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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 26 Apr 2009 : 14:25:48
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how many copies worldwide do salvatores books sell compared to say the average realms novels.eg the dungeons series.i dont mean average as in quality of course. |
go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 26 Apr 2009 : 15:42:06
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Yeah, the only way to know would be to work at WotC.
Its probably a lot more as the Drizzt series is probably the most mainstream FR novels. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 26 Apr 2009 : 15:45:54
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Originally posted by Tyr
Yeah, the only way to know would be to work at WotC.
Its probably a lot more as the Drizzt series is probably the most mainstream FR novels.
I'd imagine that the numbers are available to shareholders. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Apr 2009 : 16:08:35
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No, I'm afraid they're not. Both Ed and I are shareholders of both Hasbro and WotC, and sales figures are NOT made available. Despite specific, pointed requests.
However, anyone with access to BookScan (which tracks around 65 percent or so of all total English-language North American, and reported from other countries to North American parent publishing companies; it's the computerized system that uses the UPC codes printed on books, and getting access to it is VERY expensive, in the form of annual fees) can ROUGHLY figure out sales, particularly when we're talking relative-to-each-other sales as opposed to absolute sales.
Remember, a "sale" can be reversed, later, when unsold books "sold" to bookstores are returned. That's why the Publishers Weekly annual sales figures for books aren't released until May of the following year, after the first fiscal quarter (during which returns can still be made on books "sold" in the previous year) is past.
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
517 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2009 : 23:44:31
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| surely ras must have an idea how many copies he sells.has he never said. |
go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
225 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2009 : 13:01:55
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Well he could possibly work it out from his checks if he gets a percentage per book, but unless they want to shout about sales the best you'll ever get will be a vague estimate.
Aye, shareholders only really get a report saying we made $x this year from this part of the company. |
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
517 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2009 : 22:23:53
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go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
225 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2009 : 08:58:32
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edappel
Learned Scribe
Brazil
211 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2009 : 20:34:43
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Well, nobody answered me at the book club topic... So, I'll ask here.
SPOILER!!! (Shadowrealm)
SPOILER!!!
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Anyone knows what Mask owed to Shar at ShadowRealm book?
And did you realize that Kesson Rel was infinetly weaker than the godly Rivalen, Cale and Riven? He should have three times their strength... I'm I wrong? |
--- Ed Appel
*** I'm a brazilian FR fan. So, feel free to correct my writing mistakes to improve my english. |
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edappel
Learned Scribe
Brazil
211 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2009 : 19:56:10
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Nobody is answering to me anymore! Am I so annoying?
Does the Realms has any non-capitalism realm? Like a socialist or anarquist village? (without gold coins, leaders, etc) |
--- Ed Appel
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edappel
Learned Scribe
Brazil
211 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2009 : 20:28:57
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Another one..
What happened to the anthology "The Best of RA Salvatore"? |
--- Ed Appel
*** I'm a brazilian FR fan. So, feel free to correct my writing mistakes to improve my english. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36968 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2009 : 22:45:13
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Originally posted by edappel
Nobody is answering to me anymore! Am I so annoying?
I've not read Shadowrealm, so I can't answer any questions on it. And of the Erevis Cale books I've read, I've only read each one once -- so I, for one, simply don't have any info to give on those books.
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Originally posted by edappel
Does the Realms has any non-capitalism realm? Like a socialist or anarquist village? (without gold coins, leaders, etc)
Nothing comes to mind, immediately... Though there are smaller groups (like small villages and I imagine some druids circles) where there simply isn't a need for a leader. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36968 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2009 : 22:52:39
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Originally posted by edappel
Another one..
What happened to the anthology "The Best of RA Salvatore"?
Considering that there's a Best of Elaine and a Best of Eddie (as the lovely Lady Hooded One calls it), it would make sense for there to be a Best of RAS. I believe such a book was planned for, but I don't know whatever happened to it. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2009 : 00:49:45
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Originally posted by edappel
Nobody is answering to me anymore! Am I so annoying?
That's maybe because only a few have read the book you're asking questions about. I know I haven't. So I can't even hazard a possible answer to your quesiton.
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Does the Realms has any non-capitalism realm? Like a socialist or anarquist village? (without gold coins, leaders, etc)
This sounds like a question for Ed. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2009 : 00:51:17
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Originally posted by edappel
Another one..
What happened to the anthology "The Best of RA Salvatore"?
As Wooly noted above, I do recall hearing something about a possible "Best of RAS" compilation. Maybe Wizards is holding out for some reason. Perhaps he's got something further to contribute before it's released.
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 05 May 2009 : 03:51:10
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Originally posted by edappel
Nobody is answering to me anymore! Am I so annoying?
Wouldn't say you are annoying, its just that sometimes people ask questions we can't answer because we don't know the answer, we've forgotten the answer, or we just haven't been interested in the material where we could find the answer, which leads back to we don't know the answer. :)
Confused yet? And how many times can I fit the word answer in this post.  |
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edappel
Learned Scribe
Brazil
211 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2009 : 14:48:03
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I forgot to put a " " after my "Am I so annoying?" question...
I know that you are patience guys that answer everything that you may know. That's why I enter here every day to check everything that you post.
Thanks for the last answers.. And let's go for the new ones.
I was reading GHotR, and checked that "Alaundo" and Candlekeep Compendium were quoted there.
So...
1st: Does Brian James got the name from here or "Alaundo" got the name from some character of The Realms?
2nd: At Page 6, Brian says that everything, except The Ancient History are canon knowledge. So, when he quotes Candlekeep Compendium (ex. Pg 6), you can interpret that Candlekeep Compendium are canon too. Am I wrong?
(I've read now that you, The Sage and Wooly, as some others members of this community are mentioned at the introduction... Congrats  ) |
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edappel
Learned Scribe
Brazil
211 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2009 : 20:27:24
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2009 : 20:56:57
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Originally posted by edappel
I forgot to put a "" after my "Am I so annoying?" question...
I know that you are patience guys that answer everything that you may know. That's why I enter here every day to check everything that you post.
Thanks for the last answers.. And let's go for the new ones.
I was reading GHotR, and checked that "Alaundo" and Candlekeep Compendium were quoted there.
So...
1st: Does Brian James got the name from here or "Alaundo" got the name from some character of The Realms?
2nd: At Page 6, Brian says that everything, except The Ancient History are canon knowledge. So, when he quotes Candlekeep Compendium (ex. Pg 6), you can interpret that Candlekeep Compendium are canon too. Am I wrong?
(I've read now that you, The Sage and Wooly, as some others members of this community are mentioned at the introduction... Congrats )
Alaundo is a NPC in the Realms but he's deceased but his skull is still floating around. :)
The Compendium's are NOT canon since they are fan material that we worked on.
And sometimes the forums does weird things, especially when Sage releases the imps. So, that might be why the active topics thingie isn't working.
Sage, Wooly, Rino, and I have had dedications and or our handles included in various novels and or sourcebooks. :) Plus this site has been mentioned in novels or WOTC web articles. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2009 : 00:47:13
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Originally posted by edappel
I forgot to put a "" after my "Am I so annoying?" question...
Hehe. You're not annoying Ed. Simply curious about the Realms and about Candlekeep. There's nothing wrong with any of that. So long as you've got the questions, we'll be happy to try and answer them.
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I know that you are patience guys that answer everything that you may know. That's why I enter here every day to check everything that you post.
Thanks for the last answers.. And let's go for the new ones.
No worries. And you're welcome. We're glad to help.
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I was reading GHotR, and checked that "Alaundo" and Candlekeep Compendium were quoted there.
So...
1st: Does Brian James got the name from here or "Alaundo" got the name from some character of The Realms?
Alaundo's an actual character from the Realmslore. And look to Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark on pg. 86 for more details about the 'Skull of Alaundo'.
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2nd: At Page 6, Brian says that everything, except The Ancient History are canon knowledge. So, when he quotes Candlekeep Compendium (ex. Pg 6), you can interpret that Candlekeep Compendium are canon too. Am I wrong?
Brian has said in the past, that he'd like to try and drop references to some of the material in the Compendiums into official Realmslore. Like references about the continent of Katashaka. 'Twas the unofficial name Brian James used for one of his articles in the Candlekeep Compendium, featuring lore about the dark continent located southwest of Faerūn. Since it survived editing, we've now learnt a little more about Katashaka in the Grand History of the Realms tome, where it has become canonised.
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(I've read now that you, The Sage and Wooly, as some others members of this community are mentioned at the introduction... Congrats )
What Kuje said. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2009 : 14:34:00
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Originally posted by Kuje
Sage, Wooly, Rino, and I have had dedications and or our handles included in various novels and or sourcebooks. :) Plus this site has been mentioned in novels or WOTC web articles.
Yes, that's always nice, isn't it. |
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D-brane
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
140 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2009 : 14:53:26
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Originally posted by edappel
(I've read now that you, The Sage and Wooly, as some others members of this community are mentioned at the introduction... Congrats )
Where are they mentioned in the Grand History book?
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edappel
Learned Scribe
Brazil
211 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2009 : 15:09:51
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Where are they mentioned in the Grand History book?
At the introduction... Well, at least at the .pdf file.
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Alaundo's an actual character from the Realmslore. And look to Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark on pg. 86 for more details about the 'Skull of Alaundo'.
But who created "Alaundo"? The same guy that created this site? Or did he get the name from the Realms?
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Sage, Wooly, Rino, and I have had dedications and or our handles included in various novels and or sourcebooks. :) Plus this site has been mentioned in novels or WOTC web articles.
Could you name some of this other books?
Thanks for everything again. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36968 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2009 : 16:13:58
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Originally posted by edappel
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Where are they mentioned in the Grand History book?
At the introduction... Well, at least at the .pdf file.
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Alaundo's an actual character from the Realmslore. And look to Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark on pg. 86 for more details about the 'Skull of Alaundo'.
But who created "Alaundo"? The same guy that created this site? Or did he get the name from the Realms?
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Sage, Wooly, Rino, and I have had dedications and or our handles included in various novels and or sourcebooks. :) Plus this site has been mentioned in novels or WOTC web articles.
Could you name some of this other books?
Thanks for everything again.
The name Alaundo is drawn from existing Realmslore. There's a quote by him on the first page of Cyclopedia of the Realms, from the Old Grey Box. So either Ed or Jeff Grubb -- likely Ed -- created the legendary Alaundo.
I myself (and Sage and Kuje and Big Al) were mentioned by name in the Acknowledgments page of Downshadow. And one of the web articles included a road -- Rupert's Way -- that Brian R James later confirmed was named after me. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 07 May 2009 : 17:03:50
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by edappel
But who created "Alaundo"? The same guy that created this site? Or did he get the name from the Realms?
The name Alaundo is drawn from existing Realmslore. There's a quote by him on the first page of Cyclopedia of the Realms, from the Old Grey Box. So either Ed or Jeff Grubb -- likely Ed -- created the legendary Alaundo.
Alaundo is an Ed creation.
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I myself (and Sage and Kuje and Big Al) were mentioned by name in the Acknowledgments page of Downshadow. And one of the web articles included a road -- Rupert's Way -- that Brian R James later confirmed was named after me.
And Kuje was referenced in the Grand History tome -- as Emperor Kujawa in the entries for -2487, -2300, and -1943.
Though I myself, have yet to receive an official nod in the Realmslore.  |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 May 2009 : 19:21:57
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Originally posted by edappel
Anyone knows what Mask owed to Shar at ShadowRealm book?
And did you realize that Kesson Rel was infinetly weaker than the godly Rivalen, Cale and Riven? He should have three times their strength... I'm I wrong?
SPOILER****
Mask owes Shar the part of the divinity, he supposedly stole from her. Plus he has to "pay" her back with "interest" on this portion of divinity.
So he gives back the stolen divinity plus additional divinty that he has accumulated over the time due to increased number of worshippers.
However some of the additional divinity that he has accumulated over time, he hides without Shar knowing and this is where Paul S. Kemp will enter with the Cycle of Night Trilogy.
Regarding Kesson's strength... it is dificult to measure. It is very likely that he actually was 3 times stronger than Cale, Riven and Rivalen in terms of powers granted purely by divine essence.
But bear in mind that Rivalen for instance has almost godly powers already before receiving his share of divine essence and Cale too. So if you take their abilities and powers and then add their share of divided divinity, then yes they are most likely more powerful than Kesson.
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edappel
Learned Scribe
Brazil
211 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2009 : 22:30:40
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SPOILER****
Skychrome.. But Kesson had more than a thousand years to increase his power... Well, nevermind, even so I got the idea that Cale, Riven and Rivalen had already some of the powers of their gods... It's logical. Thanks for enlighten me. |
--- Ed Appel
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 May 2009 : 22:41:57
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Originally posted by edappel
But Kesson had more than a thousand years to increase his power...
True, but divine power does not increase unless by gaining more worshippers which is not the case with Kesson Rel. His divine powers could not increase at all during thousands of years.
His magical abilities... well that's another story if he used the time in the Calyx to study.
However I totally agree that it is not very transparent why he appears sometimes strong and then not that much anymore. That's why this is a novel and not a rulebook. Writers need some freedom to not make everything transparent...
His weakest moment is in the endbattle, when hit with divine light. As Kesson is a creature of darkness, this light really affects his abilities. So it is credible that he suddenly doesn not appear that godly anymore. I guess.  |
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