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swifty
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Posted - 06 Mar 2009 :  23:01:22  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
read on youtube that dreamworks are behind new film with wesley snipes.is it s**t or some truth in it.

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search on it outside of youtube and see.
treat Youtube like wikipedia.

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Well , Mr Snipes is currently in jail for Tax Fraud isn't he?

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quote:
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Well , Mr Snipes is currently in jail for Tax Fraud isn't he?




hehe yes and illegally mind you since anybody else would have gotten probation for that and the judge did it only to make an example or something out of him which if proven and the judge gets de-benched and maybe de-barred....

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And before we continue, let's try to keep the real-life chatter about taxes and such to a minimum, eh?

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Markustay
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Can we say Drizzt is in jail for tax-evasion?

After all... he hasn't paid ANY in Menzoberranzan in years, and those Drow Justicars are probably gonna come after him sooner or alter.

You know what they say... it's one of the three 'un-avoidables' in life.

On a more serrious note...
Although I think Mr.Snipes would be the best possible choice for Drizzt, I think he may just bring too much 'Blade' to the part, if you catch my drift. If he plays it the same - and he probably will (they are basically the same character-type) - it may just ruin the entire film.

I think a group of 'nobodys' would work best - no big names to steal the show, and its more immersive that way.

Also, better for the budget - I'd rather have them spend millions on great CGI, NOT actors.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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I read the same thing here! And that post is only four years old...

I don't think this is going to happen anytime soon. Harry Potter and LotR notwithstanding, the studios have gotten burned too recently with Eragon, In the Name of the King and Narnia's not-incredible numbers to justify the expense it would take to pull off.

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sfdragon
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well yes they could STILL do it, but not do it live action, and along with the dragonlance movie, have it CGI.


but then if they did it that way, they better hire RAS to write it.....

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Ashe Ravenheart
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As much as I love the original Dragonlance novels and Margaret & Tracy, the animated Dragonlance movie that came out a few years ago felt like a step backwards from the old D&D cartoon.

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swifty
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if there was to be a drizzt film id like to see luke goss play him after seein him in hellboy 2.

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khorne
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

I read the same thing here! And that post is only four years old...

I don't think this is going to happen anytime soon. Harry Potter and LotR notwithstanding, the studios have gotten burned too recently with Eragon, In the Name of the King and Narnia's not-incredible numbers to justify the expense it would take to pull off.

I don't know about Narnia, but Eragon failed because they took out the few things that made the original book decent, and In the Name of the King crashed because Uwe Boll was involved. If they avoid those mistakes a movie could probably be made.

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Drew
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In the name of the King is a uwe boll film and thus does not count >:(

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Ashe Ravenheart
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By Narnia, I meant Prince Caspian falling a little short of the moneymakers hopes and dreams.

And, I agree, Uwe Boll sucks the big one, however the studios keep giving him money to make this stuff and he does turn a profit (mostly by being extremely cheap on the production side).

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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

As much as I love the original Dragonlance novels and Margaret & Tracy, the animated Dragonlance movie that came out a few years ago felt like a step backwards from the old D&D cartoon.


The Dragonlance animated movie was pathetic in a hilarious way. They would need to do much better animation if they wanted to make a serious story that was anything other than comedic.
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The Sage
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Okay folks, we're wildly off-topic. Let's bring it back to the original discussion, eh?

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Okay folks, we're wildly off-topic. Let's bring it back to the original discussion, eh?




Awww...come on Sage I was just ready to say how dreamy it would be if Orlando Bloom wasDrizzt


And on topic, I doubt it happens. There are to many PC pitfalls for it, with "dark" elves are bad and blond haired "light" elves are good.

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Starsinger
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quote:
Originally posted by swifty

if there was to be a drizzt film id like to see luke goss play him after seein him in hellboy 2.



I agree with swifty. If they ever do bring out a Drizzt film, Luke goss would be excellent. Throughout the film I kept thinking of him playing Drizzt. He had the whole tortured-soul thing going on. But I doubt there will be a film anytime soon :-(
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If there is an FR film at all, it will be a Drizzt feature. After all, Wizbro just finished making more room in Faerun for Drizzt because he wasn't hogging the spotlight enough. I'd enjoy a Drizzt movie, as long as I got to see him chopped up like the Black Knight at the end of it all.

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There's a thread over at WotC right now discussing giving Drizzt TWO artifact Scimitars... because he simply isn't uber enough already.

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Arion Elenim
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Salvatore said in one of his podcast interviews on rasalvatore.com that it was awfully tempting to place a copy of Homeland on Spielberg's desk...


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-If WotC was to produce a Drizz't Movie, I would take 2 ONE FOOT LONG STITCHING NEEDLES AND STICK THEM THROUGH MY EYES! Thank god Drizz't is dead in my world, Wulfgar crushed his skull for messing with his girl.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

-If WotC was to produce a Drizz't Movie, I would take 2 ONE FOOT LONG STITCHING NEEDLES AND STICK THEM THROUGH MY EYES! Thank god Drizz't is dead in my world, Wulfgar crushed his skull for messing with his girl.

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That is so mean

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I think that Drizzt worked well as someone who really doesn't have much influence on the world, but facilitates a good story. I did notice before that he has very little impact on the Forgotten Realms outside of the very northly parts of it, but I don't think he needs more of an impact than that. But I suppose WotC thinks he does need a greater impact because his books sell more. If they make a Drizzt movie, which I hope they don't, I hope they use one of the earlier storylines, either IWD trilogy or his origin story.
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I agree....no name actors who get their big break with such a film is the way to go.

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I agree....no name actors who get their big break with such a film is the way to go.

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quote:
Originally posted by ranger_of_the_unicorn_run

I think that Drizzt worked well as someone who really doesn't have much influence on the world, but facilitates a good story. I did notice before that he has very little impact on the Forgotten Realms outside of the very northly parts of it, but I don't think he needs more of an impact than that. But I suppose WotC thinks he does need a greater impact because his books sell more. (bold added)

I hear complaints about Drizzt/RAS all the time because of some misunderstandings about overinflated perceptions of the D-man's "influence" or "impact" on the Realms.

But RAS has readily admitted, both in the prose itself, and in interviews in the "The Legend of Drizzt" editions, that Drizzt is not an influential/impactful character on the Realms as a whole. He was never meant to be. It's like attacking a Prius for not being able to go off-road, or dogging a Hummer for poor fuel economy.

Drizzt sells because Drizzt makes for good adventure stories--period. He's mostly fun, and at times a bit melodramatic. That makes for good, popular stories. There's no need to go conflating that with "influence" or "impact" or "meaning" or "significance" or any other high-minded terminology.

If a Drizzt movie is/Drizzt movies are made, it will be because someone can convince Hollywood that it/they will sell. It won't be because of any supposed influence, impact, etc. It will be because of dollar signs.

That, and maybe an outcry from us fanboys...

Which Hollywood would probably equate to the same thing.

My main worry is that they might bastardize and "improve" the story like they did with the Transformers movie, instead of staying faithful to the source material. I don't just want any old action flick with the "Drizzt" name beguilingly and shamelessly superimposed thereon--I want a true-to-form Drizzt action blockbuster (regardless of whatever name they eventually slap on it).

Drizzt stories don't really mess with our Realms.

And I don't want Hollywood to mess with our Realms or our Drizzt. If they make a movie, it better be accurate and genuine.

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quote:
Originally posted by BEAST

quote:
Originally posted by ranger_of_the_unicorn_run

I think that Drizzt worked well as someone who really doesn't have much influence on the world, but facilitates a good story. I did notice before that he has very little impact on the Forgotten Realms outside of the very northly parts of it, but I don't think he needs more of an impact than that. But I suppose WotC thinks he does need a greater impact because his books sell more. (bold added)

I hear complaints about Drizzt/RAS all the time because of some misunderstandings about overinflated perceptions of the D-man's "influence" or "impact" on the Realms.

But RAS has readily admitted, both in the prose itself, and in interviews in the "The Legend of Drizzt" editions, that Drizzt is not an influential/impactful character on the Realms as a whole. He was never meant to be. It's like attacking a Prius for not being able to go off-road, or dogging a Hummer for poor fuel economy.

Drizzt sells because Drizzt makes for good adventure stories--period. He's mostly fun, and at times a bit melodramatic. That makes for good, popular stories. There's no need to go conflating that with "influence" or "impact" or "meaning" or "significance" or any other high-minded terminology.

If a Drizzt movie is/Drizzt movies are made, it will be because someone can convince Hollywood that it/they will sell. It won't be because of any supposed influence, impact, etc. It will be because of dollar signs.

That, and maybe an outcry from us fanboys...

Which Hollywood would probably equate to the same thing.

My main worry is that they might bastardize and "improve" the story like they did with the Transformers movie, instead of staying faithful to the source material. I don't just want any old action flick with the "Drizzt" name beguilingly and shamelessly superimposed thereon--I want a true-to-form Drizzt action blockbuster (regardless of whatever name they eventually slap on it).

Drizzt stories don't really mess with our Realms.

And I don't want Hollywood to mess with our Realms or our Drizzt. If they make a movie, it better be accurate and genuine.



This is part of what I love about Drizzt. No reshaping of the planet to his will, no need to explain why he doesn't just obliterate all the bad guys ever. He's a ranger. A badass ranger, but let's face it...a ranger - a creature trying to get by and protect what he loves, not play with the cosmos.

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Simple yet efficient. It's what realms stories should mostly be. The plethora of RSEs that led to the Spellplague was due to many stories not following the Drizzt formula.

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I will grant that Arion and Alisttair make a very good point. My biggest problem with the character is simply overexposure and overhype (imho). Tangent (sorry) re: Alisttair: Warning: Rant building: It's interesting to me that the "problems" with the Realms all started with giving the players what they had asked for: stats for the uber-NPCs... and now suddenly, because they have stats, they're facing an endless series of RSEs in the novels and ruining the setting for people who can't leave them out of their games, and so must all be euthanized for the good of the setting. If anybody can find the logic in that, you've just found the reason why Drizzt *should* in fact have been redeemed. I treat all of my major Realms NPCs, both canon and my own creations, like Larloch; the only stats any high-level NPC should ever have in print are race, gender, class(es) and *minimum* level(s), which should always be sufficient to wipe the PCs from the face of Faerun. If the players want to take on a notable NPC, they should always know that it's their funeral. I allow for multiple classes there because I will not allow my Realms to go 4th into that good light. Ever. [/rant]

Edit: To get us back on topic: I agree with BEAST; I don't want to see a Drizzt movie if it's going to be "Blade with pointy ears". If anyone has any ideas for a good actor choice *apart from Orlando Bloom* I'm interested in hearing who and why.

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quote:
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This is part of what I love about Drizzt. No reshaping of the planet to his will, no need to explain why he doesn't just obliterate all the bad guys ever. He's a ranger. A badass ranger, but let's face it...a ranger - a creature trying to get by and protect what he loves, not play with the cosmos.


Same here. Drizzt has always been a great character without being a walking RSE. He is a great example of what was so great about the 2e novels. I'm a little bit worried that with 4e, they're going to start forcing him to have a greater impact on the Realms, though, and that would probably ruin the character for me.
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quote:
Originally posted by ranger_of_the_unicorn_run

quote:
Originally posted by Arion Elenim


This is part of what I love about Drizzt. No reshaping of the planet to his will, no need to explain why he doesn't just obliterate all the bad guys ever. He's a ranger. A badass ranger, but let's face it...a ranger - a creature trying to get by and protect what he loves, not play with the cosmos.


Same here. Drizzt has always been a great character without being a walking RSE. He is a great example of what was so great about the 2e novels. I'm a little bit worried that with 4e, they're going to start forcing him to have a greater impact on the Realms, though, and that would probably ruin the character for me.



I hope after Ghost King the next realms novel by RAS will finally be the Zaknafein & Jarlaxle story.

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