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Inaubryn
Acolyte
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 Posted - 26 Mar 2009 : 16:39:18
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| *nods to Ashe* Hey, let's all write us up an FR movie on the forums. Drizzt or no Drizzt. ;) |
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Lady Fellshot
Senior Scribe
USA
379 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2009 : 04:53:46
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I just had a stupid idea. What about a TV mini series? The Scifi channel, oops sorry... the Syfy channel seems like a likely canidate. It would certainly be a step up from their usual fare.
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bishopssix
Acolyte
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Posted - 05 Apr 2009 : 21:49:27
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| I don't see why everyone wants to hate on drizzt for being popular, it's not like RAS brainwashed us or anything.........right? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2009 : 00:38:35
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Well, that's not really my issue with RAS's works. And I don't hate Drizzt because he's popular. I dislike Drizzt because he's almost always the focus of RAS's books.
I find this distracting, especially since RAS has proven in the past, that he can write entertaining stories with interesting characters that are completely divorced from the events/situations surrounding the Companions of the Hall.
It's truly a shame that these characters have been often neglected in favour of telling stories about the famous dark elf. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3247 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2009 : 01:51:48
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| Ah, but to be fair, dear Sage, it's not always RAS' decision to write about Drizzt. I, for one, believe he had to push back to get the Sellswords trilogy out the door. And that was after Servant of the Shard proved itself on the bestseller's lists. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2009 : 14:09:04
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Originally posted by bishopssix
I don't see why everyone wants to hate on drizzt for being popular, it's not like RAS brainwashed us or anything.........right?
I don't care much about Drizzt one way or the other, but I am not all that enamoured with Salvatores take on the Realms. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2009 : 14:29:42
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| As has been proven time and time again, fame and popularity, be it a person (movie celebrity), a fictional character (Drizzt) or a popular game (WoW), it always comes with a price. |
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Stranjer
Acolyte
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Posted - 28 Apr 2009 : 07:16:38
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| You know, after seeing the graphic novels turn out extremely mediocre, the "Official" Twinkle and Icingdeath replicas look almost identical(and most will say the script is dark elven which makes no sense in either, and apparently icingdeath was made in zakhara and enchanted by a Netherese, which makes any elven somewhat dumb), and the Reader's Guide to Drizzt fail really badly(still bought it, it did have some nice pictures aside from the reprints of various DnD sourcebooks pics being thrown in for minor characters, even if they made no friggin sense, like Maya, Triel(WTF, seriously?), and Jaka, as well as Gromph distincly having no robe...), I'm really not sure I want a Drizzt movie. I do really enjoy RAS's books, but it seems everything he endorses, even though he always says what a good job they did, is absolute crap. |
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Eye of Horus-Re
Acolyte
USA
36 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2009 : 18:59:32
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| I dont know if it would be a good idea making a Realms movie with new, unfamous heroes. I am sure I would like it, but it would probably not draw crowds. And if they dont make the money, then they dont make any more movies :( Also, dont think Hugh Jackman would be a good Entreri. I think he is too muscular. I picture Artemis being more wirery and dextrous. I think I could pull it off well, but thats my pipe dream.... |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
225 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2009 : 19:35:08
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nah, he's a great actor but he's probably a bit old for entreri, unless its set during the period where he know's he getting older and slower but Drizzt isn't.
You'll probably be wanting someone around the characters age, like Christian Bale, if you're going feature film.
imo it'd probably work better as a tv series |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36874 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2009 : 19:43:06
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Originally posted by Eye of Hores-Re
I dont know if it would be a good idea making a Realms movie with new, unfamous heroes. I am sure I would like it, but it would probably not draw crowds. And if they dont make the money, then they dont make any more movies :( Also, dont think Hugh Jackman would be a good Entreri. I think he is too muscular. I picture Artemis being more wirery and dextrous. I think I could pull it off well, but thats my pipe dream....
A Realms movie isn't guaranteed to draw crowds, period. Role-players are a small subset of the movie-going populace, and Realms fans are a small subset of that small subset. If the D&D movie couldn't draw crowds, how is something that only appeals to a small portion of D&D players going to draw crowds?
And as for using new characters... Why not? We've had hundreds of new stories set in the Realms, and there will undoubtedly be hundreds more (assuming WotC doesn't tank). Every single Realms character, no matter how big they are now, was once a totally new, unknown person. |
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 28 Apr 2009 : 20:13:37
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true, but another thing to consider with Realms films would be that they don't end up looking like LotR clones. You also have to remember that the D&D movie was quite bad, which is another reason why it didn't do so well.
a smaller scale film could work, but it'd need to be more than just a realms primer.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36874 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2009 : 21:23:04
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Originally posted by Tyr
true, but another thing to consider with Realms films would be that they don't end up looking like LotR clones. You also have to remember that the D&D movie was quite bad, which is another reason why it didn't do so well.
a smaller scale film could work, but it'd need to be more than just a realms primer.
And the fact that the D&D movie was bad is another point against the success of a Realms movie. If a movie for all D&D players stunk on ice, then why should a smaller subset of D&D players expect any better?
I'm not saying that I think a Realms movie is a bad idea, or that it would draw vacuum. I'm just saying that A) it's not a guaranteed success, no matter what the plot, and B) it would be better to do something new and fresh rather than spin an existing tale into yet another format. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3247 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2009 : 21:47:03
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Okay, which was worse? The Dungeons & Dragon Movie, or it's sequel?
On the pro side, the first had some 'named' stars (Jeremy Irons, Thora Birch) and an actual budget. On the down side, it had some 'named stars' that should never have been in a D&D movie (Marlon Wayans, Jeremy Irons and <sigh> Tom Baker as a 'old' elf) and it didn't use it's budget wisely. Sure, the beholder was cool, but it didn't *do* anything!
The second had people in it that understood the game and setting more and Bruce Payne returning as Damodar was pretty cool. The down side was it was a Sci-Fi Channel movie. I think that is a brand new category of movie. Somewhere waaaay below 'B' movie status. I always thought it was ironic when Sci-Fi picked up MST3k and used them to show their movies...
Edit: I suppose, I should explain how this ties into the topic... I'd rather see a 'good' movie made than one that does well at the box office. I'm a fan of cheese (Buckaroo Banzai is the greatest movie ever made), but if a limited budget means that you can't crawl out of the Sci-Fi production quality, then hold off and save up until you can. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Apr 2009 : 23:21:41
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Any screenwriter worth his salt writes this way. Any screenplay that makes it to an agent, producer, or studio would be thrown out if it were not written in this fashion.
That says something about stories, but also about Hollywood formula.
Cinematic and fictional structure has been discussed entertainingly of late on both Robin Laws's and Todd Alcott's blogs. Of course, recognizing such patterns in other people's stories isn't the same as consciously writing according to the same structure, which is quite another thing from imposing it on someone else's material. Or take the gap between Joseph Campbell's monomyth writings and the crass formula misinterpreted from them by Disney and other screenwriters.
The Realms, in particular, isn't neatly divisible into discrete stories that begin and end and all's done. It has a Weave, instead, and I think short stories work a lot more naturally in it than novels (at least the to-the-point 320-page ones TSR and Wizards like) do. |
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is drizzt film gonna happen
