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khorne
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  11:38:52  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I'm speaking about the famous seer, not our lovely supreme overlord on the forum.

I was checking the front page on candlekeep.com when I noticed this excerpt from a text by Alaundo:

"It has been given to me to see glimpses of the future, moments of the measureless time that lie ahead for this world of Toril, called by some the Forgotten Realms. I sit here among halls upon halls and chambers upon chambers crammed with books, books that capture something of our great past. All too often, folk want to know where the bones of great kings or legendary dragons lie...or more precisely where their treasure may be found, if the truth be told. There are a few questors however, whose eyes hold the light of wonder, and who want to know more of this vast, glorious, historied world..." - Alaundo of Candlekeep

Looks like he foresaw the mmo-ization of the realms and took a shot at it. As expected from the Prophet.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  12:15:20  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He even knows how to play 8E as well

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  13:10:09  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suppose we should have expected nothing less form someone who could be described as all-seeing.

And while I admire Big Al....not sure I have every thought of him as a Lovely supreme overlord!

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  17:13:29  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, Walker... itīs Alaundo that invited the Calishite Dancing Girls to the Keep... this is a lovely act.

Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P

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malchor7
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Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  17:25:57  Show Profile  Visit malchor7's Homepage Send malchor7 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by khorne

All too often, folk want to know where the bones of great kings or legendary dragons lie...or more precisely where their treasure may be found, if the truth be told.

That sounds less like a comment on any particular form of gaming and more like a truism of adventurers to me.

Wanting to be rewarded for risking life and limb is hardly limited to MMORPGs, but I think is the case in all RPGs, electronic or pen and paper. After all, even heroes have to eat.

In the eternal words of Mal Reynolds: "Let's be clear: I do the job ... I get paid." [snatch] "Go rule your little world."
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khorne
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Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  18:19:00  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by malchor7

quote:
Originally posted by khorne

All too often, folk want to know where the bones of great kings or legendary dragons lie...or more precisely where their treasure may be found, if the truth be told.

That sounds less like a comment on any particular form of gaming and more like a truism of adventurers to me.

Wanting to be rewarded for risking life and limb is hardly limited to MMORPGs, but I think is the case in all RPGs, electronic or pen and paper. After all, even heroes have to eat.

In the eternal words of Mal Reynolds: "Let's be clear: I do the job ... I get paid." [snatch] "Go rule your little world."


Well, after that he said: "There are a few questors however, whose eyes hold the light of wonder, and who want to know more of this vast, glorious, historied world". I see it as him referring to the difference between the "screw the backstory, I want to kill stuff" people, and those who are interested in more than mindless slaughter and looting.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  18:19:37  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

Hey, Walker... itīs Alaundo that invited the Calishite Dancing Girls to the Keep... this is a lovely act.



invited...cajoled...borrowed....purchased....such relative terms


But they are appreciated and I really enjoy their new "uniforms"

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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malchor7
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Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  18:29:05  Show Profile  Visit malchor7's Homepage Send malchor7 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
(And I don't want to start another pro/anti-4e debate--to each his or her own.)

quote:
Originally posted by khorne

Well, after that he said: "There are a few questors however, whose eyes hold the light of wonder, and who want to know more of this vast, glorious, historied world". I see it as him referring to the difference between the "screw the backstory, I want to kill stuff" people, and those who are interested in more than mindless slaughter and looting.

Not saying you're wrong, mind, but that seems to be an example of reading one's own bias into something. You don't like 4e, so you interpret this comment to be praising all the things that 4e is not. Just sounds like a stretch to me.

One could as easily say this is an indictment of 3e, and how a lot of its lore contradicts or completely ignores 2e stuff.

Also, the Realms has ALWAYS had its "blah, blah, blah--kill!" folk, regardless of edition. Just because all the 4e lore has not been (and might never be) officially filled in by WotC doesn't mean it's a lore-less setting. It just puts more of the onus on the Dungeon Master and gives him less to work with, should he be used to relying heavily on the canon.

Then again, the best prophecies come about through creative interpretation, and who knows? Alaundo IS a master sage (both of them)--he could be saying exactly what you think.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  18:50:08  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh. When Ed wrote those words, he wasn't thinking of ANY game edition. He was, as usual, commenting in human nature.
(Which is, of course, what all fiction is really about.)
love to all,
THO
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Brimstone
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Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  23:20:39  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Heh. When Ed wrote those words, he wasn't thinking of ANY game edition. He was, as usual, commenting in human nature.
(Which is, of course, what all fiction is really about.)
love to all,
THO


-True, so true.

BRIMSTONE

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep
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sfdragon
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Posted - 27 Feb 2009 :  09:55:00  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Heh. When Ed wrote those words, he wasn't thinking of ANY game edition. He was, as usual, commenting in human nature.
(Which is, of course, what all fiction is really about.)
love to all,
THO




but thats what they all say and do, and in the Ironic since , it ends up being a prophecy of sorts.

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Kiaransalyn
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Posted - 27 Feb 2009 :  17:19:40  Show Profile Send Kiaransalyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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bitter thorn
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Posted - 03 Mar 2009 :  23:54:38  Show Profile  Visit bitter thorn's Homepage Send bitter thorn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

Dancing girls?

Would some one like to share with the rest of the class??

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

Hey, Walker... itīs Alaundo that invited the Calishite Dancing Girls to the Keep... this is a lovely act.



invited...cajoled...borrowed....purchased....such relative terms


But they are appreciated and I really enjoy their new "uniforms"


"Nobody listens to the Ranger!"

Our groups are all sticking with 3.X classic Realms.
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Alisttair
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  12:10:41  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is it "Belly Dancing"?

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 04 Mar 2009 :  13:17:16  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bitter thorn

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

Dancing girls?

Would some one like to share with the rest of the class??

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

Hey, Walker... itīs Alaundo that invited the Calishite Dancing Girls to the Keep... this is a lovely act.



invited...cajoled...borrowed....purchased....such relative terms


But they are appreciated and I really enjoy their new "uniforms"





It's a perk that is hard earned by writing many scrolls...I have already said too much!

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Asgetrion
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Posted - 06 Mar 2009 :  02:32:03  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

And while I admire Big Al....not sure I have every thought of him as a Lovely supreme overlord!



His staff is surely to be feared...

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