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Gelcur
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Posted - 31 Mar 2009 :  14:30:13  Show Profile  Visit Gelcur's Homepage Send Gelcur a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
So I am thinking of introducing a Shadowmaster to my campaign as a villain.

Being the perfect shape shifter I have a bunch of cool ideas as to what to do with him. The issue that I am having is more rules/DMing. When it comes to a point where my PCs go to fight the Shadowmaster maybe he does not want to reveal his true nature can he take the form of say a 20th level fighter?

I know that they have the Shadowmaster as an entry in a Monsters Manual and then revised it for 3.5. But it seems intentionally vague as is the Shapechange spell.

I assume they can take the shape of a creature but not their knowledge. So if it decides to take the shape of a 20th level fighter he can look like it and have the physical attacks like him but wouldn't have all of that fighters feats/skills. But if say they were to copy a monk or a rogue would they gain their extraordinary abilities?

Any help sages are willing to give is welcomed.

The party come to a town befallen by hysteria

Rogue: So what's in the general store?
DM: What are you looking for?
Rogue: Whatevers in the store.
DM: Like what?
Rogue: Everything.
DM: There is a lot of stuff.
Rogue: Is there a cart outside?
DM: (rolls) Yes.
Rogue: We'll take it all, we may need it for the greater good.

Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 31 Mar 2009 :  15:25:27  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Per the Alternate Form ruling, he would retain his Supernatural and Spell-like abilities of his natural form and lose the Extraordinary abilities of his old form. He would not gain Supernatural and Spell-like abilities of his new form, but would gain Extraordinary abilities.

I'm not sure what the abilities of the Shadowmaster are, but I don't think you can change into a class, but only into a new race/species. If that race has monk-like abilities, you'd be able to use them, but you wouldn't be able to change into a race with monk class levels. Again, I don't know if the Shadowmaster is special on this or not. The only classes I know of that allow 'swapping' of class abilities are the Factotum and Chameleon.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 31 Mar 2009 :  16:02:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I'd not allow shapechanging to include classes.

But you could be evil, and say this malaugrym spent enough time posing as a fighter to pick up the class skills. It would up the CR, though.

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