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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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 Posted - 17 Jun 2009 : 09:14:07
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Rory
I dont know much about the original. Wasnt it animated?
Yes, it was a Rankin-Bass production.
Only the last part, Return of the King (and they also made the Hobbit), the original Lord of the Rings movie was made by Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Wizards, Fire and Ice) using a combination of rotoscoping and traditional animation. The Bakshi movie ended after Helms Deep as it became to long. A follow-up was planned, but never finished. The reason is unsure, the story that it flopped is wrong from what I have read. Maybe UA, who distributed the film, just didn't want to deal with Bakshi again, but I have never really seen a clear reason for dropping the project given.
Time to watch it again I think. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 01:48:41
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Originally posted by Jorkens
Only the last part, Return of the King (and they also made the Hobbit), the original Lord of the Rings movie was made by Ralph Bakshi (Fritz the Cat, Wizards, Fire and Ice) using a combination of rotoscoping and traditional animation.
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Calmar
Acolyte
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Posted - 24 Jun 2009 : 19:33:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So put a bunch of dark-skinned people on the screen. Say they're all a murderous bunch. Demonstrate this by showing them warring on each other for power. Show brother slaying brother and mother sacrificing child. And emphasize that only this one guy is different...
Not sure about that. Was someone offended by the fact that LotR's orcs and uruks were dark-skinned?
If I'm not mistaken in the books roughly everyone who is neither fair-skinned elf, nor fair-skinned man of the West is regarded inferior. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 24 Jun 2009 : 19:46:33
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Originally posted by Calmar
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So put a bunch of dark-skinned people on the screen. Say they're all a murderous bunch. Demonstrate this by showing them warring on each other for power. Show brother slaying brother and mother sacrificing child. And emphasize that only this one guy is different...
Not sure about that. Was someone offended by the fact that LotR's orcs and uruks were dark-skinned?
If I'm not mistaken in the books roughly everyone who is neither fair-skinned elf, nor fair-skinned man of the West is regarded inferior.
There was a little bit more than dark skin that set the orcs and Uruk-hai apart. Their skintone was a minor detail, compared to other aspects of their appearance. Plus, they weren't uniformly dark skinned.
Tolkien's orcs, as seen in the movies, were clearly non-human. For most people, elves are nearly human, just really pretty. And drow are not much more than elves with darker skin. Yeah, there are cultural and physiological differences, but in a movie, people are just going to see elves with dark skin and elves with light skin -- which is way too close to real world comparisons of those descended from Western Europeans and those descended from Africans. |
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