. Mushroom bread, rothe stew, stuffed mushrooms, and stuffed crabs, among others. Shark steaks and roast albatross were also favorites among my seafaring drow. |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 08 Dec 2010 : 21:31:59
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| I wonder if aquatic elves can even cook their food at all. Do they just eat sushi? |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Ayrik
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Posted - 08 Dec 2010 : 21:42:39
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Alystra Illianniis
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Ayrik
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Posted - 08 Dec 2010 : 22:17:38
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I'd thought about magic use, certainly possible, but a bit of a nuisance for cooking every meal every day. Only wizards and priests can prepare cooked food? They'd have to reach middle levels just to have three warm meals each day, unless they cook stuff in batches and eat it cold later.
Or they might actually use fire (and air), in the form of elemental stuff. Or set up a kitchen near a boiling magma pocket.
But - as with Heat Metal or any other magics - they'd have to have a tremendous resistance for heat (a container of boiling water will be surrounded by a lot of uncontained almost-boiling water) ... just consider how hot a not-submersed kitchen can get, at least a large/industrial one, and multiply by the thermal density of water. I did years of line/chef work, I assure ye 'tis quite warm indeed when things are busy. The cook's flesh can cook as easily as any other.
An underwater city "dry area" sort of concept is possible. But the problem then becomes poisoned air and smoke, lots of smoke. No matter how they go about it, the aquatics have to employ magic for every single meal they want to cook.
Preference for cooked food might be a purely human notion. Sushi and seaweed are nourishing enough. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 08 Dec 2010 : 22:46:57
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Don't have to tell ME that!! I spent three years working in a pizza place with two ovens going constantly, 450+ heat EACH, and NO AC!! In 100 degree Texas summer heat! (We did 120+ pie school orders in the mornings....)
I like the idea of cooking over a magma pocket- perhaps they have some permanent endure elements effect over it, with a special type of pot that cooks large amonts, and can be moved with a hook or something to take it off the heat. A swing-boom sort of contraption, so that once it's cooked, they don't have to worry about burning themselves trying to get it to the "table". I'd also imagine they eat lots of kelp and shellfish that don't require much- if any- cooking. Sea elf sea salads? |
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Ayrik
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Posted - 08 Dec 2010 : 23:13:07
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Permanent magic vessels which heat/cook their contents, or other permanent magic items for magma-pocket "BBQ" events/gatherings do seem logical. Elves are good at magic stuff, each of their communities or homes could have all sorts of little trinkets to serve cooking purposes, not unreasonable when you consider what sorts of appliances we use for cooking in our world. Better than casting spells to heat your food all the time, although maybe sometimes they like to go "camping" and rough it out eating soggy cold fish jerky.
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