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Penknight
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 Posted - 29 Mar 2009 : 05:04:07
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
As per Rich Baker, AO is more or less being ignored in 4E.
Really? I didn't know that "good storytelling and lore" was actually AO!!   |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 29 Mar 2009 : 17:26:08
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
As per Rich Baker, AO is more or less being ignored in 4E.
Amusing. They created him, and now they have no idea what to do with him, so they just shuffle him of to a corner and pray people don't ask inconvenient questions... |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Mar 2009 : 18:48:33
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why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 30 Mar 2009 : 15:47:31
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
As per Rich Baker, AO is more or less being ignored in 4E.
Amusing. They created him, and now they have no idea what to do with him, so they just shuffle him of to a corner and pray people don't ask inconvenient questions...
Well to be fair; there's not that many people at WOTC that were around when AO was introduced. And it is one of the better decisions they have done lately, as the whole AO thing was a problem from the start. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 30 Mar 2009 : 17:24:19
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Originally posted by Jorkens
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
As per Rich Baker, AO is more or less being ignored in 4E.
Amusing. They created him, and now they have no idea what to do with him, so they just shuffle him of to a corner and pray people don't ask inconvenient questions...
Well to be fair; there's not that many people at WOTC that were around when AO was introduced. And it is one of the better decisions they have done lately, as the whole AO thing was a problem from the start.
I am not of the opinion that prior lore should be ignored if it was problematic. Personally, I don't see how Ao was a problem, anyway. |
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Aerik DeVallo
Seeker
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Posted - 30 Mar 2009 : 22:44:00
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| Me either, Wooly. He's the overgod, plain and simple. |
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Ghost King
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Mar 2009 : 22:57:49
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| I actually liked the idea of Ao, but I never played the Realms prior to the ToT so I may not have the same perspective as someone that did before the change over. Anyways, Ao isn't really a huge hurtle, he mostly is uncaring of what happens on Toril as long as everyone plays by the rules. However, even he apparently is powerless against WotC's powers. Perhaps that is who he was talking to and eluded to answering to superiors above him? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 Mar 2009 : 23:16:38
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I am not of the opinion that prior lore should be ignored if it was problematic. Personally, I don't see how Ao was a problem, anyway.
He's problematic because if he's around, many of the new changes make even less sense (ie. Shar "blocking" the ascension of a new deity of magic). |
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Aerik DeVallo
Seeker
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Posted - 30 Mar 2009 : 23:24:37
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| I guess that makes sense as well, Rin. |
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 31 Mar 2009 : 04:34:54
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Actually when you think about it maybe AO did get involved a little. When Shar blocked the new diety of magic from ascending in an effort to get control over the weave(is this right?) and she wasn't able to maybe it was Ao who stopped her(just a theory). IMO if Shar would have shared the weave with Selune(Since it was theirs to begin with) then maybe it would have gone smoothly. The weave is still around right? So maybe Ao is simply waiting for a deity thats worthy to resume control.
This is only a theory as i have heard only snippets of whether the weave is still around or not. So forgive me if theres lack of "canon" info in the above section |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 31 Mar 2009 : 06:09:19
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| No, the weave is gone. And there will be never again a deity which controlls magic, as WotC has explicitely stated. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 31 Mar 2009 : 07:53:57
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No, the weave is gone. And there will be never again a deity which controlls magic, as WotC has explicitely stated.
Unless some other people come to power at WOTC, and decide to change it. Stuff like that happens all the time. Hell, just look at Marvel comics. Stuff there that was supposed to be set in stone changes as soon as a new editor-in-chief is appointed. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 31 Mar 2009 : 17:24:50
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Originally posted by khorne
Unless some other people come to power at WOTC, and decide to change it. Stuff like that happens all the time.
My thoughts exactly (remember how Sembia was never going to be detailed). |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 31 Mar 2009 : 19:09:43
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Joey Q, we're looking at you. "Brand New Day" indeed!
People are taking bets on the probability that Spidey will get together with Mary Jane again as soon as Quesada is out the building.
I just have to make a quick note on this. I have no idea what Quesada is talking about when he says that they had to make Peter single again for young boys to like the comic. I started reading Spider-man when I was 12.
By that time he had been married longer than I had been alive. So a married Peter was actually the normal version for me, something Mr. Quesada doesn't seem to realize in his crusade to make all of Marvel-dom look exactly like it did when he was a kid. |
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